Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Flavor Leaf]

it's very possible Naerys is playing up to me by giving me that solve.

Gut still leans town, but I think that is a good point.

[Hu Tao]

I'm leaning celeb and flavor scum. Trying to find the last

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm leaning celeb and flavor scum. Trying to find the last

This means you must think I pocketed Bingle so hard here they would eat Titus' hat.

Just putting that out here that this is what Hu Tao thinks here.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm leaning celeb and flavor scum. Trying to find the last

This means you must think I pocketed Bingle so hard here they would eat Titus' hat.

Just putting that out here that this is what Hu Tao thinks here.

eat the hat if they're wrong*

[Flavor Leaf]

Just something that factually has to be true to consider me as scum here.

It's fine to think I'm scum here, but it also 100% means you MUST believe I hard pocketed Bingle since Day 1 of this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Dunn - If I were conf town, who would be the scum team for you?

[Flavor Leaf]

From my POV, it is always 1 of Celeb/Bingle, Maestro, and then one of Dunn/Naerys/Hu Tao.

I don't think there's any chance it isn't this, bar Maestro somehow being town with scum just not ending the game.

[Naerys]

May i remind you that i pushed Maestro slot when it was RCE and inactive? FL basically said “maybe later”
I will feel entitled if maesteo flips red

[Naerys]

Maestro hopping on Cele is either really bad play or scummy. It kinda reeks with trying to put some psychological pressure on us. Sheepier townies would give in to that and allow speedy mislim.
I dont like Celebloki´s hammer and his reasoning for it, but that Maestro´s vote... the more i think about the less i like it. Its timing, they way he voted.
I dont think i can see a universe where Cele+Maestro are alligned? For scum to fake guilty and his buddy trying to buss him at this point does not make sense. Bingle and Maestro probably buddies
Therefore Bingle+Maestro+Dunn feels rather likely to me

There's something off about this. Your read on Celeboki is only based on them hammering without considering the rest. And your reasoning for flipping your read is based on something that only happened today too.

Thats how i always alway. Recent actions are refreshing my reads. Celebloki hammer smells. Hu Tao agreed with that and now agrees with your post? Lol
Plus also the fact that Cele didnt get nk yet feels suspicious, but that Maestro vote beats that by miles.

[Naerys]

*always play

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable with you Naerys. Especially after Maestro becomes confirmed scum for me.

I think Hu Tao is outing themselves to me here on purpose and going for the victory, personally.

Means it's probably Bingle, Hu tao, Maestro with the off chance of it being Hu Tao, Celeb, Maestro. It looks like they're trying to misfade Celeb, though.

That being said there is the play where they're waiting for someone to vote Bingle, and then the 3 of them flip.

Or Hu Tao is town with the wrong solve, in which case, gg.

[Flavor Leaf]

Just something that factually has to be true to consider me as scum here.

It's fine to think I'm scum here, but it also 100% means you MUST believe I hard pocketed Bingle since Day 1 of this game.

@Dunnstral - Do you believe this happened here? If I am scum with Celebloki, Bingle would be town who swore that I am town this game from the very beginning of the game to the point where they would eat Titus' hat.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Dunn - I know I've burned you in the past. It's not happening here. I am town. If you're town, we have to come together.

I think Naerys is town here too.

[Flavor Leaf]

Naerys, we're fucked. lol.

[Flavor Leaf]

I actively fuck with my scum meta constantly to get people to think they know how to meta me, and then they get screwed over.

And yet, how many times have I been wrong when I soulread you?

btw, FL is town here, take it to the bank.

Bingle has town read me since the beginning of the game super confidently. Bingle has touted that they could catch me if I were scum very confidently as well.

I want Hu Tao and Dunn to both say they think I've pocketed Bingle since the very beginning of the game, please.

[Flavor Leaf]

Day 1 VC

Spoiler:

ssbm_kyouko

(2):

Thomith

, Bingle

Flavor Leaf

(1):

ssbm_kyouko

AnimatedWiz

(1):

Roden

gob

(1):

SirCakez

Hu Tao (1): Naerys

No elimination (1):

AnimatedWiz

Not voting (6): Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Celebloki,

Flavor Leaf

, Elements,

gob

VC 1.02

ssbm_kyouko

(2):

Thomith

,

gob

Flavor Leaf

(2):

ssbm_kyouko

,

Roden

gob

(2):

SirCakez

,

Flavor Leaf

Hu Tao (1): Naerys
Elements (1): Elements
Dunnstral (1): Bingle

No elimination (1):

AnimatedWiz

Not voting (3): Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Celebloki


VC 1.03

Flavor Leaf

(3):

ssbm_kyouko

,

Roden

,

gob

gob (3): SirCakez,

Flavor Leaf

, Bingle
Hu Tao (1): Naerys
Elements (1): Elements
Dunnstral (1):

Thomith

No elimination (1):

AnimatedWiz

Not voting (3): Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Celebloki



VC 1.04

gob (3): SirCakez,

Bingle,

Roden

Flavor Leaf

(2):

gob

,

Flavor Leaf

AnimatedWiz

(1):

ssbm_kyouko

Hu Tao (1): Naerys
Elements (1): Elements
Dunnstral (1):

Thomith

No elimination (1):

AnimatedWiz

Not voting (3): Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Celebloki


VC 1.05

gob (4): SirCakez,

Bingle,

Roden

,

Flavor Leaf

AnimatedWiz (3): ssbm_kyouko,

Hu Tao, Dunnstral

Flavor Leaf

(1):

gob

Hu Tao (1): Naerys
Elements (1): Elements
Dunnstral (1):

Thomith

ssbm_kyouko (1): AnimatedWiz

Not voting (1): Celebloki



VC 1.06

gob

(2): Bingle,

Roden

AnimatedWiz

(2): Hu Tao, Dunnstral
Dunnstral (2):

Thomith

, AnimatedWiz

Flavor Leaf

(2):

gob, SirCakez

Hu Tao (1): Naerys
Elements (1): Elements

SirCakez

(1):

Flavor Leaf

Not voting (2): Celebloki,

ssbm_kyouko

VC 1.07

gob

(5): Bingle,

Roden

,

ssbm_kyouko, AnimatedWiz,

Naerys

AnimatedWiz

(2): Hu Tao, Dunnstral
Elements (2): Elements,

SirCakez

SirCakez

(1):

Thomith

ssbm_kyouko

(1): Celebloki
Naerys (1):

Flavor Leaf

Not voting (1):

gob

VC 1.08

gob

(6):

Roden

,

ssbm_kyouko, AnimatedWiz

, Naerys,

Flavor Leaf,

Elements

SirCakez

(2):

Thomith

, Hu Tao

AnimatedWiz

(1): Dunnstral
Elements (1):

SirCakez

ssbm_kyouko

(1): Celebloki

Flavor Leaf

(1):

gob

Roden (1): Bingle


VC 1.FINAL

gob

(7):

Roden

,

ssbm_kyouko, AnimatedWiz,

Naerys,

Flavor Leaf,

Elements, Dunnstral

SirCakez

(2):

Thomith

, Hu Tao
Elements (1):

SirCakez

ssbm_kyouko

(1): Celebloki

Flavor Leaf

(1):

gob

Roden (1): Bingle

Day 2 VC

Spoiler:

2.01

Dunnstral (3): Hu Tao,

Flavor Leaf

, Celebloki
Naerys (1):

SirCakez

SirCakez (1):

Roden

Not voting (6): Dunnstral, Bingle,

AnimatedWiz

, Elements,

Thomith

, Naerys

2.02

Dunnstral (2): Hu Tao, Celebloki
Naerys (1):

SirCakez

SirCakez

(1):

Roden

Celebloki (1):

Thomith

Not voting (6): Dunnstral, Bingle,

AnimatedWiz

, Elements, Naerys,

Flavor Leaf

VC 2.03

Dunnstral (3): Hu Tao, Celebloki,

AnimatedWiz

Celebloki (2):

Thomith

,

Flavor Leaf

Naerys (1):

SirCakez

SirCakez

(1):

Roden

AnimatedWiz

(1): Dunnstral

Not voting (3): Bingle, Elements, Naerys


VC 2.04

Dunnstral (4): Hu Tao, Celebloki,

AnimatedWiz

,

Roden

Celebloki (4):

Thomith

,

Flavor Leaf

, Naerys, Bingle
Naerys (1):

SirCakez

AnimatedWiz

(1): Dunnstral

Not voting (1): Elements


VC 2.05


Hu Tao (3):

SirCakez

, Bingle,

Flavor Leaf

Celebloki (2): Naerys,

Roden

Naerys (2): Celebloki, Hu Tao
Dunnstral (1):

AnimatedWiz

AnimatedWiz

(1): Dunnstral

Not voting (2): Elements,

Thomith

VC 2.06

AnimatedWiz

(4): Dunnstral, Hu Tao,

SirCakez

,

Roden

Celebloki (2):

Flavor Leaf

,

AnimatedWiz

Hu Tao (1): Bingle
Naerys (1): Celebloki
Elements (1): Naerys

Not voting (2): Elements,

Thomith

VC 2.07

SirCakez

(4):

Roden

,

Flavor Leaf

, Hu Tao,

Thomith

Celebloki (1):

AnimatedWiz

Hu Tao (1): Bingle
Naerys (1): Celebloki
Elements (1): Naerys

Not voting (3): Elements, Dunnstral,

SirCakez

VC 2.08

SirCakez

(2):

Roden

,

Flavor Leaf

Bingle (1): Hu Tao
Hu Tao (1): Bingle
Naerys (1): Celebloki
Elements (1): Naerys

Not voting (5): Elements, Dunnstral,

SirCakez, AnimatedWiz,

Thomith

Votecount 2.09

SirCakez

(3):

Roden

, Hu Tao,

Flavor Leaf

Hu Tao (1): Bingle
Bingle (1):

AnimatedWiz

Naerys (1): Celebloki
Elements (1): Naerys

Not voting (4): Elements, Dunnstral,

SirCakez

,

Thomith

Votecount 2.10

SirCakez

(4):

Roden

,

Flavor Leaf

,

Thomith

,

AnimatedWiz

Hu Tao (1): Bingle
Naerys (1): Celebloki
Elements (1): Naerys

Not voting (4): Elements, Dunnstral,

SirCakez

, Hu Tao


Votecount 2.11

SirCakez

(3):

Roden

,

Flavor Leaf

,

Thomith

Naerys (1): Celebloki
Elements (1): Naerys
Bingle (1):

AnimatedWiz

Roden (1): Bingle

Not voting (4): Elements, Dunnstral,

SirCakez

, Hu Tao


Votecount 2.12

SirCakez

(6):

Roden

,

Flavor Leaf

,

Thomith

, Bingle, Celebloki, Dunnstral
Elements (1): Naerys
Bingle (1):

AnimatedWiz

Not voting (3): Elements,

SirCakez

, Hu Tao

Day 3

VC 3.1

Bingle (2):

Roden

, Naerys
Elements (1):

Thomith

Not voting (6): Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Celebloki, Flavor Leaf, Bingle, Elements


3.2

Roden

(3): Hu Tao, Flavor Leaf,

Thomith

Bingle (2):

Roden

, Naerys
Maestro (1): Bingle

Not voting (3): Dunnstral, Celebloki, Maestro


3.3

Roden

(4): Flavor Leaf,

Thomith

, Bingle, Hu Tao
Bingle (1): Naerys
Celebloki (1):

Roden

Not voting (3): Dunnstral, Celebloki, Maestro



VC 3.4 (labeled as 2nd 3.3)

Roden

(5): Flavor Leaf,

Thomith

, Bingle, Hu Tao, Celebloki
Bingle (1): Naerys
Celebloki (1):

Roden

Not voting (2): Dunnstral, Maestro


4.1

Celebloki (2): Bingle, Maestro
Maestro (1): Flavor Leaf

Not voting (4): Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Celebloki, Naerys

[Flavor Leaf]

Alright, Dunnstral.

It's on you. I think you are the clutch vote.

I believe the team to be exactly Maestro, Hu Tao, Bingle.

I'm pretty confident in that solve.

Hu Tao is puckering you up to vote Celeb or myself because that wins them the game.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Celeb stayed alive so I stayed in the pool.

And while Thomith is a Jailkeeper, I feel like Thomith was killed not because of them being a PR, but because they were town reading me.

On top of that, I actively was in a town core with Wiz + Thomith. Wiz died because they would have confirmed Celeb as a Neap.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm leaning celeb and flavor scum. Trying to find the last

This is a scum claim for multiple reasons:

1: It implies Hu Tao thinks that I hard pocketed Bingle from the very beginning of the game. Dunn also would need to think this, but I feel like Dunn wasn't in finished analyzing mode, where as it's obvious Hu Tao's looking to pounce.

2: Hu Tao said "still looking for a 3rd". This is the big one. From a Town Tao POV, they know that it's one of Bingle/Celeb. They picked Celeb. They know it's one of Maestro/Flavor. They chose Flavor. They are directly agreeing with Dunnstral's point. This literally only leaves Naerys. How are they "still looking for a 3rd"?

In addition to the case I pushed on them early on in the game, starting Day 1. Hu Tao was expecting to be the one to 1v1 Celebloki here, and hoping to over Bingle. Bingle was not trying to have Celebloki target me because I got pigeonhole defended behind Celebloki.

My town core has been dying off.

First Kyouko, who I pushed as never being scum based on the way they made their case on Gob.

Then Wiz and Thomith, 2 players I've been town locked with since the beginning of the game.

I am confident that scum is Hu Tao/Maestro. Celebloki doesn't die because if Celebloki died last night, I'd be confirmed town, and Thomith and I would be linked up incredibly tight. Thomith is NOT a kill I make with 3 scum alive.

Dunnstral, you are the clutch vote. Please see why Naerys and I are town here.

[Hu Tao]

Maestro hopping on Cele is either really bad play or scummy. It kinda reeks with trying to put some psychological pressure on us. Sheepier townies would give in to that and allow speedy mislim.
I dont like Celebloki´s hammer and his reasoning for it, but that Maestro´s vote... the more i think about the less i like it. Its timing, they way he voted.
I dont think i can see a universe where Cele+Maestro are alligned? For scum to fake guilty and his buddy trying to buss him at this point does not make sense. Bingle and Maestro probably buddies
Therefore Bingle+Maestro+Dunn feels rather likely to me

You don't think flavors jump on maestro was equally as bad btw?

[Bingle]

@Dunn - If I were conf town, who would be the scum team for you?

Celeb/maestro/naerys looks likely to me, tbh. Celeb has you in a pocket because of the inno, and naerys is just kind of following the path of least resistance there.

Like, look at my voting history again. I protected Dunn from elimination because I thought he was an unouted JK who had willingly crumbed to prevent celeb going down. I was the biggest push for celeb to live another day. I was pushed gob until I thought he was town and the wagon only went through eventually because it was high info. I stood behind cakez even at significant risk of my own lim.

Like, undoubtedly I’ve had some bad reads this game, regardless of who is the third, but consistently I’ve been doing things that don’t really benefit a scumme scumteam and you should see that.

[Bingle]

I'm leaning celeb and flavor scum. Trying to find the last

It’s really not fleaf. I think m is voting with me because it’s a safe play. If they get support on me, he can just hammer. The lim is never outside of me celeb, so poisoning the well on the celeb wagon with a shit vote just makes sense, and if we vote right and get to see tomorrow he looks better because he jumped onto celeb early.

He just really didn’t expect me to have such strength in my fleaf read.

[Bingle]

I think Celeb stayed alive so I stayed in the pool.

And while Thomith is a Jailkeeper, I feel like Thomith was killed not because of them being a PR, but because they were town reading me.

On top of that, I actively was in a town core with Wiz + Thomith. Wiz died because they would have confirmed Celeb as a Neap.

Fleaf, you’re tinfoiling again. Wiz died because he could inno Roden OR guilty celeb. Thomith died because he could get guilties and potentially net us a spare mislim if we were really lucky. And you haven’t been in the pool, really, for days. If you’re right and scum is hoping to misfade you they’re dumbasses or celeb has to be scum, because celeb always dies first.

It’s far more likely you’re just being warlocked and they’re piggybacking your charisma to try to catch a fade on me to clench the game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Nah, it’s Hu Tao over Naerys imo.

I can see it as Maestro/Celeb/Hu Tao, but Naerys was pushing Maestro slot for a while, and Maestro is the only conf scum from my pov

[Flavor Leaf]

And Hu Tao was blanket defending RCE, and inching Dunn closer to voting.