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Votecount 3-II

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to hammer, or 4 to decide for no execution.

Gypyx (1):

JacksonVirgo

Enchant (1):

Duelist Kage

Not Voting (6):

Hu Tao, Gypyx, davesaz, ssbm_Kyouko, Enchant, Thomith

notes

• The deadline is due in (expired on 2024-01-23 05:00:23).
  
• You can find the combined mod ISO here
  
• Replacing ssbm_Kyouko

[Thomith]

I'm a little confused as to why we are assuming scum have a backup?

[Gypyx]

Greetings, I am your new Gamma! My lucky number is 19, I like long walks in mysterious forests, and voting scum.

VOTE: Enchant

I agree that it is quite likely to be a 2-person scum team with this vig-happy setup and the talk from Dragon at the start of the game.

And I have no idea why dave is talking like there must be a backup. A backup in addition to the backup shot we see in the Katsuki flip? What does the mod have to do with any of it? I am confused.

Actually that's kinda on point i think, dragon strikes me as the kind of person who would pull this kind of stuff

anyways, did you perhaps have more theories to entertain us with duelist? this game certainely feels like we're at a standstill lol

[davesaz]

I'm a little confused as to why we are assuming scum have a backup?

Did you miss any sections of posts?

[Enchant]

In fact i also don't get it.

[Duelist Kage]

Greetings, I am your new Gamma! My lucky number is 19, I like long walks in mysterious forests, and voting scum.

VOTE: Enchant

I agree that it is quite likely to be a 2-person scum team with this vig-happy setup and the talk from Dragon at the start of the game.

And I have no idea why dave is talking like there must be a backup. A backup in addition to the backup shot we see in the Katsuki flip? What does the mod have to do with any of it? I am confused.

Actually that's kinda on point i think, dragon strikes me as the kind of person who would pull this kind of stuff

anyways, did you perhaps have more theories to entertain us with duelist? this game certainely feels like we're at a standstill lol

Well maybe, I've been trying to work up a theory on what's going on with night actions but I need to read some more to see if my newest suspicion has something to it. I've only read portions of the game and that led me to suspect Black, so I'm trying to reassess.

The replacement of kyouko doesn't help.

[Duelist Kage]

I'm a little confused as to why we are assuming scum have a backup?

Did you miss any sections of posts?

Well that's a little rude. If you're making people read between the lines you can't really blame them for not understanding. I'm glad you said as much as you did, that info is helping me form a new theory, but I'm not sure why you aren't just saying it.

[Thomith]

I'm a little confused as to why we are assuming scum have a backup?

Did you miss any sections of posts?

Oh. I think I understand.

[davesaz]

I wanted to see if anyone seemed to have TMI first.

I received an invention on Dann's list after Dann was limmed.
Therefore there is a backup, and it wasn't Katsuki for the reason already mentioned.

[Duelist Kage]

Okay, I'll say a little more. I'm operating on the theory that Black or Katsuki shot the other. Does anyone want to claim giving them a gun? It would be helpful to know if that came from town rather than Dragon's invention.

[Duelist Kage]

N1: Dragon gives doublekill to Black or Katsuki + Second scum tries to make night kill but is blocked
N2: Black and Katsuki die from the invention + Second scum gives dave the other doublekill

I keep forgetting it's not inherent multitasking, so yeah this makes perfect sense for a 2 scum team.

The first invention not being claimed was throwing me off for a while, maybe there was concern we'd just vote them out because of it? Dunno.

[davesaz]

Before the scum flip we didn't know it was town only, maybe that's why it wasn't claimed?
Someone reacted pretty strongly to day 2 start. I don't remember who it was and won't be able to look for several hours at best.

[Hu Tao]

I wanted to see if anyone seemed to have TMI first.

I received an invention on Dann's list after Dann was limmed.
Therefore there is a backup, and it wasn't Katsuki for the reason already mentioned.

How is this possible?

[Hu Tao]

Wait. Katsuki's role says a non vanilla so it doesn't have to be town.

[Hu Tao]

Isn't it possible katsuki gave it to Dave and died?

[Enchant]

Katsuki not even inventor.

[Hu Tao]

Katsuki not even inventor.

She's a backup. So she could backup dann's inventor no?

[Enchant]

I totally use Informed first.

[Enchant]

But yeah i guess that possible.

But then Kaelyth killed directly by mafia, due multitasking and etc.

[Duelist Kage]

It's so nice to explain why none of that is possible and be ignored.

[Hu Tao]

It's so nice to explain why none of that is possible and be ignored.

Can you quote it

[davesaz]

From Katsuki flip:

one-shot activated UniversalBackup — At Night, but at most once during the game, you may activate this ability. Assuming no interference with your action, when a non-Vanilla player aligned with you dies this Night, you will inherit their role and lose this ability.

The backup is only for deaths the same night and same alignment.

[davesaz]

There could be another town backup, a scum backup, or another inventor ability that's essentially the same as what flipped.

[Duelist Kage]

I don't think a town backup gives you something that makes you make dire pronunciations about how town needs you to townread them. If they think you're scum they give you the first one, which just kills you. If they don't think you're scum, why the hell are they giving an invention to you? Give it to a scumread!

[Duelist Kage]

And I don't think this game has room for there to be a town version of that inventor! Why aren't there more deaths if there's been two?