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[HighPrincessErinys]

its played with atleast 4 of your various accounts atp so

[geraintm]

HPE laying it on thick like that while trying to push Geraint the way they are almost looks like intentional connecting between Geraint slot.

Sorry, "intentional connecting"? Are you saying this is s/s distancing?

I feel incredibly stupid today

Think he means s/t "try to paint the other guy as my scumpartner" shenanigans. This one just fuckin hates how gera's been like "uwaaah theres NO INFO for me to use... and i didnt want ANYTHING TO DO with that TERRIBLE ELIM yesterday..." like ok dude if you thought the elim sucked ass why didn't you

say anything.

Part of me thinks this might sorta how gera plays in general but if so its a miserable way to play lmao

I had the same thought re: Gera but my guy has obviously played a few games, so he's gotta know it's a "miserable way to play"

Which honestly just makes the slot like 50/50 on its face for me, either totally disinterested town (which ... why are you playing?) or scum grouchy they pulled the red card and just hoping to skate by getting townread for apathy

Anyway your explanation makes more sense than how my addled self was trying to read that comment

I know my limitations as town. I know I am.not thr sort of player who can make good cases on people early.doors, but I try everything I can to be townie and make it awkward for scum

[geraintm]

Yeah, I’ll Vig Geraint tonight

Well,.I don't want you to.

[geraintm]

Kyouko flip just helped so much on adding to the VCA. By wagonomics, HPE and Geraint both look pretty rough on Lap, and HPE on Kyouko.

My day 1 vote was rough? You know I was only voting thr longest wagon so we could get today 2, right?

[geraintm]

Has anyone in here played with me as scum btw?
Can people.recall what I am.like.as scum?

[Pavowski]

HPE laying it on thick like that while trying to push Geraint the way they are almost looks like intentional connecting between Geraint slot.

Sorry, "intentional connecting"? Are you saying this is s/s distancing?

I feel incredibly stupid today

Think he means s/t "try to paint the other guy as my scumpartner" shenanigans. This one just fuckin hates how gera's been like "uwaaah theres NO INFO for me to use... and i didnt want ANYTHING TO DO with that TERRIBLE ELIM yesterday..." like ok dude if you thought the elim sucked ass why didn't you

say anything.

Part of me thinks this might sorta how gera plays in general but if so its a miserable way to play lmao

I had the same thought re: Gera but my guy has obviously played a few games, so he's gotta know it's a "miserable way to play"

Which honestly just makes the slot like 50/50 on its face for me, either totally disinterested town (which ... why are you playing?) or scum grouchy they pulled the red card and just hoping to skate by getting townread for apathy

Anyway your explanation makes more sense than how my addled self was trying to read that comment

I know my limitations as town. I know I am.not thr sort of player who can make good cases on people early.doors, but I

try everything I can to be townie

and make it awkward for scum

Bolding mine. If you've tried everything you can to be townie, I don't even know what to say.

I don't know what you think, (or, let's be thorough, pretend to think) about basically any other slot in this game. Can you like, take some steps to affect that? Who are you willing to vote? Who would you never vote?

[Pavowski]

Oops I broke the spoiler tag, yuck

[Pavowski]

Kyouko flip just helped so much on adding to the VCA. By wagonomics, HPE and Geraint both look pretty rough on Lap, and HPE on Kyouko.

My day 1 vote was rough? You know I was only voting thr longest wagon so we could get today 2, right?

How could anybody possibly know this, you have never mentioned it

[Gamma Emerald]

Oops I broke the spoiler tag, yuck

you’re supposed to use spoiler=
I hate that the blackout tag is the default

[Gamma Emerald]

Kyouko flip just helped so much on adding to the VCA. By wagonomics, HPE and Geraint both look pretty rough on Lap, and HPE on Kyouko.

My day 1 vote was rough? You know I was only voting thr longest wagon so we could get today 2, right?

Did you even do anything D2?

[Pavowski]

Do you even have a read on me HPE, or are you just saying this to discredit Flavor?

Also do you have a read on Hu Tao?

This one's had you as solid town for a while, partly because its a little wary of jumping to conclusions about you and forming a bad scumread like it has in a past few games. HT is still null and considering the circumstances that makes her closer to a scumlean because actually not being able to read her is terrifying?

Lowkey gera/pav/HT scumteam seems viable but it doesn't wanna overlook slots like you and purple either.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who still feels this way about HT at this point, I continue to be baffled that people townread that slot, let alone strongly townread

Unless you're scum discrediting in which case I'm annoyed that I'm agreeing with you, even though I do agree with you

[Pavowski]

Spoiler:

Oops I broke the spoiler tag, yuck

you’re supposed to use spoiler=
I hate that the blackout tag is the default

Wish I could just like your post or something rather than burn a post on this, but thanks GE, that certainly is a silly feature

[Pavowski]

Now that Gamma has educated me on the ways of properly using a spoiler tag:

Spoiler: Wagons

EOD 1 Wagon

Votecount 1.6

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 07:27:34).

Votecount

Laplacian (7)

- ssbm_kyouko, Abnegation, Pavowski, HighPrincessErinys, geraintm, DragonEater70, Flavor Leaf

Joyboy (2)

- cw357, Hu Tao

cw357 (1)

- Joyboy

HighPrincessErinys (1)

- Laplacian

Not Voting (2)

- Purplemango, Thomith

MID D2 Wagon

Votecount 2.3

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

cw357 (3)

- cw357, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao

geraintm (1)

- Joyboy

Pavowski (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

ssbm_Kyouko (2)

- Flavor Leaf, DragonEater70

Not Voting (4)

- geraintm, Pavowski, Purplemango

LATE D2 Wagon

Votecount 2.7

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

ssbm_Kyouko (4)

- Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys, Hu Tao, cw357

HighPrincessErinys (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

cw357 (1)

- Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (4)

- geraintm, Purplemango, DragonEater70, Pavowski

[/area]

EOD 2 Wagon

Votecount 2.10

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-01-02 19:46:41).

Votecount

ssbm_Kyouko (6)

- Flavor Leaf, HighPrincessErinys, Pavowski, Hu Tao, cw357, Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald (2)

- DragonEater70, ssbm_Kyouko

Not Voting (3)

- geraintm, Purplemango

On both elimination wagons: Pav, HPE, Flavor
On Lap wagon only: Gera, Dragon, +2 dead townies
On Kyouko wagon only: Hu Tao, CW, Gamma

The other wagon d1 was HPE: Dragon, Hu Tao, Flavor
The other wagon d2 was CW: Dragon, HPE, Hu Tao

Absolute speculation begins here.

Spoiler: Speculation and Vibes

Here are my bad wagonomics thoughts.

I really don't think Dragon/Hu Tao are paired here. They're both off the elimination wagon on the same alternate target before one of them gets on the lim wagon d1 and the other gets on d2. Hu Tao looks worse for my money given the move from CW to Kyouko (especially if CW turns up scum).

Is it weird that HPE is nearly wagoned d1 and ends up on the lim wagon both days? ehhh. D1 wagons are chaotic and fleeting. I still townvibe that one even though we're probably past the point where I should be reading based on feel

Gamma with the hammer d2 has the benefit of coming in and doing a thorough catch-up and then dropping the hammer, despite professing wants to vote elsewhere. Feels towny. I think the slot is towny on balance, too

Gera's vote may as well have been RVS, never votes d2
Purple never votes period
CW is what CW is, notably after facing down elim on d2 they join the yeet wagon even though they're pretty vocal in thinking kyo is town
These three slots have *got* to contain at least one scum. On effort and d2 happenings it could be CW but wouldn't surprise me even a little bit if it's in the others. Though I will reiterate what I've said earlier that if Purple is scum I don't think DE is). If these three by some twist of fate are scum together, then fuck this game. If they're all town, also fuck this game.

I think Dragon/Hu Tao has one scum (rather vote Hu, though from an information standpoint Dragon probably gives us more)

HPE/Gamma don't seem to affect each other the way Dragon/HT or Dragon/Purple do in my weird conjectures but process of elimination would tell me there's one here

tl;dr, and no, I am not betting on this:
1 in Gera,Purple,CW
1 in Dragon/Hu Tao
1 in Gamma/HPE

I wonder if the CW wagon yesterday was on the mark.

VOTE: CW

[Purplemango]

Hmmm okay I think I understand what you mean. Not sure though why you're saying I could be an Apple Farmer (basically Friendly Neighbor) if you think I might be scum.

I dunno about Pav, I feel he's pretty towny but I think his towniness is not unfakable, meaning there's a possibility it's fake.

I don't want to vote him today, I think we can consider him after we flip 1-2 scum.

Are you the queen in snow white??


Make sense

[Pavowski]

Purple, could you give some thoughts on some other slots

Like HPE, Gamma, Hu Tao in particular

[Purplemango]

Purple, could you give some thoughts on some other slots

Like HPE, Gamma, Hu Tao in particular

What the word 'slot' means? You all use it

From the three of them, most to the less
1. HPE
2 gamma
3 hu tao
Hu tao act like a town, and talk cool
Idk about gamma
HPE probably the best choice, and its kinda make sense

[Purplemango]

Google translate it to 'incision/cut'
I really don't think thats what you meant when you asked that

[Pavowski]

Google translate it to 'incision/cut'
I really don't think thats what you meant when you asked that

It just means a position in the game. The first person to have joined is slot #1, etc. Beyond signups the numbers don't mean anything. It's kind of just another way to refer to the other people in the game, except that when replacements occur, the people change but the "slot" maintains its role (in this game, whatever PM Joyboy received passed to Gamma upon replacing in, for example), so the Joyboy/Gamma "slot" is a single entity as far as the game is concerned

[Pavowski]

Purple, could you give some thoughts on some other slots

Like HPE, Gamma, Hu Tao in particular

What the word 'slot' means? You all use it

From the three of them, most to the less
1. HPE
2 gamma
3 hu tao
Hu tao act like a town, and talk cool
Idk about gamma
HPE probably the best choice, and its kinda make sense

Could you elaborate on this at all? Like ok HPE "makes sense" for your vote but, why? Has Gamma given you reasons to think she is/isn't town or do you just have no impression at all? For those of us out here trying to read you, your thoughts and reasons might matter more than your vote

[Gamma Emerald]

Purple, could you give some thoughts on some other slots

Like HPE, Gamma, Hu Tao in particular

What the word 'slot' means? You all use it

From the three of them, most to the less
1. HPE
2 gamma
3 hu tao
Hu tao act like a town, and talk cool
Idk about gamma
HPE probably the best choice, and its kinda make sense

Why do you have no read on me? Did my predecessor make any impression?

[Hu Tao]

Has anyone in here played with me as scum btw?
Can people.recall what I am.like.as scum?

Nope

[Hu Tao]

Do you even have a read on me HPE, or are you just saying this to discredit Flavor?

Also do you have a read on Hu Tao?

This one's had you as solid town for a while, partly because its a little wary of jumping to conclusions about you and forming a bad scumread like it has in a past few games. HT is still null and considering the circumstances that makes her closer to a scumlean because actually not being able to read her is terrifying?

Lowkey gera/pav/HT scumteam seems viable but it doesn't wanna overlook slots like you and purple either.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who still feels this way about HT at this point, I continue to be baffled that people townread that slot, let alone strongly townread

Unless you're scum discrediting in which case I'm annoyed that I'm agreeing with you, even though I do agree with you

Probably since they have more experience with me than you. This is our first game together right?

[DragonEater70]

its played with atleast 4 of your various accounts atp so

Okay so turns out we've played in Fire and Ice and I guess we were both town. I just did a really good job of erasing that game from my memory (I think a lot of us did).

Has anyone in here played with me as scum btw?
Can people.recall what I am.like.as scum?

Nope. As far as I'm able to tell, you've never even rolled scum.

[Hu Tao]

Purple, could you give some thoughts on some other slots

Like HPE, Gamma, Hu Tao in particular

What the word 'slot' means? You all use it

From the three of them, most to the less
1. HPE
2 gamma
3 hu tao
Hu tao act like a town, and talk cool
Idk about gamma
HPE probably the best choice, and its kinda make sense

Thanks. You talk cool too

[Flavor Leaf]

@Pav - I don’t see the Gamma/HPE split and why it couldn’t be both