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[Thomith]

thomith do you have a post or posts where you explain why you're town reading me slot / dragon? that's a surprisingly against the grain read

I'll check later (maybe tomorrow, I don't feel like ISO diving myself right now), I feel like I have at least explained my TR on you.
My TR on Dragon grew stronger because of how quickly his wagon grew early on today.

Remind me if I don't please.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like I would lean Dann town in isolation but he’s kinda a player I just hold judgment on until most often I see a solid scumtell, I rarely feel good about Dann!town

[ssbm_Kyouko]

do you have an opinion on her reaction to me / hu tao pushing her a few pages ago

I'm not surprised you were pushing her because I think Dragon was scum and you're probably doing a good job at hiding it. I am wondering about Hu Tao's push though. As for her reaction, no not really, if I'm being honest there's no reaction she could realistically have that would concern me because I'm confident she's town here

[JacksonVirgo]

now, why do you scum read him?

I don't, I think they're Town. You said opportunistic which I don't agree with, but everything else is exactly why I am town-reading them so I'm a little taken aback. It's like seeing my own feelings spoken back to me, crazy stuff.

Just to get a more complete picture, why is Gamma wolf?

i don't really think gamma is all that likely to be scum right now I just voted there to see her reaction

I'm actually having some trouble finding likely scum candidates that feel satisfying

That was the last thing I was expecting you to say, did they react in any particular way that piqued your interest?

[JacksonVirgo]

I need to severely rethink this game I've come to realise

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Let me try and explain it better.
It seemed Black SR'ed the DannDragon slot.
Dann replaces in, and Black TRs the slot due to Dann's play.
This is fine, but slots are still scummy even if someone replaces out, and the speed of the switch from SR to TR made me worry about a pocket, if I am wrong about Black or Dann.
I know Black probably knows this, she is a very good player, but I pointed it out just to make sure it was at least on her mind, again more for down the line than right now.

Does that make more sense?

I think the last post made decent sense but this does make more sense yes

[Dannflor]

ehhhh I'm leaning Gamma town for the reaction

I think Gamma tends to react extremely emotionally when pressured (especially by surprise) as either alignment but it... reads a little faker when she's scum? I think she's also less likely to care about people pushing her in general as scum

the jump to "Hu Tao you suck as town" feels pretty raw and real and I don't really imagine scum!Gamma would actually feel frustrated enough to go there

[JacksonVirgo]

i have this awkward leftover pool of [davesaz, kittytacky, thomith] but that doesn't really feel like a scum team to me

I guess I should probably seriously consider katsuki more

Kitty seems like the throw-in name at this point, which I did a faux push on him D1 that wasn't effective cuz my heart wasn't in it but it seems a lot of people have them as a backup except Hu Tao who believes up and down that they're Town.

[JacksonVirgo]

Not entirely a faux push, but greatly exaggerated

[Katsuki]

I feel like I've been burned by ignoring a replacement's scummy behavior more often than I've been rewarded by ignoring it.

People tend to do this a lot. Big difference between Dann replacing into a slot that already gave us a lot of info vs Jackson replacing into a 2 post slot.

[Dannflor]

My TR on Dragon grew stronger because of how quickly his wagon grew early on today.

I don't really like this :/

[Gamma Emerald]

ehhhh I'm leaning Gamma town for the reaction

I think Gamma tends to react extremely emotionally when pressured (especially by surprise) as either alignment but it... reads a little faker when she's scum? I think she's also less likely to care about people pushing her in general as scum

the jump to "Hu Tao you suck as town" feels pretty raw and real and I don't really imagine scum!Gamma would actually feel frustrated enough to go there

These are fair however the “you suck as town” thing is just my opinion and as such I could probably output similar as scum

[JacksonVirgo]

Do you think you are capable of changing or masking this behavior as scum? Like how good are you at mimicking your town game as scum?

I don't usually try to mimic my town game that much outside of surface level stuff, I feel it makes me have less control than I want and I don't see that as a super effective trade-off. Within reason of course

[JacksonVirgo]

Do you think you are capable of changing or masking this behavior as scum? Like how good are you at mimicking your town game as scum?

I don't usually try to mimic my town game that much outside of surface level stuff, I feel it makes me have less control than I want and I don't see that as a super effective trade-off. Within reason of course

Do I think I'm capable of doing it? Yeah, I'd probably do a pretty alright job at it if I wanted to

[JacksonVirgo]

I feel like I would lean Dann town in isolation but he’s kinda a player I just hold judgment on until most often I see a solid scumtell, I rarely feel good about Dann!town

What's tripping me up at the moment is that he's not really pushing either of his counter-wagons and I see nobody else really being up for discussion, which doesn't make sense from a wolf perspective unless it's a wifom play

[Gamma Emerald]

Eh it’s not as unusual as it seems imo

[JacksonVirgo]

Eh it’s not as unusual as it seems imo

Yeah? I hope so cuz I don't wanna feel I'm wrong on all three of my major pushes that feels gross

[Gamma Emerald]

I do want to see Dann push something, it felt like he was gonna push me which would have been very informative since his approach to me in recent games has felt slightly divergent as town/scum

[JacksonVirgo]

I said this twice now but I want to see more from Dave, for someone that apparently has a soft spot for effort he doesn't seem to be putting too much in (forgive me if I am wrong)

[Dannflor]

VOTE: thomith

i think this has the highest chance of flipping scum

pedit: pushing something

[Black]

the jump to "Hu Tao you suck as town" feels pretty raw and real and I don't really imagine scum!Gamma would actually feel frustrated enough to go there

I had this exact thought

[Dannflor]

I think that's 2 people now that said they wanted to vote Dragon but didn't because he was already at E-2.
The fact he has enough people wanting to vote him to hammer already is giving me pause.

I feel like he's either getting hard bussed, or this is a townie scum want out of the game.

I feel like there's probably at least 1 scum on him right now either way.

idk i don't like the number of posts defending my slot because of the amount of consensus and/or speed of the wagon

I think it's pretty natural for town who see their town reads being run up to want to defend them, but they usually have play arguments to defend with

all thomith seems to use is wagonomics and I don't really see anything in their posts that reads like they are really trying to *convince* anyone of their town read on me - despite having me as their top town read?

It even kinda seems like they are trying to talk Black out of their about face on me, which is really weird from someone who, again, already has me as their top town read

it reads like they want my wagon to go through by want to keep their hands clean and that's the position I'd most expect scum to take up with how this day phase has unfolded

[Dannflor]

also just in general i get the most feeling of

null / emptiness reading thomith's posts versus anyone else in the game

like they aren't trying to step on too many toes

[Black]

VOTE: Thomith

I'm ok with this

I have a to-do list that I will get around to later when I'm home but it's really just looking into some meta so not super urgent

[biancospino]

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