Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Flavor Leaf]

If we hit town today, Neap PR doesn’t matter because they can just discredit a clear tomorrow.

I do feel like Celeb, if town, is setup to be the prime misfade tomorrow, especially if they get a guilty.

[Naerys]

I'm not putting it past you to finally roll scum and be able to play it off like town!Naerys.

I am honored you think that. I am town this game though. One day though, one day...

I have no idea what scum!Naerys looks like.

Since i never rolled scum nobody knows that.

[Naerys]

Don’t have a strong case either way for you, and this point in the game, that’s worrying.

Yeah, mislim is not something we can afford anymore.

[Roden]

Why me? People keep mentioning me as possible scum, but when i asked for you all to speak your concerns about me, then there was huge silence.

You're really only in the PoE if Celeb flips town.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think we go either Roden or Bingle today probs.

Does anyone think they are like to both be town?

[Flavor Leaf]

Roden never gets shot at anyways, so the PR check is pretty nice, and kinda confirms Bingle and Celeb as town if Roden is scum.

If Roden is town, that’s another point against Celeb/Bingle.

I just think Roden/Hu Tao have more partner equity out of anyone in this game based on how the Cakez wagon come to fruition and the specifics of when momentum shifted + the way Hu Tao sits on the counterwagon Day 1.

[Hu Tao]

It's certain one of the pr is scum imo. We should be voting there.

Me: Hu Tao is genuinely trying to solve
Hu Tao: makes this post
Me:

Thom jailkept Celebloki and Cele himself said he was blocked even before Thom claimed, i believe.
I think this rather strongly indicates that both are town.

I literally just said this

[Hu Tao]

Roden never gets shot at anyways, so the PR check is pretty nice, and kinda confirms Bingle and Celeb as town if Roden is scum.

If Roden is town, that’s another point against Celeb/Bingle.

I just think Roden/Hu Tao have more partner equity out of anyone in this game based on how the Cakez wagon come to fruition and the specifics of when momentum shifted + the way Hu Tao sits on the counterwagon Day 1.

Can't I be confirmed town if Cele checks me? Or am I misunderstanding the role.

[Flavor Leaf]

Roden never gets shot at anyways, so the PR check is pretty nice, and kinda confirms Bingle and Celeb as town if Roden is scum.

If Roden is town, that’s another point against Celeb/Bingle.

I just think Roden/Hu Tao have more partner equity out of anyone in this game based on how the Cakez wagon come to fruition and the specifics of when momentum shifted + the way Hu Tao sits on the counterwagon Day 1.

Can't I be confirmed town if Cele checks me? Or am I misunderstanding the role.

Soft conf town.

If celeb is scum, you aren’t really conf town, but you’re also not likely to get faded today, and I’ve think you’re a solid VT check today. Naerys/Elements would also be a good check.

[Flavor Leaf]

If we are wanting to let Celeb use role + figure out if they’re scum or not, i think we always hit someone who doesn’t make sense as partners with Celeb, like a Roden. Roden flips scum, Celeb is most likely just always town. If Roden is town, it looks a lot worse for Celeb.

[Hu Tao]

Yeah. I should be checked by cele tonight. Especially if they keep saying how I think I could be scum.

[Bingle]

Rolecop wouldn't make me conftown, it would just confirm that I was telling the truth about being BP if I claimed it early

There is no point to a scum Neap other than as a RC godfather in this setup. There is no point to a 1x bp other than as a RC godfather in this setup. Therefore, a RC result of Neap or 1x BP is functionally a town result, because this is a simple game and Godfathers as a concept are contrary to that.

[Dunnstral]

Given that Roden isn't pushing me I'm inclined to believe at least one of the people they are pushing right now is indeed mafia in the vts, just based off of numbers

[Bingle]

If we are wanting to let Celeb use role + figure out if they’re scum or not, i think we always hit someone who doesn’t make sense as partners with Celeb, like a Roden. Roden flips scum, Celeb is most likely just always town. If Roden is town, it looks a lot worse for Celeb.

Celeb will never get a VT result on Roden. Roden is either TPR or scum.

[Dunnstral]

Not to say they're town for not pushing me. But they are likely to be pushing mafia right now IMO so either town or bussing, and town makes more sense to me

[Flavor Leaf]

If we are wanting to let Celeb use role + figure out if they’re scum or not, i think we always hit someone who doesn’t make sense as partners with Celeb, like a Roden. Roden flips scum, Celeb is most likely just always town. If Roden is town, it looks a lot worse for Celeb.

Celeb will never get a VT result on Roden. Roden is either TPR or scum.

Hit as in fade

[Flavor Leaf]

Why are we all assuming that if they are scum, they’re true claiming their role?

I specifically don’t believe they are that role if they are scum

[Bingle]

Why me? People keep mentioning me as possible scum, but when i asked for you all to speak your concerns about me, then there was huge silence.

I think trying to link me and dunn on the back of "Bingle thought Dunn making a wallpost explaining why the potential mod error wouldn't be so specifically in the case of a JK was a soft claim of JK" instead of "Bingle fought against the Dunn wagon HARD all day yesterday" is nagl, but FL is right overall. You're not really all that scummy, you're just not towny either.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, there’s plenty of other things to link Dunn and Bingle together, thats just one link in a whole fence

[Flavor Leaf]

WIthout a Vig 1SBP seems weird for scum to have for a Simple though imo.

They specifically are not BP if they are scum.

[Bingle]

Why are we all assuming that if they are scum, they’re true claiming their role?

I'm not, but neap doesn't get a different result for Mafia Goon or Mafia Juggernaut or Town BP.

[Bingle]

Hit as in fade

Oh, nvm. I thought you were saying celeb should invest Roden, which would be the worst possible use of his action.

[Flavor Leaf]

Role Cop
Neapolitan
Jailkeeper

Role Cop
Neapolitan
BP

Role Cop
Jailkeeper
BP

Which

[Flavor Leaf]

Is it possible Thomith is a Scum Blocker claiming Jailkeeper?

I like Role Cop/Neap/BP better than the combos with JK.

[Bingle]

RC Neap BP just isn't enough power for triple goon. Thomith is town.