Mini Normal 2323 [There is an Inventor] | FIN

[Alianna]

No VC, just want the pagetop.

[Hu Tao]

From Katsuki flip:

one-shot activated UniversalBackup — At Night, but at most once during the game, you may activate this ability. Assuming no interference with your action, when a non-Vanilla player aligned with you dies this Night, you will inherit their role and lose this ability.

The backup is only for deaths the same night and same alignment.

Ah I missed the aligned with you part

[Hu Tao]

And I don't think this game has room for there to be a town version of that inventor! Why aren't there more deaths if there's been two?

Yeah I'm confused how he got the shot so fast. Its possible that it's something scum did night 1 and that's why there was no kills? Rules says they can't multitask iirc

[biancospino]

Elements replaces ssbm_Kyouko, please welcome them!

[Duelist Kage]

And I don't think this game has room for there to be a town version of that inventor! Why aren't there more deaths if there's been two?

Yeah I'm confused how he got the shot so fast. Its possible that it's something scum did night 1 and that's why there was no kills? Rules says they can't multitask iirc

N1: Dragon gives doublekill to Black or Katsuki + Second scum tries to make night kill but is blocked
N2: Black and Katsuki die from the invention + Second scum gives dave the other doublekill

I keep forgetting it's not inherent multitasking, so yeah this makes perfect sense for a 2 scum team.

The first invention not being claimed was throwing me off for a while, maybe there was concern we'd just vote them out because of it? Dunno.

With the assumption the second one is a backup, of course.

[Duelist Kage]

Elements replaces ssbm_Kyouko, please welcome them!

Hello Elements! I think the remaining scum's N1 kill was blocked. You wouldn't happen to be able to provide info about a blocking action N1 to hopefully wrap up this game would you? Maybe even with a side of rolecop showing if the target was a backup?

[JacksonVirgo]

If the N1 maul was blocked, I believe somebody would have claimed it as that's pretty incriminating. Unless you also consider a protection as a block

[JacksonVirgo]

The first invention not being claimed was throwing me off for a while, maybe there was concern we'd just vote them out because of it? Dunno.

Or they could have thought it was from the Town inventor and just kept quiet about it. I believe the only ones they would have claimed would be the vig/bg one as it's just a suicide. The other two would probably be the two that wouldn't get claimed by a Town that thought it was from a Town so I'm seeing either of those as to what was given

[Duelist Kage]

If the N1 maul was blocked, I believe somebody would have claimed it as that's pretty incriminating. Unless you also consider a protection as a block

What if it was a jailkeep and so somewhat ambiguous whether it was the intended target or killer? Or just lack of certainty that it was their own action causing it rather than someone else's and not feeling the need to start outting roles like that yet?

[Duelist Kage]

The first invention not being claimed was throwing me off for a while, maybe there was concern we'd just vote them out because of it? Dunno.

Or they could have thought it was from the Town inventor and just kept quiet about it. I believe the only ones they would have claimed would be the vig/bg one as it's just a suicide. The other two would probably be the two that wouldn't get claimed by a Town that thought it was from a Town so I'm seeing either of those as to what was given

I don't see that it matters why it wasn't claimed at this point, it wasn't and that's that. I'd want to give town info about why people were going to be dying, maybe even get a roleblock on me to stop it, but apparently someone thought differently.

[JacksonVirgo]

If the N1 maul was blocked, I believe somebody would have claimed it as that's pretty incriminating. Unless you also consider a protection as a block

What if it was a jailkeep and so somewhat ambiguous whether it was the intended target or killer? Or just lack of certainty that it was their own action causing it rather than someone else's and not feeling the need to start outting roles like that yet?

I mean if it's a JK it's a little different and it requires a little NKA. It's 50/50 if you don't consider anything else but if you're targeting someone in the lower tier of the Town, chances are it's a blocked killer. If it's the higher tier of the Town, it's about 50/50 even so.

>50% chance is something I'd probably claim but that's me

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't see that it matters why it wasn't claimed at this point, it wasn't and that's that. I'd want to give town info about why people were going to be dying, maybe even get a roleblock on me to stop it, but apparently someone thought differently.

I don't think it matters either, same with the traitor talk

[Hu Tao]

I still want duelist today

[Duelist Kage]

No you don't.

[JacksonVirgo]

I still want duelist today

Then where's your vote?

[Gypyx]

Elements replaces ssbm_Kyouko, please welcome them!

Hello Elements! I think the remaining scum's N1 kill was blocked. You wouldn't happen to be able to provide info about a blocking action N1 to hopefully wrap up this game would you? Maybe even with a side of rolecop showing if the target was a backup?

Ok now you're just being fishy VOTE: Duelist

[Gypyx]

fishy as in rolefishing

[Elements]

yo yo yo (it's like a yo yo but moves in all three dimentions at once)
I'm not going to religiously read 93 pages so throw things at me to look at so I can catch up
or don't, up to you i guess

[Thomith]

yo yo yo (it's like a yo yo but moves in all three dimentions at once)
I'm not going to religiously read 93 pages so throw things at me to look at so I can catch up
or don't, up to you i guess

Hello Elements!

At the very least maybe ISO The Dann slot with the alive people to maybe find pairings?

[Thomith]

I feel like Day 2 was a big day, so might be a good idea to be familiar with it too.

[Elements]

yo yo yo (it's like a yo yo but moves in all three dimentions at once)
I'm not going to religiously read 93 pages so throw things at me to look at so I can catch up
or don't, up to you i guess

Hello Elements!

At the very least maybe ISO The Dann slot with the alive people to maybe find pairings?

sure, I've just woken up so I'll do waking up things first and then get on that

[Duelist Kage]

yo yo yo (it's like a yo yo but moves in all three dimentions at once)
I'm not going to religiously read 93 pages so throw things at me to look at so I can catch up
or don't, up to you i guess

I already did, see above.

Elements replaces ssbm_Kyouko, please welcome them!

Hello Elements! I think the remaining scum's N1 kill was blocked. You wouldn't happen to be able to provide info about a blocking action N1 to hopefully wrap up this game would you? Maybe even with a side of rolecop showing if the target was a backup?

Ok now you're just being fishy VOTE: Duelist

Do you

not

think that a missing N1 kill warrants any blocking actions being claimed here so we can narrow down the suspect pool? Or rolecop results showing someone is a backup? Please explain why, in that case. It's d3 with a caught scum and probably one remaining, so I don't see the wisdom in continuing secrecy of valuable information. We could even go full massclaim but that's quite possibly overkill given the situation. We definitely should be claiming these relevant pieces of information if we have them.

[Gypyx]

yo yo yo (it's like a yo yo but moves in all three dimentions at once)
I'm not going to religiously read 93 pages so throw things at me to look at so I can catch up
or don't, up to you i guess

I already did, see above.

Elements replaces ssbm_Kyouko, please welcome them!

Hello Elements! I think the remaining scum's N1 kill was blocked. You wouldn't happen to be able to provide info about a blocking action N1 to hopefully wrap up this game would you? Maybe even with a side of rolecop showing if the target was a backup?

Ok now you're just being fishy VOTE: Duelist

Do you

not

think that a missing N1 kill warrants any blocking actions being claimed here so we can narrow down the suspect pool? Or rolecop results showing someone is a backup? Please explain why, in that case. It's d3 with a caught scum and probably one remaining, so I don't see the wisdom in continuing secrecy of valuable information. We could even go full massclaim but that's quite possibly overkill given the situation. We definitely should be claiming these relevant pieces of information if we have them.

I think that while this is all true, the fact is that any hard guilty would probably get claimed naturally, trying to provoke it just risks leaking info to scum, besides, considering you're saying that to someone who's just coming into the game (aka : very limited perspective) it really feels like you're trying to provoke a slipup one way or another

[Duelist Kage]

Am I not being clear? I'm saying it to everyone. If you have info from n1 on a blocking action or rolecop of a backup, please claim it NOW.

[biancospino]

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