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Post Post #2375 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:48 am

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vote count 5.7 !


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Post Post #2376 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:52 am

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oh no i'm about to be prodded
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Post Post #2377 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:53 am

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i could go shaddow i guess

still prefer aisa
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Post Post #2378 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 8:13 am

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VOTE: aisa

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Post Post #2379 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:05 am

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I'm a VT

I'll drop a few last minute reads
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Post Post #2380 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:15 am

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In post 2380, Aisa wrote: I'll drop a few last minute reads
Urg trying to do this without overthinking every read I've ever had
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Post Post #2381 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:23 am

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Post Post #2382 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:32 am

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Something came up, back now.

I've felt good about townreading Bella for a while. It's hard to explain why beyond vibes, but I'll try.
It feels clearest when she has a recent post. Her contributions are often small, but recently they've always felt natural and like what I would expect to come from town who is solving. For example, today she said:
In post 2113, Bellaphant wrote: Like, Jupiter, knot and maybe shadow feel like ok lims.
And then her reads changed to:
In post 2242, Bellaphant wrote: Play wise it's shadow or outer, buddy equity it's sky or Aisa. We shouldn't lim out of those four I think
I like this because it mirrors how I've felt today - I've been a bit indecisive and changed my mind a few times.

Bella's also been a bit more passive in this game than the scumgames of hers I've seen. Compared to previous games, her posting here has more stream-of-consciousness-y posts. It feels less like she's pushing anything or making an effort to be townread.

Also here are a few posts by T3 and Black that feel unpaired to me

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In post 493, Black wrote:
In post 402, Bellaphant wrote: They give me super mixed vibes? Their beginning posts were quite bad, I agreed with some of the middle, specifically about aisa, and then the lurker vote was horrible.
In post 479, Bellaphant wrote: VOTE: kurtapika

Also, I was going to make a joke about our lovely cohesive VC but dann beat me :(
I don't like this. Why not vote for me here over someone you have mixed feelings over?
In post 504, Black wrote:
In post 499, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 493, Black wrote:
In post 402, Bellaphant wrote: They give me super mixed vibes? Their beginning posts were quite bad, I agreed with some of the middle, specifically about aisa, and then the lurker vote was horrible.
In post 479, Bellaphant wrote: VOTE: kurtapika

Also, I was going to make a joke about our lovely cohesive VC but dann beat me :(
I don't like this. Why not vote for me here over someone you have mixed feelings over?
The answer is literally in what you quoted? Y
Sorry if I'm missing it but I'm not seeing where you explained why you would want to vote Kurtpika over me. You said you don't townread me and you think I'm sus. It feels unnatural of you to not put pressure on me here and instead join the bigger wagon
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In post 17, Skygazer wrote:
In post 15, T3 wrote: Is it bad to already have a sr?
bella?
Yeah. I mean, I guess I could explain why but it’s pretty obvious.
In post 26, T3 wrote:
In post 22, JupiterXV wrote: may i inquire why you scumread bella?
"Is it bad to already have a tr" indicates to me that Bella has a degree of self-consciousness and feels the need to ask permission from the thread to express her thoughts.
In post 42, T3 wrote: Let me put it this way: In a vacuum, statements like “Is it bad to have a tr this early” are >rand scummy. Obviously there are factors that may affect said vacuum, but as a general rule, your statement is more likely to come from scum. Also, I’d be willing to bet that the townread you, if town, have, isn’t particularly deep and is just a general meta/viberead. I
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but I guess I didn’t really feel the need to. Does that make sense?
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Post Post #2383 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:51 am

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I know everyone in this game already has their pet reason to townread Skygazer but here's mine:

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In post 1169, Titus wrote: I'd bet my bottom dollar on T3 or Kurtapika being scum.

Sure, it's possible that scum got unlucky with an attack but there's several people who just aren't scum. The doctor can't heal Dann, AF, and Bella, not to mention myself but maybe I'm not that obvtown.

Scum wouldn't send their lurky member, K, to handle the kill as he'd be more likely to be jailed.

It's peeking through wifom a bit but I'd bet it's T3 and K here.
In post 1181, Titus wrote:
In post 1176, Dannflor wrote: well i feel night and day stronger on kurtapika
I hear you but you aren't getting it. I'll find a way to persuade you.
In post 1190, Skygazer wrote: well after review, i'm fully convinced that T3 is scum now, so i don't think my vote won't change today
In post 1237, Titus wrote: That or K based on a no kill but T3 preferred unless a jk says otherwise. (Won't happen).
In post 1266, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1255, T3 wrote:
In post 1196, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1194, T3 wrote:
In post 1192, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1184, T3 wrote: VOTE: Skygazer
are you scumreading me now? your reasoning yesterday was just survivalism, so is that still the case? or did something change?
Your case yesterday was incredibly bad faith and same today
what is bad faith about it
Let me put it this way: I was 'salty' but you haven't differentiated my tone between "annoyed town" and "annoyed town." I was pretty annoyed that my strongest townread had just claimed scum and I dislike how you're construing my annoyance to mean that I'm scum, when there is an alternative, equally likely explanation.
i mean the severity of the reaction plays into it for me too. i feel like when i'm wrong i just go "oh whoops" and move on quickly because a W is a W. i think your reaction seems more appropriate as a "my team is in a really bad spot" reaction over a "i misread someone." i understand that town can get annoyed, but your annoyance here does not look town.

i also think that you think that i'm just the easiest counterwagon to push through, which is why you tossed out a blanket statement like "bad faith" rather than any actual points. you were open about the fact that you weren't scumreading me yesterday, and today the only thing tangible you've had against me was that you don't like my arguments against you because you think i should be reading your annoyance differently. so you're giving not-solving/defeated-scum vibes to me.
In post 1277, Skygazer wrote: okay. i'm 1v1ing T3. pretend i have a cop guilty on him or something. if he flips town then we can kill me tomorrow. but he won't flip town, i'm like 99% confident at this point (and i'm usually right when i'm this confident)

When Titus started hinting that she was the JK with a soft guilty on T3 near the start of day 2, Skygazer immediately doubled down on their T3 scumread and started pushing T3 really strongly.

If they were scum they could have pretended to not notice Titus's crumbing. Even if they were scum who did not want to ignore the crumbing, they didn't have to go as far as to make posts such as 1266 to back up Titus's push. They also didn't know at this point if Titus would out herself as JK.

tbh I don't think this is a 100% towntell. Definitely cool scumplay if it came from scum though
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Post Post #2384 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:05 pm

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Overall my reads are roughly like this at the moment:

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Post Post #2385 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:28 pm

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^does feel legit. Hmm
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Post Post #2386 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:35 pm

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I think if I were calling the shots I'd want to quickly flip shaddow and project and re-evaluate if the game doesn't end

Project's tone does ping me a bit in spots although I'm not totally sold on him either for reasons I've already talked about
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Post Post #2387 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:36 pm

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preferring shaddowez here
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Post Post #2388 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:36 pm

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In post 2386, Bellaphant wrote: ^does feel legit. Hmm
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Post Post #2389 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:51 pm

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UNVOTE: for now, i'm busy and i need time to reevaluate.
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Post Post #2390 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:56 pm

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shiki replaces afrayed knott.
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Post Post #2391 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:57 pm

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i'm just gonna like add another three hours
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Post Post #2392 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:00 pm

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oh that's me

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Post Post #2393 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:02 pm

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how're there still ten alive on day five? lol
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Post Post #2394 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:02 pm

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anyway,

uh,

please don't end day yet will start reading very shortly thumbs up
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Post Post #2395 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:58 pm

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okay so okay so okay

...

i am going to omit a lot of the process stuff here since i assume everyone knows i am town
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Post Post #2396 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:59 pm

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In post 2394, shiki wrote: how're there still ten alive on day five? lol

is anyone around?

were day three and four elims both on whoever was jailkept?

assume scums were no killing towards this end otherwise they were just submitting a titus nightkill repeatedly?
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Post Post #2397 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 2:04 pm

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In post 550, schadd_ wrote:
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Dutch , b. 1969 -

Oil and acrylic on canvas , 70 x 50 cm.


vote count 1.6 !


Kurtapika (5):
Titus, Dannflor, Bellaphant, Aisa, OutWorldER
shaddowez (2):
JupiterXV, Black
Bellaphant (1):
T3
T3 (1):
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Dannflor (1):
Skygazer
JupiterXV (1):
shaddowez
Skygazer (1):
Kurtapika
Black (1):
Afrayed Knott

not voting (1):
ProjEctRy


with 14 alive, it takes 8 to over-represent someone's malice. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-12-06 13:48:14)


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In post 850, schadd_ wrote:
Spoiler:
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vote count 1.9 !


Kurtapika (5):
Titus, Bellaphant, Aisa, Dannflor, JupiterXV
Skygazer (2):
ProjEctRy, OutWorldER
ProjEctRy (1):
Skygazer
Bellaphant (1):
T3
T3 (1):
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Black (1):
Afrayed Knott
Afrayed Knott (1):
Black

not voting (2):
Kurtapika, shaddowez


with 14 alive, it takes 8 to over-represent someone's malice. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-12-06 13:48:14)


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  • i have T3 v/la for another short while
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  • i have Black v/la for the same while length as Afrayed Knott
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In post 975, schadd_ wrote:
Spoiler:
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vote count 1.b !


T3 (5):
Dannflor, OutWorldER, Titus, Aisa, Black
Kurtapika (2):
Bellaphant, JupiterXV
Skygazer (1):
ProjEctRy
ProjEctRy (1):
Skygazer
Black (1):
Afrayed Knott
Aisa (1):
T3
Skygazer (1):
camelCasedSnivy

not voting (2):
Kurtapika, shaddowez


with 14 alive, it takes 8 to over-represent someone's malice. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-12-06 13:48:14)


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In post 1068, schadd_ wrote:
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W. Ming
: Lingering Garden 流园 No.2 (2015)


vote count 1.c !


T3 (5):
OutWorldER, Titus, Aisa, JupiterXV, Skygazer
Skygazer (2):
ProjEctRy, T3
Kurtapika (1):
Bellaphant
Black (1):
Afrayed Knott
Skygazer (1):
camelCasedSnivy
Titus (1):
Black

not voting (3):
Kurtapika, shaddowez, Dannflor


with 14 alive, it takes 8 to over-represent someone's malice. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-12-06 13:48:14)


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In post 1100, schadd_ wrote:
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Kelly Sinnapah Mary - The Fables of Sanbras, 2023


vote count 1.d !


Black (5):
Afrayed Knott, Dannflor, Titus, Skygazer, OutWorldER
Skygazer (4):
ProjEctRy, T3, camelCasedSnivy, Black
T3 (2):
Aisa, JupiterXV
Kurtapika (1):
Bellaphant

not voting (2):
Kurtapika, shaddowez


with 14 alive, it takes 8 to over-represent someone's malice. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-12-06 13:48:14)


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  • i just accidentally had two separate blocs of skygazer votes before
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Post Post #2398 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 2:06 pm

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right like hard to imagine dannflor thinking 'i will move wagon from a town to my partner and then from my partner to my other partner'

and there's element of like, just unlikely to bus black there even if she wasn't being widely townread i think
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Post Post #2399 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2024 2:11 pm

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In post 2399, shiki wrote: just unlikely to bus black there even if she wasn't being widely townread i think

think this probably only applies to the first couple votes though from there pressure is quite apparent
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