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Votecount 1-XXIX

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to hammer, or 6 to decide for no execution.

Naerys (3):

camelCasedSnivy, KittyTacky, Black

camelCasedSnivy (2)

: Thomith, davesaz

DragonEater70 (2):

ssbm_Kyouko, Katsuki

ssbm_Kyouko (2):

Hu Tao, Gamma Emerald

Katsuki (1):

Naerys

KittyTacky (1):

JacksonVirgo

Not Voting (1):

DragonEater70

notes

• The deadline is due in (expired on 2024-01-07 07:46:06).
  
• You can find the combined mod ISO here
  
• ssbm_Kyouko is V/LA on weekends.
  
• Thomith is V/LA this weekend.

[Thomith]

I hate to use this as an excuse, as I felt I had a handle on this but I guess not for this game, I have attention issues and I used to get really hyperfocused by the most "shiny" people (aka my stronger reads) and forgot about a lot of other people in a game and just realising how much I

don't

actually have a handle on it is depressing but we deal, I'll put work in to fix that don't worry

No stress, this is a game we play for fun, gotta do what we can to keep it fun.

[davesaz]

If I had to guess I would say Dragon/Thomith is TvT

And if one was wolf you'd be saying Dragon correct?

Jackson what was the point of this question

Honestly, don't remember

I think this has played out far enough to be able to comment on it now.
I initially saw the question as just trying to get confirmation on the relative position of Dragon and Thomith in Black's reads.
I think that this could be made up as an answer if scum wanted to avoid confrontation over it. Not remembering would be a convenient way to sidestep if it was meant to be a gotcha, but given those two ways to respond to 1024 I think the not remembering answer is more likely town than scum. Wanting to confirm reads is more nai as both alignments want to know that. It's a small thing but every little thing helps.

[davesaz]

I still think cCS is scummy, but I might have a playstyle bias against low effort.

[davesaz]

VOTE: Naerys
Time is too short to do much thumb twiddling. We need to make some kind of progress at generating higher wagon numbers so at least that will be available.

[Naerys]

the only thing i have to write is that i am tired

[Thomith]

I guess just your Katsuki read then

Yes but it may take me a little bit to consolidate how I'm feeling into a post because I'm still at work for a little bit.

Can you also go over your Dave read a little when you get around to it? I think I'm townreading him tonally so I'm curious what you see there

Three things pinged me early

1) Mentioning the Juggernaut claim - again, I do genuinely feel as if there is at least one scum in the group of people that even subtly shaded Katsuki for this, this is especially true if she ends up flipping town.
2) Mentioning that if we weren't told there were werewolves in this game, that he would suspect me for knowing there were werewolves - I don't see the point of mentioning this at all, and it almost feels like somebody who is trying to look like they are contributing, while not really saying much.

3) The Gamma Rhyming thing - while on a reread, I do concede that dave never outright called Gamma scummy for this, I still do think he was subtly shading it here, saying things such as people that rely on Gamma's posting to read its tone, while not outright scumreading, is still throwing shade on the slot imo, and on something that I think is easy to jump on/shade, where it seems, at least to me, to be something that is NAI. (Also I'm not convinced that 408 is not dave saying he suspects Gamma tbh, but he claims this isn't the case so i'll believe him).


Posts like 216 251 and 252 again, feel like appearing to be active, while not saying a whole lot.

Granted, this was early on, and I do agree that dave has picked up later on in the day, but these early pings still haven't really gone away for me yet - I feel like there is a world where he could be scum finding his groove, and posting better as the day went on.

[DragonEater70]

Sorry, I've been meaning to put a bit more effort into the game today and do some serious reading and ISO diving, but my time management skills and my decision making suck and I kinda have to sleep right now. But tomorrow is Saturday so I'll be definitely able to do that

From reading the last page only I wanna VOTE: dave

[DragonEater70]

Goodnight

[Black]

Sorry, I've been meaning to put a bit more effort into the game today and do some serious reading and ISO diving, but my time management skills and my decision making suck and I kinda have to sleep right now. But tomorrow is Saturday so I'll be definitely able to do that

From reading the last page only I wanna VOTE: dave

Do you townread Naerys?

[davesaz]

Maybe Dragon is scum. My posting on this page doesn't get any more town than that, so that's gotta be a chainsaw.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

it's more of a body-of-work concept
there's a seeming apathy towards me that I just can't accept

Open 895, I think was the game number. The 9:12 alianna modded (not the ongoing one that she ran back to back). Maybe you didn't notice it then because you were scum but this is how I read you these days

[Black]

Sorry, I've been meaning to put a bit more effort into the game today and do some serious reading and ISO diving, but my time management skills and my decision making suck and I kinda have to sleep right now. But tomorrow is Saturday so I'll be definitely able to do that

From reading the last page only I wanna VOTE: dave

Do you townread Naerys?

Dragon scratch this question. I looked over your iso and it's pretty clear she's one of your top townreads. Can you explain why you townread her in depth?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Spoiler:

Complete:
01. Mini Normal 1850 - VT - Eliminated Day 1 - Town Win
03. Open 659: Jungle Republic - Vanilla Townie - NKed Night 1 - Town Loss
04. Birds of Paradise - Goon - Flawless Mafia Win
05. Newbie 1764: Wind - Replaced Goon - Flawless Mafia Win
07. Open 660: White Flag - VT - Eliminated D4 - Town Loss
08. Mini 1860 - Town 1-Shot Commuter - Vigged Night 2 - Town Win
09. Micro 661: Scumteam unpick - Replaced VT - Eliminated D1 - Town Win
11. Open 663: Stack the Deck - VT - Killed Night 1 - Town Win
12. Large Normal 200 - VT - Vigged N2 - Town Win
13. Large Normal 199: L'Hôtel Pleuvoir - VT - Vigged N3 - Town Loss
14. Mini Normal 1865 - VT - Endgamed - Town Loss
15. Code Geass - Shinichiro Tamaki (Town) - Venged D1 - Town Win
21. Mini Normal 2057 - Town Mason (Replaced Out mid-way) - Town Win
22. Mini Normal 2213 - VT - Town Loss
24. Mini Theme 2217: Owners Market Blitz - VT (elected MO) - Survived - Town Win
25. Mini Normal 2218 - Mafia Odd Night Strongman - Mafia Loss
26. Large Normal 233 - Mafia Goon - Mafia Loss
28. Mini Theme 2225: Chrono Trigger Chronicles - VT - Eliminated D1 - Town Win
30. Mini Theme 3001: Radio Buzz - Insurgent (VT) - Eliminated D4 - Town Win
32. Open 827: Dead Silence III - Town Mason - Daykilled - Town Win
33. Mini Normal 2232 - VT - Killed N2 - Town Loss
35. Large Normal 236 - Mafia 1-Shot Loud Visitor - Eliminated D1 - Mafia Loss
36. Mini Theme 2228: Isekai uPick - Akatsuki (Town Tracker/Restricted Watcher) - Survived - Town Win
37. Mini Normal 2238: (Modded by Dwlee99) - VT - Survived - Town Win
38. Mini Theme 2240: SCP uPick - Researcher (Town) Panacea - NKed Night 2 - Town Loss
40. Mini Theme 2244: 3d20 uRoll - (19, 13, 10) Cult Leader Complex Mason Finder - Killed N1 - Cult Loss
41. Mini Normal 2239: AQAtPimP - Town 2-Shot JOAT - Killed N4 - Town Loss (Vigged N_M and blocked a NK with my JOAT powers)
42. Manatee's Pokemon Large Theme - Town Azurill - Killed N1 - Town Loss
43. Large 237 - Mafia Doctor - Eliminated D1 - Mafia Loss
44. Mini 2247: Mountain Dew Mafia - Replaced Livewire (VT) - Survived - Town Win
47. Open 893: 9:12 - Vanilla Townie - Survived - Town Win
49. Mini Theme 2320: Smuggler's Port 2 - Merchant (VT) - volunteered as tribute D1 - Town Win

I believe this to be a comprehensive compendium
of games where me and kyouko stood in the same stadium
Though I think it was a bad idea to take this measure
because looking back at mini 2238 for a split second spiked my blood pressure

Roles and results of the games are mine as this is from my notepad

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I feel like Gamma, and others in this game (off the top of my head Black, Naerys, DE70, Thomith, and maybe davesaz and Hu Tao) should all know that 'apathy' toward Gamma is my standard play. I wouldn't call it apathy so much as deference? I have an easier time sorting her from the sides.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

And as Katsuki and I won't be here for deadline I dont see DE70 happening.

VOTE: Naerys

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like Gamma, and others in this game (off the top of my head Black, Naerys, DE70, Thomith, and maybe davesaz and Hu Tao) should all know that 'apathy' toward Gamma is my standard play. I wouldn't call it apathy so much as deference? I have an easier time sorting her from the sides.

I feel like alignments are easier to deduce
If solvable behavior you try to induce

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Ok but your solvable behavior, for me, is when you get emotional over something. I don't want to induce that intentionally over a game

[Gamma Emerald]

Could you try to find some different angle?
My goal to reduce emotional outbursts your reads it will mangle.

[Black]

Ok but your solvable behavior, for me, is when you get emotional over something. I don't want to induce that intentionally over a game

Can you elaborate on this? I've seen Gamma get emotional as scum and I've also seen her act really nonchalant as scum. I think you're probably better at reading her than I am so I'm curious what you think

[Katsuki]

Won't be around later, I'm fine with doing this, L-1 by my count.

VOTE: NAERYS

[Black]

Won't be around later, I'm fine with doing this, L-1 by my count.

VOTE: NAERYS

Do you think I'm bussing Naerys?

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