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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:14 am

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Enchant seems like they are goofing around or something/not playing to their wincon. I can't get a read on them either way. There is an argument for a policy lim here but I would prefer something more substantial.
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:25 am

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In post 1075, DeltaWave wrote: Enchant seems like they are goofing around or something/not playing to their wincon.
How Daring you.

Accuse me of that. I am saving my mind. If i vote evildoer, my mission is complete. You should do so too.
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:26 am

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In post 1074, Enchant wrote:
You only lose when you give up.
Common misconception, you also lose when you lose
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:28 am

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In post 1077, Gypyx wrote:
In post 1074, Enchant wrote:
You only lose when you give up.
Common misconception, you also lose when you lose

There's letters in these words.
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:45 pm

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In post 1078, Enchant wrote:
In post 1077, Gypyx wrote:
In post 1074, Enchant wrote:
You only lose when you give up.
Common misconception, you also lose when you lose

There's letters in these words.
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:52 pm

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Also, I didn't vote earlier because I thought Enchant had more votes than they actually do and distracted by video games instead of checking.
VOTE: Enchant
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:05 pm

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Comical replaces Macho Man Randy Passion.
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:07 pm

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Finally, worthy opponent.
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:06 pm

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I'm okay with just voting enchant
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:54 pm

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In post 1078, Enchant wrote:
In post 1077, Gypyx wrote:
In post 1074, Enchant wrote:
You only lose when you give up.
Common misconception, you also lose when you lose

There's letters in these words.
After I made the tautology joke I thought "is this telling us there's a breadcrumb?" and spent like 15 minutes reading through Enchant and Alianna's posts like I'm a character from a shitty Dan Brown novel.
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:28 pm

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In post 1065, Naerys wrote: Also Alianna slot can be either LHF or scum. I dont mind sorting Alianna first, but then we should look at Upwards.
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:39 pm

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In post 1071, Laplacian wrote:
In post 1053, Upwards wrote: Btw, Laplacian, I meant to ask you something that I got sidetracked from: What’s wrong with my chess metaphor that you criticized in and ? And for that matter, what’s your chess Elo that you can make that judgement?
First, this is a social, hidden-information, 13 player, asymmetric game. A comparison to an entirely mechanical, open-information, 2 player, symmetric game will always be flawed.

Second, dubious sacrifice generally implies that the sacrifice is bad; if it was good you'd call it a sound sacrifice. However, sacrificing a scum buddy can definitely pay off if you get enough hard allies. Since the game is social, a bluff is way more powerful here than in chess where you can rigorously analyze some lines to check if a sacrifice actually pays off. If I had to make a chess comparison, hardbussing a scum buddy for clout early would be the Halloween Gambit - where you sac a knight move 4 for crazy strategic presence unless the opponents play perfectly.

And I'm about 1500. Not amazing by any means, but enough that the chess comparison pinged me.
Ok this is an actually good explanation but doesn’t "dubios" come from "doubt"? I figured it means it’s very unclear and probably unlikely to be a good play but not outright impossible.
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:41 pm

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In post 1072, Naerys wrote: VOTE: Enchant
green Enchant - look at Upwards, Prince of Paterson
Red Enchant - look at lucca - sat at Upwards basically whole D1, only at the end switche dto Laplacian
How do I read this post?
"Upwards atp would have to be really good as scum to be fooling me, I think." ~ Gamma Emerald

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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:59 pm

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In post 1083, Hu Tao wrote: I'm okay with just voting enchant
then vote bestie
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:00 pm

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In post 1085, Upwards wrote:
In post 1065, Naerys wrote: Also Alianna slot can be either LHF or scum. I dont mind sorting Alianna first, but then we should look at Upwards.
What is LHF?
Low Hanging Fruit, it's when a townie is not playing really well while not doing anything super scummy, such as they're still an easy vote to make
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:02 pm

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In post 1087, Upwards wrote:
In post 1072, Naerys wrote: VOTE: Enchant
green Enchant - look at Upwards, Prince of Paterson
Red Enchant - look at lucca - sat at Upwards basically whole D1, only at the end switche dto Laplacian
How do I read this post?
Enchant flips town (green) our next suspects are Upwards / PoP

Enchant flips scum (red) our next suspect is Lucca
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:51 pm

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Alright, thank you.

What I’d like to see now is:

An explanation from Hu Tao about Gamma E-1

A reply from Comical to my

A reply from Enchant to PoPs .

A reply from Delta to my
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:15 am

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I've already explained that. I asked Margot why she wanted to defend GE so badly because Margot seemed convinced 100% that GE would flip town. That was a very sus level of certainty on D1. Of course, that's because Margot knew exactly how GE was going to flip. If Margot wasn't vigged I would have come out of the gate on D2 with this.

The remaining scum are PoP and Upwards as far as I'm concerned. Enchant may be scum but I can't tell because of how they're playing. It's a decent elim from a policy perspective but if you want to catch scum you need to vote PoP or Upwards.
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:46 am

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I am side of good.

I just don't care to lick your shoes, as i am nor your servant. You also shouldn't lick my shoes, but i won't stop you.
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:23 am

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In post 1091, Upwards wrote: Alright, thank you.

What I’d like to see now is:

An explanation from Hu Tao about Gamma E-1

A reply from Comical to my

A reply from Enchant to PoPs .

A reply from Delta to my
What about E-1?
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:23 am

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VOTE: enchant
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:46 am

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that's E-1
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:46 am

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Votecount 2.06

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2024-01-22 03:32:58).
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Enchant (5):
Prince of Paterson, Gypyx, Naerys, Laplacian, Hu Tao
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Prince of Paterson (1):
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Mucho Man Randy Passion (1):
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Upwards, lucca261

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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:53 am

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In post 1092, DeltaWave wrote: I've already explained that. I asked Margot why she wanted to defend GE so badly because Margot seemed convinced 100% that GE would flip town. That was a very sus level of certainty on D1. Of course, that's because Margot knew exactly how GE was going to flip. If Margot wasn't vigged I would have come out of the gate on D2 with this.

The remaining scum are PoP and Upwards as far as I'm concerned. Enchant may be scum but I can't tell because of how they're playing. It's a decent elim from a policy perspective but if you want to catch scum you need to vote PoP or Upwards.
So in that case shouldn’t you have dropped your Gamma vote like you had announced previously?

And I ask again, Why are me and PoP Scum and why would Enchant be a decent elim if you’re so sure of that?
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:54 am

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In post 1093, Enchant wrote:
I am side of good.

I just don't care to lick your shoes, as i am nor your servant. You also shouldn't lick my shoes, but i won't stop you.
That’s funny, but also nonsense. How about a real reply?
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