micro 1096: planned idea [game over]

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: Flare Fluff
Slot is a liability regardless of alignment tbch

agree tbh

hard to tell if this is an omgus heavy townie or a scum who got hard caught in their bullshit

Again, liability either way.

[DkKoba]

labeling everything other ppl do as unreasonable without like.. good proof , is just odd af

[DkKoba]

I find it scummy that all ausuka is doing is constantly shading us and quoting our posts and I don't recall her engaging with other players. This is not towny.

- A

this is typically how people tend to play mafia

[DkKoba]

I'd say about 25-33% of the time that statement is correct

[HighPrincessErinys]

Yeah theres nothing inherently scummy about focusing on a slot or two at a time. It's how this one plays alot of the time tbh.

[DkKoba]

also obligatory, shadow hasn't been here for 8 hours so they're confscum

[Flare Fluff]

Flare Fluff, I think you misunderstood what I said in 478. Your response in 480 didn't really make sense in the context of what I was saying, so I told you I was confused. You said you didn't care and said I like to parrot others that seem confused. I asked you to explain what you meant and you said "how could you not understand" and "do you get it?!" which felt really condescending

I wasn't trying to be rude or insulting, I was trying to explain to you why I may be having a hard time understanding the point you are trying to make. I'm sorry if you felt insulted

why are you asking me, my english is bad as you claimed. well i don't like fighting. so sorry if i came of rude to.


1. you ask me about your pet theory
2. then i answered this, with town claim is 50/50 but from your pet theory you think i am not town. so perhaps i should went with just 50/50 for claims.
3. you say i didn't answer your pet theory.


what do you think my slot is?

~H

[Flare Fluff]

labeling everything other ppl do as unreasonable without like.. good proof , is just odd af

all i did was say low activity is scum possibility, then got called and labeled shallow.

i even later claimed after my experience with low activity scum in past games, but apparently that myth on this forum, what ever.


you guys have been on roll labeling me and A.



~H

[Black]

1. you ask me about your pet theory
2. then i answered this, with town claim is 50/50 but from your pet theory you think i am not town. so perhaps i should went with just 50/50 for claims.
3. you say i didn't answer your pet theory.

Just to clarify, in 478 I said I don't think both you and the other hydra are scum anymore. My pet theory involves Rogues being scum with someone else

[Black]

VOTE: Flare Fluff
Slot is a liability regardless of alignment tbch

I can see where you're coming from but I don't really think this is a good vote unless you think they are scum

[Flare Fluff]

Just to clarify, in 478 I said I don't think both you and the other hydra are scum anymore. My pet theory involves Rogues being scum with someone else

What pings Rogue as scum to you? past experience?


who would be the other scum?

~H

[Flare Fluff]

labeling everything other ppl do as unreasonable without like.. good proof , is just odd af

i never labeled everything as 100% people took that out context, even when i further explained. but that got ignored


~H

[Ausuka]

Like my point wasn't even *about* the activity stuff

, it was about how you completely misrepresented what Shadow was saying and have had a consistent pattern of doing that to anyone who suspects you throughout the game and I think it's a tactic

Your response just doesn't address anything

I'm not even sure if this can genuinely be faked because it's so ?????

I feel like you keep saying stuff like just asserting that you're town/just explaining or whatever when people express suspicion of you. I don't get the point. Obviously you know we're not just going to take your word for it? I could just as easily say "oh, i'm town, so you're just making a push narrative."

I look for other town. I don't see that in you. Since the early game, both of you have made a lot of posts taking what I say totally out of context to push me in retaliation, and I think you're consistently using that as a tactic to make yourself difficult to read. If you were a single slot, it would be a lot easier to chalk it up to playstyle but I find it strange that you both have the exact same attitude. Like, even after I made this post,

shaddowez comments that your reads list seems shallow for this point because you have a lot of reads which say they are simply activity based, you turn that into "are you also saying only town can be inactive?" which is just ... super obviously not the point here.

Similarly, when I pushed your slot,

you said "I fail to understand why you think town wouldn't do stuff." which was also super obviously not the point,

and other stuff like accusing me of avoiding the question when I definitely answered it. When Black pushes you, she's "either she read my post wrong or she is doing it on purpose pretending to play clueless." It's just consistently strawmanning anyone who pushes you to an absurd degree. It's difficult to read, but again given the consistency of this kind of approach from both members of the hydra I'm inclined to think it might be intentional. I don't think being defensive is inherently scummy, but I get very bad vibes from the way you're doing it. Like, it's not impossible that both of you just happen to behave like this but it feels less likely than it being at least partially strategic on your part.

I'm also just not a fan of 406 especially viewed in the context of your posts constantly asserting that you're just town or just asserting things.

It feels performative and overexplainy, like in order to get people to townread you you're trying to super visibly go through the motions of a town thought process.

you brought up the shallow mention about activity, yet deny this, i already gave my point earlier not my problem you can't read.



Hey A Xd where did i say i fail to understand


~H

As I said ... my point was about how you spinned shaddowez's point beyond recognition, not about your post itself. If you actually read my post, that should be immediately obvious. You literally highlight, in bright text, where I do this. Therefore, your reply justifying your activity thing wasn't relevant to the point I am making.

This post pings me and it looks like you are discrediting me. You complained that me and harle have the same attitude calling it out that we are intentionally doing it while knowing nothing about our playstyles and the history we have had together playing together. I feel like a town ausuka would be questioning us about our play history together.

I think I will never be able to town read ausuka because I have found 2 completed scum games of ausuka and her scum games are really good.

- A

I don't know your history together, and I don't want to ask you for the story of your friendship. I think that would feel weirdly personal. If you have anything relevant you want to share that rebuts my point, feel free to do so, but I'm not going to poke around for it, and I think reading your posts in this game has given me a pretty good idea of your playstyles.

If you think I'm good at scum why would this cause you to believe I am like, making up random arguments and being obviously scummy or whatever it is you think I'm doing? Is that 'really good' scumplay?

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: Flare Fluff
Slot is a liability regardless of alignment tbch

I can see where you're coming from but I don't really think this is a good vote unless you think they are scum

They definitely could be, but this one doesn't think there's anything particularly wrong with a D1 "this is a bad slot regardless of alignment" flip.

[Flare Fluff]

anyways, tris,Rogue,black i can see as town, after black posted more and cleared up misunderstanding.

i will go back to null on rest, i see people hate reads or list. so i will not do that anymore.


~H

[Ausuka]

I find it scummy that all ausuka is doing is constantly shading us and quoting our posts and I don't recall her engaging with other players. This is not towny.

- A

Shading? How is this shade? I'm voting for you right now.

I've engaged with other players. I just haven't, like, pushed them particularly hard because you stood out to me the most, and fmpov you're constantly quoting my posts, accusing me of things and taking my posts out of context, so obviously I feel like I have to respond.

[Flare Fluff]

are there day invest in this sort of setup by scum?


~H

[HighPrincessErinys]

i see people hate reads or list. so i will not do that anymore.

ok. cool. very helpful.

[Ausuka]

The game has 5 VTs, 2 masons and 2 mafia goons.

Every player additionally has a power which is not supposed to benefit their faction in a significant way. If mafia do have a day investigative it would be fundamentally meaningless.

[DkKoba]

labeling everything other ppl do as unreasonable without like.. good proof , is just odd af

i never labeled everything as 100% people took that out context, even when i further explained. but that got ignored


~H

this is irrelevant to the intent of what i meant

[DkKoba]

labeling everything other ppl do as unreasonable without like.. good proof , is just odd af

all i did was say low activity is scum possibility, then got called and labeled shallow.

i even later claimed after my experience with low activity scum in past games, but apparently that myth on this forum, what ever.


you guys have been on roll labeling me and A.



~H

labeling everything other ppl do as unreasonable without like.. good proof , is just odd af

i never labeled everything as 100% people took that out context, even when i further explained. but that got ignored


~H

why did u reply to the same post twice lol

[Black]

It feels like FF is scumreading people that scumread them, which I think is more likely to come from town? Idk, I think it's odd how their read on me changed after I unvoted them and said I didn't really think they were scum anymore

[DkKoba]

are there day invest in this sort of setup by scum?


~H

i may or may not have a day role

[Flare Fluff]

this is irrelevant to the intent of what i meant

you do not quote anyone most of the time, so hard to see who your referring to.

~H

[DkKoba]

It feels like FF is scumreading people that scumread them, which I think is more likely to come from town? Idk, I think it's odd how their read on me changed after I unvoted them and said I didn't really think they were scum anymore

i went from leantown, to scum, to null in a matter of 30 minutes without much explaination im just here enjoying the ride because i already know from experience that there no guarantee this is scum behavior but im also not about to let people just say anything bc thats also the scum that tends to get away from me