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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:08 am

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In post 1332, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1316, Flavor Leaf wrote: can you give me a short list for everyone?
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Purplemango feels the best out of the 3 lurkers but all of them really, really need to start contributing.
Why do you have Gera below the lurkers? And why is purple the best out of the other 3 lurkers?
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:09 am

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In post 1335, Flavor Leaf wrote: I am leaning Kyouko + Hu Tao + Geraint, but i dont want to preassociate that deep just yet.
I'm thinking at this point the game is doomed. Mostly cause I'm not even sure who scum is at this point. But I'm thinking an Elim and vig should clear some things up I hope.
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:10 am

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In post 1320, Pavowski wrote: Help me out Flavor - you think Kyouko's tunnel on me today is ++scum, right?

But if CW is green, why does scum!Kyouko bother trying to case also-green me?

I won't say CW elimination was inevitable, but it wouldn't have taken a lot to get there
i keep thinking about this.

I'm not fully read to put CW as green, but scum are likely afraid of a vig shot. CW alive gives a good chance I was going to vig there instead. Even if CW scum, it makes sense if im going to vig scum, for it to be CW.

This is also a really good question, and doesn't really make sense from a scumPav, I think, because it defends the person hard pushing them.
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:10 am

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In post 1339, DragonEater70 wrote: I kinda thought the claim at E-3 was towny
Same. But then again I didn't see the scumread from the beginning for lap
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:11 am

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In post 1351, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1335, Flavor Leaf wrote: I am leaning Kyouko + Hu Tao + Geraint, but i dont want to preassociate that deep just yet.
I'm thinking at this point the game is doomed. Mostly cause I'm not even sure who scum is at this point. But I'm thinking an Elim and vig should clear some things up I hope.
why are you thinking this game is doomed? it's Day 2. You have a Day 3 no matter what. So it's only doomed if Day 2 and Day 3 fades are absolutely doomed. If my vig shot doesn't go off, I think that's an extra day? so we have 3 elims to get off + mass claim tomorrow.


I dont understand doom and gloom mentality here.
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:15 am

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If your vig shot goes off its 7 left. If it doesn't go off it's 8 left. Assuming 3 scum and we don't get scum today then I just assume the lurkers vote me and we lose.
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:15 am

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In post 1355, Hu Tao wrote: If your vig shot goes off its 7 left. If it doesn't go off it's 8 left. Assuming 3 scum and we don't get scum today then I just assume the lurkers vote me and we lose.
why would lurkers auto vote you?
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:16 am

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In post 1350, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1332, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1316, Flavor Leaf wrote: can you give me a short list for everyone?
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(but needs to Get Real or Get Dead)
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Pavowski


Purplemango feels the best out of the 3 lurkers but all of them really, really need to start contributing.
Why do you have Gera below the lurkers? And why is purple the best out of the other 3 lurkers?
Purplemango/Gera/Joyboy are the 3 lurkateers, and Purple's posts are the least shit out of them.
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:17 am

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i think the fact more people dont hop on Kyouko is scum indicative of Kyouko. Why would scum not want a town Kyouko misfade here?
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:18 am

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if I joined on Pavowski, that's a death sentence imo. But Kyouko gets skipped over time and time again.

When a Kyouko misfade continues the Pav/CW/HuTao/DE splits from earlier.

I just think all signs point into the right direction of Kyouko scum.
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:19 am

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In post 283, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 254, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: It'd be weirdly straightforward but it feels like it could just be {Laplacian, DE, ???}

Dragon feels like he wants anything
but
for the focus to be on Laplacian and Laplacian feels like he knows he's toast and is trying to Distance from DE before he goes down
This is wild because I feel like we see things completely different right now. I don't think dragon is that scummy ATM.
In post 290, Hu Tao wrote: Okay I need someone who scumreads lap to explain the lap scumread. Preferably Kyouko. I feel like I usually see eye to eye with her but this game, I'm not. I haven't seen her as scum yet so I'm a bit worried about that tbh.

this is actually very telling if you are town, Hu Tao.
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:19 am

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My thoughts are: Cw scumread me. If he's scum he just needs a town lurker to vote me. If he's town then scum just jumps on.

I'm assuming scum aren't 3 lurkers
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:20 am

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In post 1360, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 283, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 254, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: It'd be weirdly straightforward but it feels like it could just be {Laplacian, DE, ???}

Dragon feels like he wants anything
but
for the focus to be on Laplacian and Laplacian feels like he knows he's toast and is trying to Distance from DE before he goes down
This is wild because I feel like we see things completely different right now. I don't think dragon is that scummy ATM.
In post 290, Hu Tao wrote: Okay I need someone who scumreads lap to explain the lap scumread. Preferably Kyouko. I feel like I usually see eye to eye with her but this game, I'm not. I haven't seen her as scum yet so I'm a bit worried about that tbh.

this is actually very telling if you are town, Hu Tao.
Yeah. I'm not against the kyo vote since I did say she seemed different day 1
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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:20 am

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In post 1361, Hu Tao wrote: My thoughts are: Cw scumread me. If he's scum he just needs a town lurker to vote me. If he's town then scum just jumps on.

I'm assuming scum aren't 3 lurkers
you're worrying too much about the future and not enough about hitting scum today.
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:21 am

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Yeah. You're right. I guess I'm worried about worst case scenario which doesn't help.
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:02 pm

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In post 1358, Flavor Leaf wrote: i think the fact more people dont hop on Kyouko is scum indicative of Kyouko. Why would scum not want a town Kyouko misfade here?
This one was thinking about it but got busy. The last few posts were pretty... yuck for me, even without my TBD ISO dive.
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:40 pm

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Votecount 2.3

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).


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cw357 (3)
- cw357, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao
geraintm (1)
- Joyboy
Pavowski (1)
- ssbm_Kyouko
ssbm_Kyouko (2)
- Flavor Leaf, DragonEater70

Not Voting (4)
- geraintm, Pavowski, Purplemango


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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:47 pm

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scum is dragon/hpe/hu tao/kyouku all scum is in these for
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:51 pm

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In post 1367, cw357 wrote: scum is dragon/hpe/hu tao/kyouku all scum is in these for
I could see 2. I’d be surprised if 3, and not one in the lurker 3 simply by way of how the game momentum has gone.

Could you join Kyouko if you think they are scum?
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:51 pm

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It’s not impossible as 3 by any means, though. Definitely could be
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:01 pm

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If Pav, HPE, and CW are all town, Joyboy is scum.
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:02 pm

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Kyouko just overall best fade based on scum possibility, actual cases, and worst case scenario, the flip shows they were town pushing on Lap/Pav.
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:23 pm

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Well are we sheeping conftown or what
In post 1371, Flavor Leaf wrote: Kyouko just overall best fade based on scum possibility, actual cases, and worst case scenario, the flip shows they were town pushing on Lap/Pav.
Let's wagon this and see if the lurkers wake up

VOTE: Kyouko
(I may or may not have been high when I typed this.)
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:24 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:24 pm

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Actually I'll just take it to e-2 VOTE: Kyouko

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