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This just makes me think Elements is scum-
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right now probably ydraIn post 220, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Elements if we were in the voting stage (not coalition) who would you be voting for now?
I don't get what you mean here?Also if you can think of this, who would you have voted for so far before the hypothetical "current" vote?I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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I'm satisfied that this is about what I'd expect from scum!Elements in terms of intended content and actual content
I'm now going to look back at town games and try to remember why Elements is usually a really free townread when town-
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I went into this game from a perspective of thinking it would be unlikely we'd get a coalition win so if I wasn't in the coalition that puts me in a position to see a 1/5 and a 1/2 or a 2/5 which I think benefits town to solve. I was thinking of asking not to be in the coalition at that point I think? but then realised it was a 9p setup so that whole line of thinking was invalid.In post 238, Klick wrote:
@Elements: I suppose it's worth asking if what I wrote above is true and you had some amount of conscious awareness that posting 62 would get people talking about townslips?In post 86, Elements wrote:
The only read on me I like so farIn post 79, implosion wrote:
there's also a part of me that wants to call this post like, really hard town for being the kind of thing scum would be very unlikely to genuinely think (because they have a scumbuddy they're interacting with/are probably more self-conscious about stuff) and also extremely unlikely to come up with the idea of fakingIn post 62, Elements wrote: I keep thinking this game is 7 players
I think my confusion came from the 7p wilson that was/is in signupsI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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if you find out can you let me know? I need to cut back on day 1/2 mislims, it's bad for my healthIn post 253, Klick wrote: I'm now going to look back at town games and try to remember why Elements is usually a really free townread when townI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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I do agree nothing I've done I couldn't have faked. That's why I liked Implo's read on me but none of the others. That one specifically talked about fakeing posts and why that one wasn'tIn post 253, Klick wrote: I'm satisfied that this is about what I'd expect from scum!Elements in terms of intended content and actual contentI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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I think this is fair and probably trueIn post 254, Elements wrote:
I went into this game from a perspective of thinking it would be unlikely we'd get a coalition win so if I wasn't in the coalition that puts me in a position to see a 1/5 and a 1/2 or a 2/5 which I think benefits town to solve. I was thinking of asking not to be in the coalition at that point I think? but then realised it was a 9p setup so that whole line of thinking was invalid.In post 238, Klick wrote:
@Elements: I suppose it's worth asking if what I wrote above is true and you had some amount of conscious awareness that posting 62 would get people talking about townslips?In post 86, Elements wrote:
The only read on me I like so farIn post 79, implosion wrote:
there's also a part of me that wants to call this post like, really hard town for being the kind of thing scum would be very unlikely to genuinely think (because they have a scumbuddy they're interacting with/are probably more self-conscious about stuff) and also extremely unlikely to come up with the idea of fakingIn post 62, Elements wrote: I keep thinking this game is 7 players
I think my confusion came from the 7p wilson that was/is in signups
But I now also think that this is a confusion that you could have as scum too
Particularly with renewed context of 'you aren't tryharding too much early on as scum' I could see you thinking this is 7p for the first few posts before you got engaged-
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There's not really much I can say against your read tbh
I could very easily be playing like this had I rolled red, I just happen to be town this timeI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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Elements in Mini Normal 2305 wrote:My day one often gets read as being forced or overcompensating or generally not natural, but most of the time it's just me saying whatever comes into my head without thinking before posting
I was scum in this quote but I was describing true thoughts on Elements' playme in same game wrote:I find it interesting that Elements describes her D1 as fairly NAI because I've found her very readable from early on in the last few games I've read with her in them. From what I can remember there's a noticeable self-consciousness and dip in enthusiasm/energy when she's scum. Here she just wants to play and get things going and it feels very motivated by wanting to make solvable content
Tbh I think this reasoning is probably outdated. Elements seems lower energy in more recent games and that probably has little to do with alignment and more to do with outside factors.
Either way I don't really townread Elements atm and that's as solid as that read gets at this point in time. I think assuming scum was probably misguided as well though. Flat null.-
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What are your thoughts on DragonEaterIn post 258, Elements wrote: There's not really much I can say against your read tbh
I could very easily be playing like this had I rolled red, I just happen to be town this time-
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As a more general succinct response to this reasoning, now that I've looked at Elements' gameplay in excruciating detail: I think you're assuming a lot more effort out of scum!Elements here than scum!Elements would actually have.In post 242, DragonEater70 wrote: I'm TRing her for:
That just feels like such a weird read to fake.In post 43, Elements wrote:
That's the oneIn post 39, DeasVail wrote:
the "ok" one?In post 37, Elements wrote:
I thought the same things from T3's first postIn post 19, implosion wrote: T3 townish.
Rebutting a townread of her but without actually using the rebut to position herself, get town cred, or even as an excuse to form a read.In post 56, Elements wrote:
half my posts are about towning T3?In post 54, Appearance wrote: elements maybe town for not focusing so much on forming a townblock.
This could be faked, but considering her being uncomfortable with me in the coalition earlier I feel it's a weird approach for scum to just say that and I also just vibed with this because I believe that Elements would think that I feel similar.In post 196, Elements wrote:
you feel similarIn post 195, DragonEater70 wrote:In post 191, Elements wrote: Dragon were you town in that game with Keylaga?
Why?In post 192, DragonEater70 wrote:Yep-
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Probably just townIn post 260, Klick wrote:
What are your thoughts on DragonEaterIn post 258, Elements wrote: There's not really much I can say against your read tbh
I could very easily be playing like this had I rolled red, I just happen to be town this time
I was concerned to begin with as he seemed to be very much taking charge of the game and there wasn't anything he was posting that gave me reason to town him. Then I thought back to the keylaga game and he feels similar there as I said earlierI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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Someone said it!In post 261, Klick wrote: As a more general succinct response to this reasoning, now that I've looked at Elements' gameplay in excruciating detail: I think you're assuming a lot more effort out of scum!Elements here than scum!Elements would actually have.
I've been waiting so long for someone to say "that's more effort that elements would put in" or words to that effect
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You feel vaguely towny right now hilariously
I agree with your Dragon take
You're hesitant on Ydrasse? I want to understand that more-
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I think you want to be understood and read accurately and I don't actually think that would be your state of mind as scum-
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viewtopic.php?t=92018In post 264, Klick wrote: You feel vaguely towny right now hilariously
I agree with your Dragon take
You're hesitant on Ydrasse? I want to understand that moreI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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I briefly skimmed Ydrasse's ISO and don't really understand what you want me to seeIn post 266, Elements wrote:
viewtopic.php?t=92018In post 264, Klick wrote: You feel vaguely towny right now hilariously
I agree with your Dragon take
You're hesitant on Ydrasse? I want to understand that more-
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Ydra feels like she's here this gameIn post 267, Klick wrote: I briefly skimmed Ydrasse's ISO and don't really understand what you want me to see
She did not in that gameI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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In post 223, Klick wrote: I think Ydrasse can be low WIM as either alignment
I think the high WIM expressed here is because Ydrasse is town
I have seen these and I'm aware I don't know Ydra's play well so will likely defer to this at some pointIn post 224, Klick wrote: I've seen low-WIM Ydrasse-town as well
What I haven't seen is this kind of engagement from scum-Ydrasse
Might be worth a nosey through her scum meta in a bitI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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Not reallyIn post 261, Klick wrote: As a more general succinct response to this reasoning, now that I've looked at Elements' gameplay in excruciating detail: I think you're assuming a lot more effort out of scum!Elements here than scum!Elements would actually have.
It's not the amount of effort
It's just a soulread-
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Do you agree that there is no reason to TR me by play but i remind you of Mini Normal 2317? Because that is an extremely weird take if so.
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No lolIn post 273, DragonEater70 wrote:Do you agree that there is no reason to TR me by play but i remind you of Mini Normal 2317? Because that is an extremely weird take if so.
I agree with the conclusion and the general direction of Elements' thinking on you
As in, early on I had an inkling of doubt that you might be deepwolfing, but I've decided that's not very likely with more analysis on my part
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