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[JacksonVirgo]

Yeah i mean that's good but my ego is sad and shattered

So where are you at right now? Any other reads you had?

You / Thomith are my 2 biggest townreads, kyouko a little bit too but i'm being careful cause i'm bad at reading big posts (bad attention span)

Can you explain these three reads further

[JacksonVirgo]

You worded that much better than I did LMFAO

[JacksonVirgo]

The strongwilled also goes through protections iirc

[Gypyx]

The strongwilled also goes through protections iirc

Checked the wiki and yes it does

only commuting protected from strongwilled

this setup is bonkers, looks like i'll have to design a normal of my own soonish UwU (preins accepted)

[Hu Tao]

[*] Players are not inherently multitasking (and so may not submit more than one action per phase)
[*]

There is exactly one Godfather.

[*]

There are no Serial Killers

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These on the rules are important. If there is only 1 scum left then that'd mean godfather is the only left? But I'd rather keep it safe by assuming there is still 2 scum left

[Gypyx]

Yeah i mean that's good but my ego is sad and shattered

So where are you at right now? Any other reads you had?

You / Thomith are my 2 biggest townreads, kyouko a little bit too but i'm being careful cause i'm bad at reading big posts (bad attention span)

Can you explain these three reads further

Your play was very strongly protown through the entierty of day 2 (didn't read day 1) and i felt like you've asked a lot of very pertinent questions that would've been better left unsaid, especially consider that we now know katsuki / black as town

as for thomith i just don't see him making no attempt at leaving the fence he's on when his would be scumbuddy was in danger, like, it don't make no sense, i feel like his lack of proactivity also comes more from a town perspective rather than a struggle to look uninformed

kyouko is ~vibes~

[Thomith]

[*] Players are not inherently multitasking (and so may not submit more than one action per phase)
[*]

There is exactly one Godfather.

[*]

There are no Serial Killers

.

These on the rules are important. If there is only 1 scum left then that'd mean godfather is the only left? But I'd rather keep it safe by assuming there is still 2 scum left

For sure let's be safe and assume 2, just something I wanted to point out.
Godfather + whatever the hell that inventor is seems like a fair bit of power, so I'd probably assume a 3rd wolf if it exists is probably a Goon?

[Hu Tao]

So it's possible that black or katsuki gave the shot to scum? Or am I lost here

So pulling it apart right now I guess

He was a Werewolf lazy weak compulsive Inventor (compulsive combined Vigilante Bodyguard x2, compulsive combined Vigilante Hider x2, compulsive strongwilled weak Vigilante).


Forced to give an invention, will die if they target a wolf. So they are forced to give vig guns to the Town.

Vigilante Bodyguard is pretty much a suicide charge if I am reading this right. Whoever they give the gun to has to shoot and kill themselves.
The hider I think kills their target and themselves. So two deaths
The other one is a vigilante that hits nmw but also dies if they shoot a wolf.

I'm assuming the first then ?

[Gypyx]

does anyone know if Lazy gets disabled if there is a mafia and a traitor still alive?

[Hu Tao]

[*] Players are not inherently multitasking (and so may not submit more than one action per phase)
[*]

There is exactly one Godfather.

[*]

There are no Serial Killers

.

These on the rules are important. If there is only 1 scum left then that'd mean godfather is the only left? But I'd rather keep it safe by assuming there is still 2 scum left

For sure let's be safe and assume 2, just something I wanted to point out.
Godfather + whatever the hell that inventor is seems like a fair bit of power, so I'd probably assume a 3rd wolf if it exists is probably a Goon?

Probably

[Thomith]

Is there a world where scums only way of killing would be through the inventor, or would that not be normal?

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm assuming the first then ?

It could be any of them really but probably the first one

[Hu Tao]

Is there a world where scums only way of killing would be through the inventor, or would that not be normal?

It says in their role pm they can maul based on dann's

[JacksonVirgo]

Is there a world where scums only way of killing would be through the inventor, or would that not be normal?

They would all need to be compulsive PRs but I believe it should be allowed for a complex

[Thomith]

Is there a world where scums only way of killing would be through the inventor, or would that not be normal?

Nevermind read danns role PM, this isn't the case.

P-edit: yeah, that

[Gypyx]

anyways ummm where are we going with all of this setup spec

i guess it's fun but there's just no point right now

[Thomith]

I'm more trying to figure out wtf is going on with the setup for my own curiosity.

Also trying to figure out how Black/Katsuki died to see if we can figure out motivations.

I can stop if we feel its not productive though.

[Hu Tao]

I still think we vote out gamma slot today

[Hu Tao]

I'm more trying to figure out wtf is going on with the setup for my own curiosity.

Also trying to figure out how Black/Katsuki died to see if we can figure out motivations.

I can stop if we feel its not productive though.

I think it's helpful

[JacksonVirgo]

I still think we vote out gamma slot today

I think there has to be a wolf in the ccs and gamma slots. Danns actions around their slots don't make sense otherwise

[davesaz]

At least we should only have one of these extra vigs, unless wolves had more than one inventor to start with.
N1: Dann gives level 1 inventor to town
N2: some townie gives whichever shot Dann chose to use to someone. Dann is already limmed so no more shots from that source.

We still have the missing N1 kill, and something else caused a 2nd N2 kill since neither of those deaths can be from one of the "inner" inventions yet. The earliest an inner invention can be used is N3.

Do not hammer until we have a good handle on what the recipient should do. Worst case is a 3 kill night and all could be town if the 2nd recipient is town, has the vig/hider, and targets town (killing their target and themself), plus a wolf kill.

[Thomith]

At least we should only have one of these extra vigs, unless wolves had more than one inventor to start with.
N1: Dann gives level 1 inventor to town
N2: some townie gives whichever shot Dann chose to use to someone. Dann is already limmed so no more shots from that source.

We still have the missing N1 kill, and something else caused a 2nd N2 kill since neither of those deaths can be from one of the "inner" inventions yet. The earliest an inner invention can be used is N3.

Do not hammer until we have a good handle on what the recipient should do. Worst case is a 3 kill night and all could be town if the 2nd recipient is town, has the vig/hider, and targets town (killing their target and themself), plus a wolf kill.

Where did you get the bolded from?

[JacksonVirgo]

The person that had the inventor would have acted last night, I don't know what you're on about N3 for

[Thomith]

The person that had the inventor would have acted last night, I don't know what you're on about N3 for

I think he is assuming the inventions have to be used on order?

[JacksonVirgo]

The person that had the inventor would have acted last night, I don't know what you're on about N3 for

I think he is assuming the inventions have to be used on order?

Even so, that makes no sense. They're all used the same