Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Gamma Emerald]

flavor

VC 2.10

Votecount 2.10

SirCakez (4): Roden, Flavor Leaf, Thomith, AnimatedWiz
Hu Tao (1): Bingle
Naerys (1): Celebloki
RCEnigma (1): Naerys

Not voting (4): RCEnigma, Dunnstral, SirCakez, Hu Tao

It takes 6 votes to eliminate someone.

Deadline:

Currently frozen at 36 hours

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Combined mod ISO: here.

[Roden]

Why are you clenching your fists and stomping your feet here? You've barely been around. Half the time I see your posts, you're promising to give more content later, but then when you do show up your posts show so little investment in the game. Like I'd understand being upset if you just randomly got flash wagon'd after putting in effort to solve for a month, but you've

been

getting sussed out for awhile now.

I don't think this is an accurate take on my play this game at all. I feel I have been pretty invested especially later today because I'm actually developing some reads I feel good about. I hate how you're trying to hand wave me being mad away without actually addressing the underlying reasoning for that - because both times the wagon has been mostly naked votes and hurr durr compromise votes with little in the way of people actually talking about why they think I'm scummy

You're not a compromise wagon and they aren't naked votes. I asked people to vote you because we (your voters) were already suspicious of you last time you were the wagon and gave our reasoning then. Then your wagon dissolved and the game centered around Hu Tao and Bingle for nearly a week, and when that resolved we went back to you.

[Roden]

I think solidifying our votes down to Hu Tao or Bingle is probably the only way we’ll actually get an elimination through today, considering we have less than 48 hours left in D2.

I would definitely prefer for Bingle to go over Hu Tao, but I think either going will get us more information once they flip and we see how people read them and such.

Yes let's pick between these two, I hope it's Hu but even if it is Bingle we will get a lot of info

I left the game thinking the game was going this way
I come back at L-1 with a claim being demanded. If anything I would think it would be suspicious if I wasn't pissed off here.

What? Why would it be suspicious if you weren't pissed off?

Also it isn't simply because you're mad, it just seems very overblown, and because of how similar it feels to the last time you did this it also feels scripted.

[SirCakez]

You just said you don't think she's good at playing scum

I didn't specify that she's bad at scum. I believe she's too self oriented to be good at the game in general. That has nothing to do with complex strategies, just personality.

This is a fair criticism. I think it started from when I went on vacation and didn't have enough time to play and it carried over to the holidays. I'll try to change this though going forward.

In my traitor game, you had the right read there, but didn't give any reasonings for the read. I do think it would have been hard, but this followed into that game you were Masons, and we were on the verge of victory. You needed my vote to fade Firebringer, and didnt give any reasonings there either, when I was even making some, but I needed to be convinced, that back and forth, otherwise just felt like you were walling. We had Dann too, and really was in a situation where we just needed to get a flip or go further into black hole circular arguments.

I think we are in a similar situation here, where we need a flip to progress, so I'm happy with Cakez.

VOTE: Cakez

I'm okay with this or RCE I think.

I’m fine with Cakez as well—not as much information will be gained, but I do think it’ll be accurate, at least.

VOTE: SirCakez.

E-1.

These all read obviously like compromise votes to me

[SirCakez]

Why are you clenching your fists and stomping your feet here? You've barely been around. Half the time I see your posts, you're promising to give more content later, but then when you do show up your posts show so little investment in the game. Like I'd understand being upset if you just randomly got flash wagon'd after putting in effort to solve for a month, but you've

been

getting sussed out for awhile now.

I don't think this is an accurate take on my play this game at all. I feel I have been pretty invested especially later today because I'm actually developing some reads I feel good about. I hate how you're trying to hand wave me being mad away without actually addressing the underlying reasoning for that - because both times the wagon has been mostly naked votes and hurr durr compromise votes with little in the way of people actually talking about why they think I'm scummy

You're not a compromise wagon and they aren't naked votes. I asked people to vote you because we (your voters) were already suspicious of you last time you were the wagon and gave our reasoning then. Then your wagon dissolved and the game centered around Hu Tao and Bingle for nearly a week, and when that resolved we went back to you.

I looked at your ISO and you haven't even talked about why you think I'm scum since over a week ago where you said you leaned scum because of an interaction with Naerys I had.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Cakez

Can we just flip Cakez

Oh and these riveting posts

[SirCakez]

I think solidifying our votes down to Hu Tao or Bingle is probably the only way we’ll actually get an elimination through today, considering we have less than 48 hours left in D2.

I would definitely prefer for Bingle to go over Hu Tao, but I think either going will get us more information once they flip and we see how people read them and such.

Yes let's pick between these two, I hope it's Hu but even if it is Bingle we will get a lot of info

I left the game thinking the game was going this way
I come back at L-1 with a claim being demanded. If anything I would think it would be suspicious if I wasn't pissed off here.

What? Why would it be suspicious if you weren't pissed off?

Also it isn't simply because you're mad, it just seems very overblown, and because of how similar it feels to the last time you did this it also feels scripted.

I find when I'm scum I don't get the same level of emotion/frustration about being eliminated because it's just town doing scumhunting on whatever they find in my play that's scummy. When I'm town getting mislimmed it's super obnoxious because people are either misreading me or scum pushing me for a mislim which both annoy me a lot more then getting caught as scum

I don't know what to say about your second point, it's just how I talk /shrug

[Roden]

Why are you clenching your fists and stomping your feet here? You've barely been around. Half the time I see your posts, you're promising to give more content later, but then when you do show up your posts show so little investment in the game. Like I'd understand being upset if you just randomly got flash wagon'd after putting in effort to solve for a month, but you've

been

getting sussed out for awhile now.

I don't think this is an accurate take on my play this game at all. I feel I have been pretty invested especially later today because I'm actually developing some reads I feel good about. I hate how you're trying to hand wave me being mad away without actually addressing the underlying reasoning for that - because both times the wagon has been mostly naked votes and hurr durr compromise votes with little in the way of people actually talking about why they think I'm scummy

You're not a compromise wagon and they aren't naked votes. I asked people to vote you because we (your voters) were already suspicious of you last time you were the wagon and gave our reasoning then. Then your wagon dissolved and the game centered around Hu Tao and Bingle for nearly a week, and when that resolved we went back to you.

I looked at your ISO and you haven't even talked about why you think I'm scum since over a week ago where you said you leaned scum because of an interaction with Naerys I had.

Yes...which is why I brought up that you were a wagon a week ago and that your current wagon is a return to that.

[Roden]

I think solidifying our votes down to Hu Tao or Bingle is probably the only way we’ll actually get an elimination through today, considering we have less than 48 hours left in D2.

I would definitely prefer for Bingle to go over Hu Tao, but I think either going will get us more information once they flip and we see how people read them and such.

Yes let's pick between these two, I hope it's Hu but even if it is Bingle we will get a lot of info

I left the game thinking the game was going this way
I come back at L-1 with a claim being demanded. If anything I would think it would be suspicious if I wasn't pissed off here.

What? Why would it be suspicious if you weren't pissed off?

Also it isn't simply because you're mad, it just seems very overblown, and because of how similar it feels to the last time you did this it also feels scripted.

I find when I'm scum I don't get the same level of emotion/frustration about being eliminated because it's just town doing scumhunting on whatever they find in my play that's scummy. When I'm town getting mislimmed it's super obnoxious because people are either misreading me or scum pushing me for a mislim which both annoy me a lot more then getting caught as scum

I don't know what to say about your second point, it's just how I talk /shrug

I hate meta claims like these because you would absolutely never claim this if you'd had the opposite reaction to getting voted. So this is pretty meaningless to me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Elements replaces RCEnigma.

The new deadline: (expired on 2023-12-31 09:11:00)

[Elements]

Sup people in my phone
I'm currently trying to go to sleep so won't be reading until tomorrow

[Hu Tao]

Understandable

[SirCakez]

I think solidifying our votes down to Hu Tao or Bingle is probably the only way we’ll actually get an elimination through today, considering we have less than 48 hours left in D2.

I would definitely prefer for Bingle to go over Hu Tao, but I think either going will get us more information once they flip and we see how people read them and such.

Yes let's pick between these two, I hope it's Hu but even if it is Bingle we will get a lot of info

I left the game thinking the game was going this way
I come back at L-1 with a claim being demanded. If anything I would think it would be suspicious if I wasn't pissed off here.

What? Why would it be suspicious if you weren't pissed off?

Also it isn't simply because you're mad, it just seems very overblown, and because of how similar it feels to the last time you did this it also feels scripted.

I find when I'm scum I don't get the same level of emotion/frustration about being eliminated because it's just town doing scumhunting on whatever they find in my play that's scummy. When I'm town getting mislimmed it's super obnoxious because people are either misreading me or scum pushing me for a mislim which both annoy me a lot more then getting caught as scum

I don't know what to say about your second point, it's just how I talk /shrug

I hate meta claims like these because you would absolutely never claim this if you'd had the opposite reaction to getting voted. So this is pretty meaningless to me.

Ok so guess we're at an impasse here

I'd like to hear from the other wagon residents

[Roden]

Leaf, what do you think?

[AnimatedWiz]

I would like to hear from Elements as well, if that’s all right. I think someone who hasn’t been slogging in these trenches with us for the last week can probably add some, uh, fresh perspective that we’re all too mired to discover ourselves.

[AnimatedWiz]

I just am not having an easy time reading the majority of y’all this game—keep second-guessing myself and my intuition. Feels like everyone’s talking in riddles from behind masks, and there’s enough of y’all I feel that way about that I know it can’t be the only detector of scumminess I use… even if it’s what I mostly have at this point.

…is there a possibility we go back to Bingle? I would really like that information to help me read everyone.

VOTE: Bingle.

[Hu Tao]

I would like to hear from Bingle since I changed my read on him.

[Flavor Leaf]

Damn i wrote that much while being that checked out

I really can just autopilot

[Flavor Leaf]

Leaf, what do you think?

I don’t really like meta reasonings much, and i don’t know why I’m on Cakez other than the possibility i could see them as scum. I need a flip.

[Elements]

I hate reading games
I'm at page 8 and I'll I've written so far is:

99 feels over explained

82 feels like something town!Daisy would write
Which overall doesn't make much sense because town!daisy overexplains things all the time. She's also not in the game

[Elements]

I sort if got to page 18
Only other thing I wrote down was:

320 ew

[Elements]

Bloop

Do we 'Bloop' here?

Bloop

If this is my legacy I can die happy

[Thomith]

I hate reading games
I'm at page 8 and I'll I've written so far is:
99 feels over explained
82 feels like something town!Daisy would write
Which overall doesn't make much sense because town!daisy overexplains things all the time. She's also not in the game

Who is town!daisy?

[Elements]

Who is town!daisy?

The way OopsieDaisy plays when she's town

[Bingle]

Bloop

Do we 'Bloop' here?

Bloop

If this is my legacy I can die happy

Clearly all of my work to pocket elements for when she inevitably replaced in is paying off.