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Post Post #2175 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:11 pm

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N1 Dann gives an inventor shot.
N2 The inventor gives a vig shot.
N3 the vig has to use their shot.
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Post Post #2176 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:12 pm

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That's not how inventor works I don't think.
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Post Post #2177 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:13 pm

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Let's say I'm an inventor that can give out doctor shots.

Night 1: I give you a doctor shot
Night 2: you can use the doctor shot.

Because in this case Damn gives compulsive shots, the recipient HAS to use it Night 2
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Post Post #2178 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:13 pm

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Inventor gives a thing. The given thing is not used the same night it is given. If it were there would need to be 2 night deadlines, one to give it and another to use it.

Dann gives out inventor shots. Read the role card very carefully.
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Post Post #2179 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:15 pm

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In post 2178, davesaz wrote: Inventor gives a thing. The given thing is not used the same night it is given. If it were there would need to be 2 night deadlines, one to give it and another to use it.

Dann gives out inventor shots. Read the role card very carefully.
No it's just phrased very weirdly, but he doesn't give out inventor shots, i asked the mod about it for clarification
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Post Post #2180 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:16 pm

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In post 2178, davesaz wrote: Inventor gives a thing. The given thing is not used the same night it is given. If it were there would need to be 2 night deadlines, one to give it and another to use it.

Dann gives out inventor shots. Read the role card very carefully.
I'm not saying it gets used the same night given.
Night 1 he gave someone a shot thay was used Night 2.
He died day 2, so nothing else was given out, so none of his inventor things are being used Night 3
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Post Post #2181 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:29 pm

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In post 2175, davesaz wrote: N1 Dann gives an inventor shot.
N2 The inventor gives a vig shot.
N3 the vig has to use their shot.
It's not an vig-inventor-inventor
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Post Post #2182 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:29 pm

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In post 2178, davesaz wrote: Inventor gives a thing. The given thing is not used the same night it is given. If it were there would need to be 2 night deadlines, one to give it and another to use it.

Dann gives out inventor shots. Read the role card very carefully.
Yes. It's given N1, and then used N2. It can't be used N3 because the Inventor died before N2
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Post Post #2183 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:30 pm

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In post 2179, Gypyx wrote:
In post 2178, davesaz wrote: Inventor gives a thing. The given thing is not used the same night it is given. If it were there would need to be 2 night deadlines, one to give it and another to use it.

Dann gives out inventor shots. Read the role card very carefully.
No it's just phrased very weirdly, but he doesn't give out inventor shots, i asked the mod about it for clarification
@MOD: We'll need this to be answered in the thread. Does Dann's role give inventions that give the inner abilities, or the inner abilities directly?
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Post Post #2184 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:35 pm

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Dannflor was able to give out (compulsive combined Vig Bodyguard), (compulsive combined Vig Hider) and (compulsive strongwilled weak Vig) inventions. If a player received one such invention, they could (and in fact, had to) use it the following Night to shoot. [in your language, Dann inventions give one shot of the "inner" abilities directly]

In particular, they are
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Post Post #2185 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:38 pm

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In post 2154, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 4, biancospino wrote: [*] Players are not inherently multitasking (and so may not submit more than one action per phase)
[*]
There is exactly one Godfather.

[*]
There are no Serial Killers
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These on the rules are important. If there is only 1 scum left then that'd mean godfather is the only left? But I'd rather keep it safe by assuming there is still 2 scum left
The reason why I'm thinking 2 scum is even possible, because in effect, scum could technically get 2 kills a night on night 1 and 2, with Danns compulsive vig bg shots he gave out. The swing then gets even greater if the person who then gets given compulsive vig hider misfires.
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Post Post #2186 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:01 pm

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In post 2184, biancospino wrote:
Dannflor was able to give out (compulsive combined Vig Bodyguard), (compulsive combined Vig Hider) and (compulsive strongwilled weak Vig) inventions. If a player received one such invention, they could (and in fact, had to) use it the following Night to shoot. [in your language, Dann inventions give one shot of the "inner" abilities directly]

In particular, they are
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I believe these break rules of normal.
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Post Post #2187 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:40 pm

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In post 2183, davesaz wrote:
In post 2179, Gypyx wrote:
In post 2178, davesaz wrote: Inventor gives a thing. The given thing is not used the same night it is given. If it were there would need to be 2 night deadlines, one to give it and another to use it.

Dann gives out inventor shots. Read the role card very carefully.
No it's just phrased very weirdly, but he doesn't give out inventor shots, i asked the mod about it for clarification
@MOD: We'll need this to be answered in the thread. Does Dann's role give inventions that give the inner abilities, or the inner abilities directly?
this just occured to me but +town points for everyone who misundersteanding dannfloor's role since his scumbuddies would probably already have received an explaination
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Post Post #2188 (ISO) » Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:59 pm

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In post 2186, Enchant wrote:
In post 2184, biancospino wrote:
Dannflor was able to give out (compulsive combined Vig Bodyguard), (compulsive combined Vig Hider) and (compulsive strongwilled weak Vig) inventions. If a player received one such invention, they could (and in fact, had to) use it the following Night to shoot. [in your language, Dann inventions give one shot of the "inner" abilities directly]

In particular, they are
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I believe these break rules of normal.
How so? There's three different types of normals now, this is a complex
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Post Post #2189 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:00 am

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We wouldn't be playing it if it broke rules of normals
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Post Post #2190 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:01 am

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In post 2187, Gypyx wrote: this just occured to me but +town points for everyone who misundersteanding dannfloor's role since his scumbuddies would probably already have received an explaination
OR, scum don't wanna seem like they know too much and thus are faking confusion
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Post Post #2191 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:02 am

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In post 2190, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2187, Gypyx wrote: this just occured to me but +town points for everyone who misundersteanding dannfloor's role since his scumbuddies would probably already have received an explaination
OR, scum don't wanna seem like they know too much and thus are faking confusion
Hence the "+town points" and not "OK SO EVERYONE WHO MADE A SINGLE MISTAKE IS TOWN"

Especially think dave's misundersteanding is towny
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Post Post #2192 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:04 am

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In post 2191, Gypyx wrote:
In post 2190, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2187, Gypyx wrote: this just occured to me but +town points for everyone who misundersteanding dannfloor's role since his scumbuddies would probably already have received an explaination
OR, scum don't wanna seem like they know too much and thus are faking confusion
Hence the "+town points" and not "OK SO EVERYONE WHO MADE A SINGLE MISTAKE IS TOWN"

Especially think dave's misundersteanding is towny
I agree with davesaz reaction/confusion seeming genuine.
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Post Post #2193 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:16 am

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Sure, if you were talking about Dave then I agree
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Post Post #2194 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:50 am

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Post Post #2195 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:13 am

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In post 2135, Gypyx wrote: also that's a rough night for me, black and katsuki kinda were my top SR's
Actually, can you explain why you SR the two of them?
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Post Post #2196 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:15 am

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In post 2155, Gypyx wrote: felt like you've asked a lot of very pertinent questions that would've been better left unsaid
Do you have any examples off the top of your head?
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Post Post #2197 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:15 am

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In post 2185, Thomith wrote:
In post 2154, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 4, biancospino wrote: [*] Players are not inherently multitasking (and so may not submit more than one action per phase)
[*]
There is exactly one Godfather.

[*]
There are no Serial Killers
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These on the rules are important. If there is only 1 scum left then that'd mean godfather is the only left? But I'd rather keep it safe by assuming there is still 2 scum left
The reason why I'm thinking 2 scum is even possible, because in effect, scum could technically get 2 kills a night on night 1 and 2, with Danns compulsive vig bg shots he gave out. The swing then gets even greater if the person who then gets given compulsive vig hider misfires.
Is there a possible traitor or no
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Post Post #2198 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:15 am

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In post 2187, Gypyx wrote:
In post 2183, davesaz wrote:
In post 2179, Gypyx wrote:
In post 2178, davesaz wrote: Inventor gives a thing. The given thing is not used the same night it is given. If it were there would need to be 2 night deadlines, one to give it and another to use it.

Dann gives out inventor shots. Read the role card very carefully.
No it's just phrased very weirdly, but he doesn't give out inventor shots, i asked the mod about it for clarification
@MOD: We'll need this to be answered in the thread. Does Dann's role give inventions that give the inner abilities, or the inner abilities directly?
this just occured to me but +town points for everyone who misundersteanding dannfloor's role since his scumbuddies would probably already have received an explaination
Not necessarily could put on an act
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Post Post #2199 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:17 am

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In post 2197, Hu Tao wrote: Is there a possible traitor or no
There isn't anything that would say there couldn't be
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