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[HighPrincessErinys]

I would add that kyouku/dragon/gamma probably can't all be scum since two scum wouldn't buss the other (i think?) so imo gamma and kyouku are v/w w/v.
Given the presence of a vig (and if vig were to get rbed we have a d4) I could get on board with a gamma wagon. Seems like it's picking up steam. Don't love it, but getting a flip in that group of three is good. I'll revisit hu tao as well

Dragon has helped Kyouko wagon more than anyone, I think

...Just not when it counted.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Gamma makes absolutely no sense as scum here and to disrupt the status quo like they did is just silly.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Kyouko

I wanted to see what others would say/do. What do you think of cw getting off kyouko?

[Flavor Leaf]

I would add that kyouku/dragon/gamma probably can't all be scum since two scum wouldn't buss the other (i think?) so imo gamma and kyouku are v/w w/v.
Given the presence of a vig (and if vig were to get rbed we have a d4) I could get on board with a gamma wagon. Seems like it's picking up steam. Don't love it, but getting a flip in that group of three is good. I'll revisit hu tao as well

Dragon has helped Kyouko wagon more than anyone, I think

...Just not when it counted.

They’re doing it right now. I feel like I come back to the game, and every time, Dragon has tried to make a push elsewhere in my absence. I think that’s all I need to be satisfied with Kyouko here today.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Kyouko

I wanted to see what others would say/do. What do you think of cw getting off kyouko?

A little weird, but i think they’d go back on to end the day.

[Flavor Leaf]

I actually resonated a lot with Cw in the last few pages.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, everyone trying to use Gamma meta, but I’ve played more games with Gamma than everyone in this game combined.

[cw357]

This is also a kind of stupid argument but I think it holds some water: a lot of people find playing scum to be more engaging and the gamma slot was in a lot of ways setting itself up for getting elimed—it felt so low effort that it's not even what scum would do, discrediting wifom. I'm not saying it makes me townread gamma by any means but I think trying to influence gameplay after replacing in is probably towny in some ways, whereas scum goes "lmao idk what's going on here lemme sheep leading wagon," which to be fair, gamma did sheep, but it was high-effort and felt like it was trying to figure something out. Tbf I have a major weakness for quote dumps.

Atm I do think the case for kyouku is thus stronger than gamma

[HighPrincessErinys]

I would add that kyouku/dragon/gamma probably can't all be scum since two scum wouldn't buss the other (i think?) so imo gamma and kyouku are v/w w/v.
Given the presence of a vig (and if vig were to get rbed we have a d4) I could get on board with a gamma wagon. Seems like it's picking up steam. Don't love it, but getting a flip in that group of three is good. I'll revisit hu tao as well

Dragon has helped Kyouko wagon more than anyone, I think

...Just not when it counted.

They’re doing it right now. I feel like I come back to the game, and every time, Dragon has tried to make a push elsewhere in my absence. I think that’s all I need to be satisfied with Kyouko here today.

idk this one is just desperate for a flip, for some progress. This game is a ✨~special~✨ kind of miserable with slots like cw and gera and town's complete inability to cooperate.

[cw357]

I would add that kyouku/dragon/gamma probably can't all be scum since two scum wouldn't buss the other (i think?) so imo gamma and kyouku are v/w w/v.
Given the presence of a vig (and if vig were to get rbed we have a d4) I could get on board with a gamma wagon. Seems like it's picking up steam. Don't love it, but getting a flip in that group of three is good. I'll revisit hu tao as well

Dragon has helped Kyouko wagon more than anyone, I think

...Just not when it counted.

VOTE: Kyouko

I wanted to see what others would say/do. What do you think of cw getting off kyouko?

alright I don't hate this argument, especially dragon pulling support from kyouku
them voting together adds credence i think
VOTE: Kyouku

[HighPrincessErinys]

Like my soul might wither away if we don't get a scumflip today this shit is wretched

[ssbm_Kyouko]

huge fucking yikes look at this, decided to check HPE's mafia games to see if it could conceivably find crumbs (no indication in its PTs that it crumbsniffs), but I did see in Super MArio Bros Mafia it is very worried about this townie, wgeurts, who is catching onto it. So I decided to read their combined ISO to see if HPE also discredits wgeurts like it discredits me and look what I found:
(post tags, vote tags, italic tags all removed because I had to copy paste from game to get this quote)

{Peta, Jingle}
{Radical Rat, CSF}
{Adorable, Cerb, Fate, Porkens}
{HPE}

HPE
The reason why I like Peta so much, as I don't like this slot, and I do like the timing of Peta's vote. Let's break it down:

This slot just keeps popping up, indicating activity and that it's following the game, yet never posts anything of substance. It's all comes across as for show, suspiciously like they want to appear useful but are hesitant to commit to anything that could complicate matters.

Posts 46, 50 and 51 see it making remarks that give the impression of being involved whilst when dissected, yield no concrete or substantive information as to their current thoughts. 73 and 89 are both for instance, just more nothing burger. Most, if not all the others around then, are more of the same. Peta evidently beat me to it regarding applying pressure, which I liked. Around the time I formed these thoughts in the thread his vote popped up out of nowhere.

I also really don't like post 122 in response to said vote, it is just more empty questioning without providing anything of substance. To then followup with that by criticising Jingle for not having reliable reads in 124 having not provided any themselves, to then LITERALLY in 135 stating they don't have them either whilst just calling a followup wagon vote sheep, is not a good look. I struggle to picture town intent here at this stage of the game, and that makes them my best option to vote right now.

A sidenote, to add here again, is that they too are weirdly obsessed with the double vote but even moreso than Adorable. Posts 15, 60 and 64 all come back to it.

VOTE: HPE

Also to add, HBE has been actively present all game so it's not that they're not invested. The response to Peta's vote was almost immediate and they've been rather frantic since.

Yeah, this one figured a game full of people its not played with wouldn't have a picture of it's playstyle. People have told this one before that taking a more passive backrow approach is par for the course for it, and it wants to agree? This one obviously isn't the best judge of it's own meta because it isn't always conscious of how it's actually, y'know, playing and acting, but still, this feels like a big clash of playstyle, albeit...*

But other than that:
It's obviously up to the individual's interpretation of how cool and good a post actually is in terms of solviness, but this one doesn't really think you could call everything you've linked as providing nothing of substance, especially when you go and try to call me asking someone why they're voting me as "empty questioning".

And what's up with trying to recontextualize 124/135?

Because there is very much a difference in Jingle expressly saying they don't think they EVER have reliable reads, and this one saying it doesn't have reads at the moment. And "weirdly obsessed with the double vote" feels like a grasping at straws, to be honest. *...this also feels like a really uncharitable analysis of me either way.

Recontextualize results in HPE's Ego: search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=topics&author_id=36786

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, everyone trying to use Gamma meta, but I’ve played more games with Gamma than everyone in this game combined.

mmm
games played doesn’t always equate to meta proficiency
but that’s just me being snide after 2314

[cw357]

I would add that kyouku/dragon/gamma probably can't all be scum since two scum wouldn't buss the other (i think?) so imo gamma and kyouku are v/w w/v.
Given the presence of a vig (and if vig were to get rbed we have a d4) I could get on board with a gamma wagon. Seems like it's picking up steam. Don't love it, but getting a flip in that group of three is good. I'll revisit hu tao as well

Dragon has helped Kyouko wagon more than anyone, I think

...Just not when it counted.

They’re doing it right now. I feel like I come back to the game, and every time, Dragon has tried to make a push elsewhere in my absence. I think that’s all I need to be satisfied with Kyouko here today.

idk this one is just desperate for a flip, for some progress. This game is a ~special~ kind of miserable with slots like cw and gera and town's complete inability to cooperate.

im in a category with geraint
bruh that's insulting

[HighPrincessErinys]

I would add that kyouku/dragon/gamma probably can't all be scum since two scum wouldn't buss the other (i think?) so imo gamma and kyouku are v/w w/v.
Given the presence of a vig (and if vig were to get rbed we have a d4) I could get on board with a gamma wagon. Seems like it's picking up steam. Don't love it, but getting a flip in that group of three is good. I'll revisit hu tao as well

Dragon has helped Kyouko wagon more than anyone, I think

...Just not when it counted.

They’re doing it right now. I feel like I come back to the game, and every time, Dragon has tried to make a push elsewhere in my absence. I think that’s all I need to be satisfied with Kyouko here today.

idk this one is just desperate for a flip, for some progress. This game is a ✨~special~✨ kind of miserable with slots like cw and gera and town's complete inability to cooperate.

im in a category with geraint
bruh that's insulting

good.

[Flavor Leaf]

Alright, we in Twilight?

HPE and Pavowski have at most 1 scum in them if Kyouko is town.

I find it highly unusual that Geraint generally will sheep me in games ‘hoping’ or ‘trusting’ that I’m town to help move games forward, especially because I’ve been known to read them, and they hold off here even though I am conf town. That’s a weird read, but i think it holds some weight that they could be scum.


Dragon like i said tried every single time to protect Kyouko, generally indirectly, sometimes directly.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, everyone trying to use Gamma meta, but I’ve played more games with Gamma than everyone in this game combined.

mmm
games played doesn’t always equate to meta proficiency
but that’s just me being snide after 2314

Eh that lead to town stomp afterwards because of it

[cw357]

kyouku r u scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: kyouko
I’m locking this in

[tris]

Votecount 2.10

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

ssbm_Kyouko (6)

- Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys, Pavowski, Hu Tao, cw357, Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald (2)

- DragonEater70, ssbm_Kyouko

Not Voting (3)

- geraintm, Purplemango

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Mod notes

[tris]

ssbm_Kyouko was eliminated on Day 1. She was a

Vanilla Townie

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Night 2 begins now, and ends in (expired on 2023-12-31 10:46:00). Please submit any night actions before then.

[tris]

oh, make sure to pm actions to me tonight

[Ausuka]

Nobody died on Night 2.

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