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[Pavowski]

Dragon would have no killed two nights in a row if scum here

Yep, he did it in this game that I keep referencing. And he also called me town super early that game when I hadn't done much, similar to what he did with Hu this game

I'm trying to decide if scum!Dragon would pull the same stunt in games that are so close together

Did it work in that game?

[Black]

139 is pinging me. Specifically, Dragon mentioning that HPE has three scum posts already, while also calling Hu town when she hadn't even done anything at that point. Seems like an informed perspective

VOTE: Dragon

That has been Dragon with Hu Tao the whole game. They did it with Purple as well.

That's concerning

[Black]

Dragon would have no killed two nights in a row if scum here

Yep, he did it in this game that I keep referencing. And he also called me town super early that game when I hadn't done much, similar to what he did with Hu this game

I'm trying to decide if scum!Dragon would pull the same stunt in games that are so close together

Did it work in that game?

Yeah. I ended up throwing by casing everyone but Dragon, and led town down the wrong path a couple times. He was kinda lurky towards the end and there were scummier options from my POV so he snuck out the win

[DragonEater70]

@Purple - join Hu tao with us.

Purple don't let them pressure you. What are your reads?

I remember the time when Purple's only vote of the game was to hammer HPE when I was already gonna do it the next morning

That was neat

It was mostly because you said you were going to do it, and it was very clear that hpe scum
Right now this is less the case for me anyway

Are you voting anyone currently?

not really
maybe tomorrow, We have at least four days, and that's something more impactful than just talking

I do generally support voting for hu tao

Do something, Purple. Do any of these things.

At the moment my thought is that you are probably a town, I don't really see a reason for you to act like that if you are scum then, it works out

same for dragon, But less because of the part of the role and because it really makes sense to me that if he was scum he wouldn't kill to pretend to be a jailkeeper (or in general, for that matter)

random nurse leaning to town, I don't have a specific problem with voting for him because some of the things annoy me a bit, but not my preference and it would be a bit unwise so no

I have no idea about gamma, so nothing
I guess that more town then scum

I have no idea about gera either because I don't understand the logic behind their actions neither as scum nor as town but less neutral than gamma

hu tao makes sense as scum, not 100% sure, I will re-read things she wrote later


On another topic, how did you quote more than one thing?
Sorry if something here is written weird

Questions because Flavor is not seeing a thought process from you and honestly I am not either:

Do you think it makes sense that scum would kill Flavor twice? Who would scum be for that to happen?

Why does Hu Tao makes sense as scum for you?

Why doesn't Pav make sense as scum to you?

Maybe? I wouldn't try to kill him in the first place, but it makes sense that if someone saves him once, he won't have protection again
It's kinda risky, and there were other players to kill, so I wouldn't count on it

Mostly by vibe, gamma town, cw/random nurse scum, you scum, Gera can be both, as scum they will probably let whoever is with them to decide

I'm pretty sure I've already said somewhere why I think that way

I don't know how he plays scum, so maybe I'm wrong about that

but the situation as it is, (sort of) good for scum, maybe except for the part where he have a lot of votes on him

i don't see a reason for him to try to change it, assuming he is scum. Also trying to make the game less stuck, not really effective and i don't think thats make sense for scum

That doesn't answer my question. I asked who it would make sense to Kill Flavor twice, and who it wouldn't make sense to kill him twice.

Can you say it again?

Can you elaborate?

[DragonEater70]

OMG hi Black!

[Black]

Dragon also bussed his teammate gob D1 in that game. Doesn't look like he did that hear but based on the one post I read of his it seems like he could have been setting up a bus position with his HPE read

[Black]

Here*

[Black]

OMG hi Black!

Hi

Are you scum?

[DragonEater70]

Black stop scumreading me for "TMI". It's never TMI (see Don't Fall in the Volcano).

Pedit: no I'm not scum this time

Also my TR on Hu Tao is partly based on that game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Dragon also bussed his teammate gob D1 in that game. Doesn't look like he did that hear but based on the one post I read of his it seems like he could have been setting up a bus position with his HPE read

I actually specifically called Dragon for bussing HPE earlier, both on Day 1 when he moved off of HPE when it gained traction, and on Day 3 when he vote sat early. He stopped me from vigging HPE (he had no like true way of knowing, but like…), and by HPE’s play, that one knew they were the fade yesterday.

So it’s like…not impossible.

I do unfortunately see a lot of similarities in the two games…

And I absolutely hate that 2 shot JK was the claim in both games.

But Hu Tao and Geraint were both in that game as well, so weird play if scum.

[DragonEater70]

Flavor is confirmed vigilante.
Dragoneater has claimed JK, and claimed targeting Flavor last 2 nights. No kills last two nights.
Everybody else has claimed vanilla.

Wait really

Dragon fake claimed JK and also no-killed in a game like a month ago

Dragon are you seriously trying that trick again

The fact that I did it a month ago is exactly why I wouldn't be doing it this game if I were scum. It'd be too obvious, and I don't play scum that way.

[Flavor Leaf]

All these fools would kill me twice in a row when I really think about it

[Black]

Another scum post

Dragon I'm having a really hard time believing your scumread on HPE was natural. This was the third post of HPE's you called scummy, and it only had 4 posts

Seems informed to me. Your instinct isn't this good

[Flavor Leaf]

This sucks because Black is vindicating my entire game with her posts here.

[Pavowski]

All these fools would kill me twice in a row when I really think about it

But if there's cop/vig/jk like .... Surely scum have a RB or an unblockable kill or ... something?

[DragonEater70]

Another scum post

Dragon I'm having a really hard time believing your scumread on HPE was natural. This was the third post of HPE's you called scummy, and it only had 4 posts

Seems informed to me. Your instinct isn't this good

What if ir is? Or Alternatively, what if it was just luck?

Also you should keep in mind I had just played a game with scum!HPE like 2 months ago and I felt the vibe of these posts was super similar to that one.

[Black]

I actually specifically called Dragon for bussing HPE earlier, both on Day 1 when he moved off of HPE when it gained traction, and on Day 3 when he vote sat early. He stopped me from vigging HPE (he had no like true way of knowing, but like…), and by HPE’s play, that one knew they were the fade yesterday

Yeah I think this is scum Dragon tbh. The more I hear the more I want to just flip this.

But Hu Tao and Geraint were both in that game as well, so weird play if scum

I agree here though which gives me doubt, but the whole bussing possiblity feels awful. I really think Dragon's early scumread of HPE feels unnatural

[Black]

Another scum post

Dragon I'm having a really hard time believing your scumread on HPE was natural. This was the third post of HPE's you called scummy, and it only had 4 posts

Seems informed to me. Your instinct isn't this good

What if ir is? Or Alternatively, what if it was just luck?

Also you should keep in mind I had just played a game with scum!HPE like 2 months ago and I felt the vibe of these posts was super similar to that one.

Can you elaborate on this vibe

[DragonEater70]

BTW

Flavor, the reason I haven't been very excited to sheep you onto Hu Tao has to do with seeing you try to push town!Tao in the other game. So with no disrespect meant, I am aware of the possibility that you have a wrong meta read on her.

[DragonEater70]

Another scum post

Dragon I'm having a really hard time believing your scumread on HPE was natural. This was the third post of HPE's you called scummy, and it only had 4 posts

Seems informed to me. Your instinct isn't this good

What if ir is? Or Alternatively, what if it was just luck?

Also you should keep in mind I had just played a game with scum!HPE like 2 months ago and I felt the vibe of these posts was super similar to that one.

Can you elaborate on this vibe

I have no idea how you "elaborate on vibes".

It just felt like the same general tone of posting as that scum game.

[DragonEater70]

BTW

Flavor, the reason I haven't been very excited to sheep you onto Hu Tao has to do with seeing you try to push town!Tao in the other game. So with no disrespect meant, I am aware of the possibility that you

may

have a wrong meta read on her.

EBWOP

[DragonEater70]

I actually specifically called Dragon for bussing HPE earlier, both on Day 1 when he moved off of HPE when it gained traction, and on Day 3 when he vote sat early. He stopped me from vigging HPE (he had no like true way of knowing, but like…), and by HPE’s play, that one knew they were the fade yesterday

Yeah I think this is scum Dragon tbh. The more I hear the more I want to just flip this.

But Hu Tao and Geraint were both in that game as well, so weird play if scum

I agree here though which gives me doubt, but the whole bussing possiblity feels awful. I really think Dragon's early scumread of HPE feels unnatural

May I remind you again that the last time you SR'd me for TMI you were wrong? K.

I just have strong reads for weak reasons as town.

[DragonEater70]

You'll also notice I unvoted HPE, because I acknowledged it was a weak reason, then decided to revote because my gut told me it was correct.

[DragonEater70]

Dragon would have no killed two nights in a row if scum here

Yep, he did it in this game that I keep referencing. And he also called me town super early that game when I hadn't done much, similar to what he did with Hu this game

I'm trying to decide if scum!Dragon would pull the same stunt in games that are so close together

Did it work in that game?

Yes, but my play this game andthat game had been vastly different. In that one I wasn't even efforting.

[Flavor Leaf]

BTW

Flavor, the reason I haven't been very excited to sheep you onto Hu Tao has to do with seeing you try to push town!Tao in the other game. So with no disrespect meant, I am aware of the possibility that you have a wrong meta read on her.

I am confidently town reading Hu Tao right now