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[Gamma Emerald]

I saw that HPE had been the wagon before the day’s lim on days 1 and 2 and drove the vote onto it in part to resolve that concern, it wasn’t that strong an SR I just needed to clear the fog

[Gamma Emerald]

@Pav

once this game ends I have an idea for a hydra name for us, tho I don’t expect it will see immediate use

[Flavor Leaf]

HPE using a lot of unconfirmed reaction test reads to try and bush bad reads and ignoring the fact they actively pushed both of the misfades as scum

Remember, Lap wagon gained momentum in counter to an HPE wagon Day 1 too.

And Kyouko ended up scum reading HPE, and Kyouko flipped town.

I hate that it’s in this position because I made this call in BTXVII and it was wrong
Can you point out anything I’m overlooking that’s different between this and that?

What happened there?

Idk. This is pretty standard “everyone push against FL reads being chaotic and wild as bad!” Which generally means I’m settling in on the right track.

This happens almost every time i get conf town.

And then i generally win thereafter

aint you the guy who wasnt interested in meta defense on kyouko

Sure, but I’m not using it to read me, I’m using it on my own reasoning to read, which I have actively stated is fine, i told Dragon earlier that’s good for getting your read, but need more to convince others of it.

So if you need help reading me as town, I’ll be sure to give you more reasons

[Pavowski]

@Pav

once this game ends I have an idea for a hydra name for us, tho I don’t expect it will see immediate use

sure, but it may be summer or almost before I play again.

Sorry for offtopics, I want to review the HPE wagonry tomorrow morning. Have a good night all

[Flavor Leaf]

I saw that HPE had been the wagon before the day’s lim on days 1 and 2 and drove the vote onto it in part to resolve that concern, it wasn’t that strong an SR I just needed to clear the fog

It’s just funny, how every read I’ve had, except they scum read and was the wagon before Lap.
So they trying to shade my hammering of Lap for it, which is fine.

Not everyone gets the maFilosophy behind it, even though i feel I’ve shown on multiple occasions why it’s not as bad as a lot of people have tried to make it out to be.

[HighPrincessErinys]

In terms of advancing the game, my read on Pavowski, not to be a hypocrite, keeps fluctuating, but this one is... pretty deadset on gera here tbh.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I’ll Vig Geraint tonight

[Flavor Leaf]

Kyouko flip just helped so much on adding to the VCA. By wagonomics, HPE and Geraint both look pretty rough on Lap, and HPE on Kyouko.

[Purplemango]

@Purple, do you agree with my reads or not really? Anything in particular you agree/don't agree with?

Kinda? I don't agree with the way you townread yourself
Its makes more sense for you to be scum

[Purplemango]

Holy shark, Purple has never once voted in this game.

Brother, how

I just too good for it (voting scare me)
I'll probably will vote if its make sense to me

[DragonEater70]

@Purple, do you agree with my reads or not really? Anything in particular you agree/don't agree with?

Kinda? I don't agree with the way you townread yourself
Its makes more sense for you to be scum

Why does it make more sense I'm scum?

[Hu Tao]

So here’s my conclusion

When i claimed my confirmed Vig shot, I became a scary IC. This made every slot have to fear for the vig shot and not able to push me.

It then became a game of town trying to get me to town read them and scum trying to prevent that.

So I’m gonna side with team Dragon Eater/Hu Tao because they tried harder to get me on the same page with them, and every single day phase at one point, i started the day early town reading the two of them.

+

I already went through my possibilities with them, and i have no more effort to fight for that, and they’ll just win with higher effort if they are scum.

So yeah, Hu Tao/Dragon/FL town core.

Let's gooooo

[Hu Tao]

Holy shark, Purple has never once voted in this game.

Brother, how

this is so funny

[Hu Tao]

HPE has also had the worst reads this game, and sheeped into both wagons. Actively helped push Lap too, when Lap was obv town.

I think we go hpe today, I agree

[DragonEater70]

So yeah, Hu Tao/Dragon/FL town core.

Let's gooooo

High five, sis!

[DragonEater70]

And ... you're TRing Dragon again. Jesus Christ you give me whiplash sometimes dude

My theory is that FL is incompletely unreliable in terms of reads atp and is only good for shooting (which who knows if that's even going to happen again) and, like he said, the way others played around the fact he was confirmed vig.

Yuck

[DragonEater70]

Do you even have a read on me HPE, or are you just saying this to discredit Flavor?

[DragonEater70]

Also do you have a read on Hu Tao?

[Purplemango]

@Purple, do you agree with my reads or not really? Anything in particular you agree/don't agree with?

Kinda? I don't agree with the way you townread yourself
Its makes more sense for you to be scum

Why does it make more sense I'm scum?

you act like a town in a scum way
Maybe you even give out fruits to people

[DragonEater70]

Huh? I feel I should know what the fruit thing is about, but I don't see how it's related or scummy?

And like, you said you kinda agree with my reads, so I assume you think at least one of HPE/Gamma is scum. Do you not think the way I confidently pushed them while defending Hu Tao and Kyo is similar to my play in my recent-ish town games in our group?

[HighPrincessErinys]

Do you even have a read on me HPE, or are you just saying this to discredit Flavor?

Also do you have a read on Hu Tao?

This one's had you as solid town for a while, partly because its a little wary of jumping to conclusions about you and forming a bad scumread like it has in a past few games. HT is still null and considering the circumstances that makes her closer to a scumlean because actually not being able to read her is terrifying?

Lowkey gera/pav/HT scumteam seems viable but it doesn't wanna overlook slots like you and purple either.

[Purplemango]

Huh? I feel I should know what the fruit thing is about, but I don't see how it's related or scummy?

And like, you said you kinda agree with my reads, so I assume you think at least one of HPE/Gamma is scum. Do you not think the way I confidently pushed them while defending Hu Tao and Kyo is similar to my play in my recent-ish town games in our group?

You are indeed supposed to, think about apples and roles that are related to it

Like yes, but more than usual, I would prefer not to vote for you right now, Especially since I am basing myself on information in advance, which is not necessarily valid here because the situation is different. just in general you are one of the higher possibilities Right now
I'll probably prefer HPE, I'm ok with voting for Gera but from what I see they are less influential, we can vote for them later on
Also, what you think about pav?

[DragonEater70]

Hmmm okay I think I understand what you mean. Not sure though why you're saying I could be an Apple Farmer (basically Friendly Neighbor) if you think I might be scum.

I dunno about Pav, I feel he's pretty towny but I think his towniness is not unfakable, meaning there's a possibility it's fake.

I don't want to vote him today, I think we can consider him after we flip 1-2 scum.

[DragonEater70]

Do you even have a read on me HPE, or are you just saying this to discredit Flavor?

Also do you have a read on Hu Tao?

This one's had you as solid town for a while, partly because its a little wary of jumping to conclusions about you and forming a bad scumread like it has in a past few games. HT is still null and considering the circumstances that makes her closer to a scumlean because actually not being able to read her is terrifying?

Lowkey gera/pav/HT scumteam seems viable but it doesn't wanna overlook slots like you and purple either.

Wait, when did you have a bad scumread of me? Weren't the only two games we played the ones Skygazer modded, on both of which we had opposite alignments?

Speaking of which, how do you feel HT's play here compares to Love Child?

[HighPrincessErinys]

Do you even have a read on me HPE, or are you just saying this to discredit Flavor?

Also do you have a read on Hu Tao?

This one's had you as solid town for a while, partly because its a little wary of jumping to conclusions about you and forming a bad scumread like it has in a past few games. HT is still null and considering the circumstances that makes her closer to a scumlean because actually not being able to read her is terrifying?

Lowkey gera/pav/HT scumteam seems viable but it doesn't wanna overlook slots like you and purple either.

Wait, when did you have a bad scumread of me? Weren't the only two games we played the ones Skygazer modded, on both of which we had opposite alignments?

Speaking of which, how do you feel HT's play here compares to Love Child?

this one is pppppppretty sure we've had a couple games where this one's made bad pushes against town!you as town but its 5:35am and it needs to sleep. it'll check in on that and HT tomorrow