Mini Normal 2323 [There is an Inventor] | FIN

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Votecount 2-IV

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to hammer.

DragonEater70 (3):

ssbm_Kyouko, JacksonVirgo, Katsuki

Hu Tao (2):

Thomith, Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald (2):

Black, DragonEater70

Not Voting (4):

Hu Tao, KittyTacky, davesaz, camelCasedSnivy

notes

• The deadline is due in (expired on 2024-01-15 23:15:09).
  
• You can find the combined mod ISO here

[Black]

I still think you wanting to “discuss” felt very disingenuous.

Am I wrong? You are not really a person who likes to go into major detail from what I know. As such you wanting “more time to discuss” doesn’t really feel like it’s your style. My theory is you’re covering for Dragon here so he can slip away, I am keenly aware that giving scum more time is a bad idea.

I'm a changed woman. I've seen that me not explaining things in detail has caused issues. So I am trying to improve on that.

I 100% believe this after Mini Normal 2319. Though I still take full credit for us losing that game. My tunnel was awful regardless of how little you explained yourself

[DragonEater70]

Then if you think I'm not scum, why is it scummy for Hu Tao to stall? Still makes no sense to me

[Gamma Emerald]

I still think you wanting to “discuss” felt very disingenuous.

Am I wrong? You are not really a person who likes to go into major detail from what I know. As such you wanting “more time to discuss” doesn’t really feel like it’s your style. My theory is you’re covering for Dragon here so he can slip away, I am keenly aware that giving scum more time is a bad idea.

Why do you scumread Dragon? For the millionth time

I do have sone concerns with his D1 actions but I was substantially overstating things to try and push the presumed guilty

[Thomith]

Oh, I didn't realise Gamma thought there was a guilty too.

UNVOTE:

I believe that Hu Tao thought it was a guilty then, and if that's the case, it does explain the quick hammer threat today.

[Black]

{Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}

I want to fade in this group

Why has your read on me changed?
Still the Jackson thing from yesterday?

These 4 were off the Naerys wagon and I don't think the entire scum team was on that wagon

Aside from that though I'm having a similar problem that I had in Micro Normal 1094. Some of your posts just gut ping me the wrong way

Issue with your pool is, unless one or less scum was on Naerys, it is still statistically better to look at those on the wagon.

The issue with this statement is we don't know if one or two scum were on the wagon, so it's statistically better to look off the wagon

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I am keenly aware that giving scum more time is a bad idea.

"things I don't say when I scumread Gamma"

To be clear Gamma's town here but reading this from her has a certain irony fmpov

[Thomith]

{Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}

I want to fade in this group

Why has your read on me changed?
Still the Jackson thing from yesterday?

These 4 were off the Naerys wagon and I don't think the entire scum team was on that wagon

Aside from that though I'm having a similar problem that I had in Micro Normal 1094. Some of your posts just gut ping me the wrong way

Issue with your pool is, unless one or less scum was on Naerys, it is still statistically better to look at those on the wagon.

To be fair, I think smaller pools are easier to to look into than larger pools early.

[Gamma Emerald]

Then if you think I'm not scum, why is it scummy for Hu Tao to stall? Still makes no sense to me

I still think there’s something goofy about the way she’s giving intent to hammer
5 minutes is a pretty fucking short window, to start with. I don’t remember what exactly was going on but that happened while I was away D1.

[DragonEater70]

Gamma's progression makes zero sense here, at all. It feels like she's hopping wagons in an attempt to get a lim on whoever

If Gamma flips scum I'm locktowning Hu Tao

[Gamma Emerald]

{Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}

I want to fade in this group

Why has your read on me changed?
Still the Jackson thing from yesterday?

These 4 were off the Naerys wagon and I don't think the entire scum team was on that wagon

Aside from that though I'm having a similar problem that I had in Micro Normal 1094. Some of your posts just gut ping me the wrong way

Issue with your pool is, unless one or less scum was on Naerys, it is still statistically better to look at those on the wagon.

To be fair, I think smaller pools are easier to to look into than larger pools early.

>:/

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I was on Dragon all day yesterDay and only moved for the deadline so I wanted to keep going with that, I didn't realize that people thought I had a guilty

What do you think of gamma scumreading me for what I did? Considering you didn't have a guilty.

I'm pretty sure that Gamma really did think I have a guilty given the way she played that. And I don't think Gamma is the type to see that if she's scum with Dragon. Like as scum, the reality of all the alignments are set in stone in her mind and it doesn't occur to her to pretend I have a guilty on town!Dragon. I do think she thought you were trying to disrupt what she thought was a guilty so I think it makes sense that she'd scumread you for it

I agree with this too. Could be both of them scum together

Possible, but never scum!Gamma + town!Dragon so even if you don't have faith in my Gamma read (people really should have more faith in my Gamma reads) you'd always lim Dragon first

[DragonEater70]

Then if you think I'm not scum, why is it scummy for Hu Tao to stall? Still makes no sense to me

I still think there’s something goofy about the way she’s giving intent to hammer
5 minutes is a pretty fucking short window, to start with. I don’t remember what exactly was going on but that happened while I was away D1.

Goofy, yes. Scummy no

[Black]

There's either two scum in {Kitty, CCS, dave, kyouko, Kat, Hu} or two scum in {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}

I like my chances with the second group

[Thomith]

Did the rhyming thing impact your ability to read Gamma at all Kyouko?
If not, I choose to put full faith in Kyouko's ability to soulread Gamma

[ssbm_Kyouko]

VOTE: kyouko
While I think Dragon is a fine place to go,
I want to vote somewhere less covered, that being kyouko
honestly kyouko fits the bill of the scum I voted in the past rhyming game
since I regard both slot's content involving me as lame

I don't think it's likely that all 3 scum were on the Naerys wagon

Which means there's at least one scum in {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}

Alternatively: that wagon was god-awful and we should kill on it.
VOTE: Camel
Still don’t trust you.

VOTE: Dragon

This progression is awful

Why are you voting outside of the wagon if you think we should fade on it? Wouldn't it make more sense for you to vote kyouko here?

Agreed

VOTE: Gamma

If you're town here Gamma is never scum - what do you think of Thomith and JV?

[DragonEater70]

I'm sus of katsuki, kyouko, Dragon, gamma and Camel.

Not in any order. I wouldn't be surprised if at least 2 scum is in there.

Camel > Dragon today imo.

But I wouldn't hate a dragon vote

Why camel? Is it just the low content and how his wagon stalled?

[Black]

Ok but your solvable behavior, for me, is when you get emotional over something. I don't want to induce that intentionally over a game

Can you elaborate on this? I've seen Gamma get emotional as scum and I've also seen her act really nonchalant as scum. I think you're probably better at reading her than I am so I'm curious what you think

The easiest way to explain is that Gamma as town is at 100% cause to reaction ratio. As scum she either overdoes it or isnt fully in it and is more at either 90% or 110% ratio. Maybe even 95/105. The difference is small and hard to quantify. I dont know how I know when I know, I just do. It feels fruitless to try to explain how it works

And it's also worth noting I've found that due to.my frequent confbiasing I have better success letting Gamma alone for a while so when I do move to read her my read is not prejudiced.

Kyouko I thought you didn't have a strong Gamma read yet? Are you saying you townread her now?

[Hu Tao]

I still think you wanting to “discuss” felt very disingenuous.

Am I wrong? You are not really a person who likes to go into major detail from what I know. As such you wanting “more time to discuss” doesn’t really feel like it’s your style. My theory is you’re covering for Dragon here so he can slip away, I am keenly aware that giving scum more time is a bad idea.

I'm a changed woman. I've seen that me not explaining things in detail has caused issues. So I am trying to improve on that.

I 100% believe this after Mini Normal 2319. Though I still take full credit for us losing that game. My tunnel was awful regardless of how little you explained yourself

It's okay bestie. I'm also responsible for that loss too.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m feeling good about Thomith town so I disagree that the latter group has good odds of hitting scum

[DragonEater70]

VOTE: kyouko
While I think Dragon is a fine place to go,
I want to vote somewhere less covered, that being kyouko
honestly kyouko fits the bill of the scum I voted in the past rhyming game
since I regard both slot's content involving me as lame

I don't think it's likely that all 3 scum were on the Naerys wagon

Which means there's at least one scum in {Gamma, Thomith, Jackson, Dragon}

Alternatively: that wagon was god-awful and we should kill on it.
VOTE: Camel
Still don’t trust you.

VOTE: Dragon

This progression is awful

Why are you voting outside of the wagon if you think we should fade on it? Wouldn't it make more sense for you to vote kyouko here?

Agreed

VOTE: Gamma

If you're town here Gamma is never scum - what do you think of Thomith and JV?

Explain?

[DragonEater70]

I still think you wanting to “discuss” felt very disingenuous.

Am I wrong? You are not really a person who likes to go into major detail from what I know. As such you wanting “more time to discuss” doesn’t really feel like it’s your style. My theory is you’re covering for Dragon here so he can slip away, I am keenly aware that giving scum more time is a bad idea.

I'm a changed woman. I've seen that me not explaining things in detail has caused issues. So I am trying to improve on that.

I 100% believe this after Mini Normal 2319. Though I still take full credit for us losing that game. My tunnel was awful regardless of how little you explained yourself

It's okay bestie. I'm also responsible for that loss too.

I'm also responsible for that game being miserable

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok but your solvable behavior, for me, is when you get emotional over something. I don't want to induce that intentionally over a game

Can you elaborate on this? I've seen Gamma get emotional as scum and I've also seen her act really nonchalant as scum. I think you're probably better at reading her than I am so I'm curious what you think

The easiest way to explain is that Gamma as town is at 100% cause to reaction ratio. As scum she either overdoes it or isnt fully in it and is more at either 90% or 110% ratio. Maybe even 95/105. The difference is small and hard to quantify. I dont know how I know when I know, I just do. It feels fruitless to try to explain how it works

And it's also worth noting I've found that due to.my frequent confbiasing I have better success letting Gamma alone for a while so when I do move to read her my read is not prejudiced.

Kyouko I thought you didn't have a strong Gamma read yet? Are you saying you townread her now?

What do YOU think?

[Thomith]

Because of how fast the DE70 wagon grew, I do also think there's at least 1 scum in [ssbm_Kyouko, Gamma Emerald, JacksonVirgo, Katsuki, Black, Hu Tao (not on the wagon, but mentioned multiple times they wanted to be.)]

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Did the rhyming thing impact your ability to read Gamma at all Kyouko?
If not, I choose to put full faith in Kyouko's ability to soulread Gamma

my read was 100% formed in the past like 20-30 minutes as the "guilty" situation played out, and that would have been the case even if Gamma had not been rhyming all of D1.