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Day 1 VC's

Spoiler:

1.1

Enchant (3):

Naerys

,

Gamma Emerald,

MargotRosa

Gamma Emerald (2): FuDuzn

, Enchant

Not Voting (13): Upwards, Hu Tao,

Comical

, lucca261, Laplacian, PoP, Gypyx, DeltaWave


1.2

Gamma Emerald (2): FuDuzn,

Enchant
Enchant (1):

Naerys

DeltaWave (1): Laplacian
Hu Tao (1): Gypyx

MargotRosa

(1):

Comical

Upwards (1): lucca261
Gypyx (1): Hu Tao

Not Voting (5): Upwards, PoP, DeltaWave,

MargotRosa

,

Gamma Emerald

1.3

MargotRosa

(5):

Comical

, Gypyx,

Gamma Emerald

, Laplacian,

FuDuzn

Upwards (2): lucca261, Hu Tao
Gamma Emerald (1): Enchant
Enchant (1):

Naerys

Not Voting (4): Upwards, PoP, DeltaWave,

MargotRosa

1.4

MargotRosa

(4):

Comical

, Gypyx,

Gamma Emerald

, Laplacian
Upwards (1): lucca261

Gamma Emerald

(1): Enchant
Enchant (1):

Naerys

lucca261 (1): FuDuzn

Not Voting (5): Upwards, PoP, DeltaWave,

MargotRosa

, Hu Tao


1.5

MargotRosa

(3):

Comical

, Gypyx, Laplacian
lucca261 (2):

FuDuzn

, DeltaWave
Upwards (1): lucca261

Gamma Emerald

(1): Enchant
Enchant (1):

Naerys

Comical

(1):

Gamma Emerald

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

Not Voting (3): Upwards, PoP, Hu Tao


1.6

MargotRosa

(4): Gypyx, Laplacian,

FuDuzn

, Hu Tao
Gamma Emerald (2): Enchant,

Comical

lucca261 (1): DeltaWave
Upwards (1): lucca261
Enchant (1):

Naerys

Comical

(1):

Gamma Emerald

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

Not Voting (2): Upwards, PoP


1.7

Gamma Emerald

(4): Enchant,

Comical

, Upwards,

Naerys

MargotRosa

(3): Gypyx, Laplacian,

FuDuzn

Upwards (1): lucca261

Comical

(1):

Gamma Emerald

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

DeltaWave (1): Hu Tao

Not Voting (2): PoP, DeltaWave


1.8

Gamma Emerald

(4): Enchant,

Comical

, Upwards,

Naerys

MargotRosa

(3): Gypyx, Laplacian,

FuDuzn

DeltaWave (2): Hu Tao, PoP
Upwards (1): lucca261

Comical

(1):

Gamma Emerald

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

Not Voting (1): DeltaWave


1.9

Gamma Emerald

(5): Enchant,

Comical

, Upwards,

Naerys

, DeltaWave

MargotRosa

(3): Gypyx, Laplacian,

FuDuzn

DeltaWave (2): Hu Tao, PoP
Upwards (1): lucca261

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

Naerys (1): Gamma Emerald

1.11

Gamma Emerald

(5): Enchant,

Comical

, Upwards,

Naerys

, DeltaWave

MargotRosa

(3): Gypyx, Laplacian,

FuDuzn

DeltaWave (2): Hu Tao, PoP
Laplacian (2): lucca261,

Gamma Emerald

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

1.12

Gamma Emerald

(7): Enchant,

Comical

, Upwards,

Naerys

, DeltaWave, Laplacian,

Gamma Emerald

DeltaWave (2): Hu Tao, PoP
Laplacian (2): lucca261, Gypyx

MargotRosa

(1):

FuDuzn

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

Day 2

Spoiler:

2.2

Laplacian (2): Enchant,

Comical

Upwards (1): Gypyx
Prince of Paterson (1): DeltaWave

Not Voting (6): Upwards, Hu Tao,

Naerys

, lucca261, Laplacian, Prince of Paterson


2.3

Upwards (1): Gypyx
Prince of Paterson (1): DeltaWave

Comical

(1): Enchant

Not Voting (7): Upwards, Hu Tao,

Naerys

, lucca261, Laplacian, Prince of Paterson,

Comical

2.4

Upwards (3): Gypyx,

Comical

, Hu Tao
Prince of Paterson (1): DeltaWave
Comical (1): Enchant
Enchant (1): Laplacian

Not Voting (4): Upwards,

Naerys

, lucca261, Prince of Paterson


2.5

Upwards (4): Gypyx,

Comical

,

Naerys

, Laplacian
Prince of Paterson (1): DeltaWave

Comical

(1): Enchant

Not Voting (4): Upwards, lucca261, Prince of Paterson, Hu Tao



2.6

Enchant (5): Prince of Paterson, Gypyx,

Naerys

, Laplacian, Hu Tao
Upwards (1):

Comical

Prince of Paterson (1): DeltaWave

Comical

(1): Enchant

Not Voting (2): Upwards, lucca261


2.7

Enchant (4): Prince of Paterson,

Naerys

, Laplacian, Hu Tao
Upwards (1):

Comical

Prince of Paterson (1): DeltaWave

Comical

(1): Enchant

Not Voting (3): Upwards, lucca261, Gypyx


2.7.2 (labeled as a 2nd 2.7)

Enchant (4):

Naerys

, Laplacian, Hu Tao, Deltawave

Comical

(1): Enchant
lucca261 (1): Prince of Paterson

Not Voting (4): Upwards, lucca261, Gypyx,

Comical

[Comical]

1.3

MargotRosa

(5):

Comical

, Gypyx,

Gamma Emerald

, Laplacian,

FuDuzn

Upwards (2): lucca261, Hu Tao
Gamma Emerald (1): Enchant
Enchant (1):

Naerys

Not Voting (4): Upwards, PoP, DeltaWave,

MargotRosa

1.4

MargotRosa

(4):

Comical

, Gypyx,

Gamma Emerald

, Laplacian
Upwards (1): lucca261

Gamma Emerald

(1): Enchant
Enchant (1):

Naerys

lucca261 (1): FuDuzn

Not Voting (5): Upwards, PoP, DeltaWave,

MargotRosa

, Hu Tao


1.5

MargotRosa

(3):

Comical

, Gypyx, Laplacian
lucca261 (2):

FuDuzn

, DeltaWave
Upwards (1): lucca261

Gamma Emerald

(1): Enchant
Enchant (1):

Naerys

Comical

(1):

Gamma Emerald

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

Not Voting (3): Upwards, PoP, Hu Tao


1.6

MargotRosa

(4): Gypyx, Laplacian,

FuDuzn

, Hu Tao
Gamma Emerald (2): Enchant,

Comical

lucca261 (1): DeltaWave
Upwards (1): lucca261
Enchant (1):

Naerys

Comical

(1):

Gamma Emerald

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

Not Voting (2): Upwards, PoP

NOW if you check in at the vote counts 1.3, we have a empty pocket on an early scum wagon, you're gonna wanna wear your rain jackets for this one because we are in for some windy wet weather.

Because of its earliness and later collapse, it's highly likely there is at least 1 scum bussing on the MargotRosa wagon, and the ones sticking out, unflipped are Gypyx and Laplacian, and we get a little sprinkle of Hu Tao over on 1.6 after it dies down.

Considering there's a large wanna be heat wave radiating from Delta/Lap, it's very likely that the rays come down from both those areas.

[Comical]

1.9

Gamma Emerald

(5): Enchant,

Comical

, Upwards,

Naerys

, DeltaWave

MargotRosa

(3): Gypyx, Laplacian,

FuDuzn

DeltaWave (2): Hu Tao, PoP
Upwards (1): lucca261

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

Naerys (1): Gamma Emerald

1.11

Gamma Emerald

(5): Enchant,

Comical

, Upwards,

Naerys

, DeltaWave

MargotRosa

(3): Gypyx, Laplacian,

FuDuzn

DeltaWave (2): Hu Tao, PoP
Laplacian (2): lucca261,

Gamma Emerald

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

1.12

Gamma Emerald

(7): Enchant,

Comical

, Upwards,

Naerys

, DeltaWave, Laplacian,

Gamma Emerald

DeltaWave (2): Hu Tao, PoP
Laplacian (2): lucca261, Gypyx

MargotRosa

(1):

FuDuzn

FuDuzn

(1):

MargotRosa

Now if you check a bit later into the evening, we get a Gamma Emerald counterwagon. This is officially confirmed based on the flips, and the votes that place the Gamma wagon over the edge, are Delta's....and yes, you guessed it. Laplacian.

This makes it highly likely for a clear blue skies day, and finding a scum in one of the two. While it's possible they BOTH are scum, it's also likely that there could be one off, either on the Delta wagon or the Laplacian wagon. Interesting that both of those names show up yet again. Patterns are a coincidence? Most likely not.

[Comical]

2.5

Upwards (4): Gypyx,

Comical

,

Naerys

, Laplacian
Prince of Paterson (1): DeltaWave

Comical

(1): Enchant

Not Voting (4): Upwards, lucca261, Prince of Paterson, Hu Tao



2.6

Enchant (5): Prince of Paterson, Gypyx,

Naerys

, Laplacian, Hu Tao
Upwards (1):

Comical

Prince of Paterson (1): DeltaWave

Comical

(1): Enchant

Not Voting (2): Upwards, lucca261


2.7

Enchant (4): Prince of Paterson,

Naerys

, Laplacian, Hu Tao
Upwards (1):

Comical

Prince of Paterson (1): DeltaWave

Comical

(1): Enchant

Not Voting (3): Upwards, lucca261, Gypyx


2.7.2 (labeled as a 2nd 2.7)

Enchant (4):

Naerys

, Laplacian, Hu Tao, Deltawave

Comical

(1): Enchant
lucca261 (1): Prince of Paterson

Not Voting (4): Upwards, lucca261, Gypyx,

Comical

Now let's check the most current conditions.

Upwards, imo, obvious newtown, has Lap yet again coming for a return in form on the 4th slot. But wait, just when you think the storm is about to pass, an Enchant wagon starts up, and what do we see? Laplacian once more...next to Hu Tao and Deltawave, another pairing of the 3 of them together. Interesting.

Notice how when the Enchant wagon starts to dissipate, Deltawave votes keeping the momentum rolling.

[Comical]

1.11 to 1.12 jump from Margot to Gamma is stinky stinky.

VOTE: Laplacian

[Comical]

Until that happens
VOTE: DeltaWave
Because neuroscience gives me grad school flashbacks

VOTE: MargotRosa

Anyways wanna vote a slot that's been weirdly shy about things?

VOTE: MargotRosa
I somewhat agree with this idea. I think she’s just been not present but wouldn’t mind leaving her a little present on her return

I'm down with this vote (despite only having 2 posts myself)
VOTE: MargotRosa

lol did lap just vote both his partners from the get go

[Comical]

I still think Hu tao's probs town, but they're wrong here on Lap, but if it's not Lap, it's always Delta. Right now I can still kinda see Lap + elsewhere, but Lap/Delta looks good for now.

[Comical]

Lap onto Delta looks pretty rough.

Okay, I think I might have changed over to Lap/Hu Tao being most likely.

Hu Tao saying to go on Gamma wagon then heading to Upwards and Delta and completely letting Lap off the hook for 'vibes' is baaaaaaaaaaad.

[Comical]

imma claim rn for some WIFOM.

I am a PR.

[Comical]

so far it's Tracker, Vig, and myself on town side.

I feel there could be merit in a mass claim.

[Gypyx]

what's your opinion on a scumteam of enchant / Lapia ? I feel that if Delta / Lapia were really in a hurry to kill Gamma (which, i kinda doubt due to the wagon seeming basically unavoidable as it grew bigger) they would've waited for E-1 so that one of them could hammer ? Or maybe they were counting on hu tao quickhammering actually, that's a strong possibility idk need to think about things

i'm also strongly against a massclaim due to this setup pretty clearly being low power, we at most have 2 unclaimed power roles, besides we don't really need the info a massclaim would provide right now i feel

[Comical]

what's your opinion on a scumteam of enchant / Lapia ? I feel that if Delta / Lapia were really in a hurry to kill Gamma (which, i kinda doubt due to the wagon seeming basically unavoidable as it grew bigger) they would've waited for E-1 so that one of them could hammer ? Or maybe they were counting on hu tao quickhammering actually, that's a strong possibility idk need to think about things

i'm also strongly against a massclaim due to this setup pretty clearly being low power, we at most have 2 unclaimed power roles, besides we don't really need the info a massclaim would provide right now i feel

im a protective. it's fine. im looking for places like that on purpose. there's either 1 more town PR, or 0. A No Kill tomorrow or myself dying tonight is actually pretty good for the game, I feel.

It's possible Enchant/Lap. i actually cant defend Enchant here that hard, cuz i see the possibility, but I think Lap for sure is red.

[Comical]

im in a scenario where id rather Naerys live through other than me as IC.

[Comical]

especially because juggernaut is flipped. i think there's merit.

it's possible all town PR are outed already after I claimed anyways.

[DeltaWave]

Oh, it was Gypyx who was on the wagon and moved over.

Don't let the fact that you were wrong change your opinion of course.

[Comical]

Oh, it was Gypyx who was on the wagon and moved over.

Don't let the fact that you were wrong change your opinion of course.

other stuff changed the opinion of it. like finding Lap who moved to Gamma, which actually with Lap scum, i dont think it's ever Gypyx. Not room on Mar for 2 scum like that.

[DeltaWave]

I didn't fully catch up lol

[Comical]

if we have an investigative, as a protective, id like them to claim. juggernaut is strong enough PR for the remaining to be 2 goon.

we automatically get their results from last night + result tomorrow.

[Enchant]

imma claim rn for some WIFOM.

I am a PR.

I am dissapointed in you.

[Comical]

yall basic

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Laplacian

really happy to come back to this wagon tbh

[Gypyx]

yall basic

I mean, you're pretty obviously not a PR, that's the issue

[Comical]

yall basic

I mean, you're pretty obviously not a PR, that's the issue

wont age well

[Comical]

at least Naerys is outed.

but yall snore babies

[Enchant]

And now you argue because of him you won’t answer my question?

What is your question?

What do you make of 1031?

Meta is unreliable. But yes, these my previous games.

Now that’s a start at least. But in what way unreliable? Do you acknowledge a difference between your Town and Scum gameplay in there and argue that it can’t be used for reference in future games, or is your argument that there’s no meaningful difference to begin with?

There's Town games which can be compared with Mafia ones. Ultimately, only thing are changed is my starting knowledge.

If i knew about difference, i will eliminate it or defy it.