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Post Post #3300 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:33 pm

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In post 3294, geraintm wrote:
In post 3292, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m in a middle ground where it’s either a really good sign Black paired up with my Hu Tao/Dragon from before or a really bad sign.

Hu Tao/Dragon have been unnaturally linked like that since early game, and a lot of times it felt too much to be S/S, but i have thought about the ‘do they do that as scum here?’

UNVOTE: Geraint

I gotta take some time to think
I am fairly certain if I was scum you would have got that from me by now. The fact you haven't means (to me) that you know I am not and are just confused
This is like the most cromulent thing Gera has posted in this entire game
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Post Post #3301 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:33 pm

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Where you leaning Pav?
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Post Post #3302 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:36 pm

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God. I see like, all the cases at this point, lol.

I like to think I was able to make some kind of meaning out of my HPE readback.

From that I leaned toward a team of Hu Tao / Purple. I feel a lot less confident it's Hu Tao than that it's Purple.

CW/Nurse's clean as can be from HPE's iso. I think Gera's pretty good. DE also feels ok. Gamma/Black's a question mark.

Both in Purple / Gamma/Black / Gera if I'm gonna trust my sudden gut read on Hu Tao?

So ... ugh I hate it for the less info but I might be back to wanting Purple for today, on a personal level to test my read of HPE if nothing else
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Post Post #3303 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:43 pm

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In post 3302, Pavowski wrote: God. I see like, all the cases at this point, lol.

I like to think I was able to make some kind of meaning out of my HPE readback.

From that I leaned toward a team of Hu Tao / Purple. I feel a lot less confident it's Hu Tao than that it's Purple.

CW/Nurse's clean as can be from HPE's iso. I think Gera's pretty good. DE also feels ok. Gamma/Black's a question mark.

Both in Purple / Gamma/Black / Gera if I'm gonna trust my sudden gut read on Hu Tao?

So ... ugh I hate it for the less info but I might be back to wanting Purple for today, on a personal level to test my read of HPE if nothing else
Weeeoooooooow you can feel my grammar deteriorating in real time in that last sentence. I feel strongest about my Purple vote and would vote there first, even though a flip like Gamma or Dragon gives us way more info.
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Post Post #3304 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:06 pm

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I don’t think I see Purple Scum.
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Post Post #3305 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:14 pm

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In post 3304, Flavor Leaf wrote: I don’t think I see Purple Scum.
I mean I'm still kind of under the assumption we've got 1 lurker and 1 active scummo, which meant one of cw/Nurse, Purple, Gera and one of Hu Tao, Dragon, Gamma

I think Purple is the most likely out of Nurse/Purple/Gera set
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Post Post #3306 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:18 pm

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Maybe I do. They hammered HPE as their only vote, right?

Hmm.

My issue with Purple right now is that I still think Dragon could be the partner, so a Purple scum flip leaves us in Dragon vs Black.

I think I’m leaning fading Black, shooting Purple, Dragon jails me.

If I die AND a kill goes through, Dragon is scum.

I think forcing scum to kill in Dragon/Hu Tao/Geraint/Pav/CW will give us a lot.

Worst case scenario, you go into tomorrow 4-2 without Black and I in the game.

Damn, that’s not good if Dragon is scum.

Damn. This is tough.

I think Dragon jails me, if I die and a kill doesn’t go through, then it’s always Dragon.

I think we go Black for info/higher chance of being scum.

If Black is scum, Black replaced into a scum slot and is admirable for the work they put in this deep in the game.
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Post Post #3307 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:19 pm

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In post 3291, Black wrote: Maybe it's just Dragon/Hu. I'm not really liking her shading me here after a couple of people have already shown interest in voting for me
How is it shading if I'm telling you this directly?
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Post Post #3308 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:21 pm

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In post 3305, Pavowski wrote:
In post 3304, Flavor Leaf wrote: I don’t think I see Purple Scum.
I mean I'm still kind of under the assumption we've got 1 lurker and 1 active scummo, which meant one of cw/Nurse, Purple, Gera and one of Hu Tao, Dragon, Gamma

I think Purple is the most likely out of Nurse/Purple/Gera set
I can unfortunately see a Gamma/Pav world, and that seems to be my only blind spot with you.

It could be Gamma/Purpls, Gamma/Geraint, i just think going Purple isn’t the play here. They’re not super active, i don’t think they can talk their way out of it if they are the last scum.

VOTE: Black

I’m leaning here.

If she’s town, I’m shooting Dragon, so that basically means I always live and get jailed. Don’t think scum have Juggernaut shot still or they’d have used. I’m betting they used on Thomith.

HPE/Joyboy/Purple team. I may look back and see if that doesn’t work
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Post Post #3309 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:21 pm

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In post 3297, Black wrote: Hu Tao making several posts about how she has anti-partner equity with HPE doesn't feel good. She seems pretty defensive in those posts, like she felt good about not being linked to HPE and then suddenly got accused of it
How convenient for you to leave out the reasoning. It's because I was asked so here specifically
In post 3164, Pavowski wrote:
In post 3163, Hu Tao wrote: Pav/Gamma/Gera 2/3 is scum.

If we vote out in them we win
In post 3162, Hu Tao wrote: Pav might be scum, because I did try to push hpe
I did all that work and this is all you got?

I'm not doing another ISO dive, please linky linky your HPE push
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Post Post #3310 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:22 pm

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In post 3307, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3291, Black wrote: Maybe it's just Dragon/Hu. I'm not really liking her shading me here after a couple of people have already shown interest in voting for me
How is it shading if I'm telling you this directly?
Because you're trying to make me look bad for something that isn't scummy. It doesn't matter if you tell me directly or say it in passing. It's shade
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #3311 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:24 pm

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In post 3306, Flavor Leaf wrote: Maybe I do. They hammered HPE as their only vote, right?

Hmm.

My issue with Purple right now is that I still think Dragon could be the partner, so a Purple scum flip leaves us in Dragon vs Black.

I think I’m leaning fading Black, shooting Purple, Dragon jails me.

If I die AND a kill goes through, Dragon is scum.

I think forcing scum to kill in Dragon/Hu Tao/Geraint/Pav/CW will give us a lot.

Worst case scenario, you go into tomorrow 4-2 without Black and I in the game.

Damn, that’s not good if Dragon is scum.

Damn. This is tough.

I think Dragon jails me, if I die and a kill doesn’t go through, then it’s always Dragon.

I think we go Black for info/higher chance of being scum.

If Black is scum, Black replaced into a scum slot and is admirable for the work they put in this deep in the game.
If we hit scum today, we get at least d5 and d6, time enough to yeet both Dragon and Black if we have to
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Post Post #3312 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:24 pm

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VOTE: Black

Yeah I think black is just scum
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Post Post #3313 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:25 pm

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Yeah, but we’re screwed if Purple flips town and in the same position basically as today.
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Post Post #3314 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:25 pm

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In post 3311, Pavowski wrote:
In post 3306, Flavor Leaf wrote: Maybe I do. They hammered HPE as their only vote, right?

Hmm.

My issue with Purple right now is that I still think Dragon could be the partner, so a Purple scum flip leaves us in Dragon vs Black.

I think I’m leaning fading Black, shooting Purple, Dragon jails me.

If I die AND a kill goes through, Dragon is scum.

I think forcing scum to kill in Dragon/Hu Tao/Geraint/Pav/CW will give us a lot.

Worst case scenario, you go into tomorrow 4-2 without Black and I in the game.

Damn, that’s not good if Dragon is scum.

Damn. This is tough.

I think Dragon jails me, if I die and a kill doesn’t go through, then it’s always Dragon.

I think we go Black for info/higher chance of being scum.

If Black is scum, Black replaced into a scum slot and is admirable for the work they put in this deep in the game.
If we hit scum today, we get at least d5 and d6, time enough to yeet both Dragon and Black if we have to
And if tomorrow somehow turns up another no-kill night then no it isn't because I will literally die and become the death
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Post Post #3315 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:26 pm

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I don’t think you did over CW.
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Post Post #3316 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:26 pm

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Die*
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Post Post #3317 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:26 pm

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In post 3312, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Black

Yeah I think black is just scum
Can you answer
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Post Post #3318 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:26 pm

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In post 3313, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yeah, but we’re screwed if Purple flips town and in the same position basically as today.
Factual and frightening
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Post Post #3319 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:26 pm

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If tomorrow is a no kill night it's good for us. Regardless of flip here
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Post Post #3320 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:27 pm

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In post 3315, Flavor Leaf wrote: I don’t think you did over CW.
Look at the damn vote count, I don't know if I ever die
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Post Post #3321 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:28 pm

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In post 3317, Black wrote:
In post 3312, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Black

Yeah I think black is just scum
Can you answer
He's just more engaged and energetic as town. As scum he's frozen, more disconnected from the game. It's like the one game he was scum and fake claimed jk, I called him scum day 1 there. I'm pretty confident in meta reading dragon
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Post Post #3322 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:31 pm

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In post 3321, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3317, Black wrote:
In post 3312, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Black

Yeah I think black is just scum
Can you answer
He's just more engaged and energetic as town. As scum he's frozen, more disconnected from the game. It's like the one game he was scum and fake claimed jk, I called him scum day 1 there. I'm pretty confident in meta reading dragon
Besides Flavorless Hell what other scum games have you read of his?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #3323 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:32 pm

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Also are you townreading Dragon for anything other than your meta read?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #3324 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:37 pm

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In post 3322, Black wrote:
In post 3321, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3317, Black wrote:
In post 3312, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Black

Yeah I think black is just scum
Can you answer
He's just more engaged and energetic as town. As scum he's frozen, more disconnected from the game. It's like the one game he was scum and fake claimed jk, I called him scum day 1 there. I'm pretty confident in meta reading dragon
Besides Flavorless Hell what other scum games have you read of his?
Not sure. But it's drastically different from the town ones

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