Mini Normal 2324: Fake Fantasy Facts | Postgame

[Comical]

Disagree.

[Comical]

But i also don’t care because you’re pushing this from the conclusion i am scum, and i just know you are wrong.

Don’t try to convince me im scum

You can find just as many reasons to town read me here, you just don’t care to look for those

Ignoring the main thing of

“Why do any of this shit as scum?”

[Laplacian]

If I was scum I would let flavor do his thing and vote out town

Oh ffs I didn't know Comical is Flavor Leaf. Suddenly the shitgazillion posts and immediately bossing town around make so much sense.

[Laplacian]

Obviously one of Laplacian/Comical has to be scum with the impossible counterclaims. If people are getting cold feet about that then the next best wagon is Enchant. This should be simple.

I think about half of us have reached that conclusion from the votes on Enchant.

[Laplacian]

Then they tried to claim doctor to counter my protective claim, and then tried to weasel the possibility of there being 2 doctors in the game so they don’t look bad after i flipped and didn’t have to directly 1v1.

They got caught out with the duplicate rule in Simple games.

I doubt anyone cares at this point, but this isn't true, and Comical knows that he's twisting things here. Notice how he doesn't quote anything, he just repeats the narrative that he set until people start to believe it or just get tired of arguing with him.

Here's Laplacian's posts that Comical is referring to:

I've been deliberating if this is a good idea or not all day. The only way I see Conical making sense as scum is to try to bait out invests and protectives, and I think town comes out even with a goon for 2 pr trade. I cc protective, doc with some restrictions. Was on Gypyx last night.

Conical, does your role have any restrictions?

Lapia, would you be willing to elaborate on your restrictions?

I think there's a chance for you both to be town if these restrictions prevent you from targeting each other in some way

1-shot strongman against a single protective is also maybe a bit overkill actually

Fuck it, radical honesty time. 3 shot doc.

Dragon has run a 2 doc game before, so it's not totally out of the question. 100% another scum role though if we have 2 PRs, one with no restrictions.

Conical, did you want to full claim?

In that post, he clearly states that if the other protective doesn't have any restrictions, it's 100% a scum role. Comical had been dodging the hardclaim at the time this post was made. At no point did Laplacian propose that his role could be compatible with Comical's role, nor did he get "caught out" by there being no duplicate roles.

No, Comical read it right. I didn't know about the no duplicates rule, so was saying "if there are 2 town docs, then scum must have anoter PR"

[Laplacian]

I am calculated and confident as scum.

I am cocky as town.

Which one do you think this is?

If you know your meta, you can work to mitigate it. Worthless argument

[Comical]

Just flow Lap.

We’re in a direct 1v1, let’s play a “take out each other’s partner” game.

You really think my most likely partner here is Enchant over someone like a Hu Tao, Gypyx, or Lucca?

[Comical]

I am calculated and confident as scum.

I am cocky as town.

Which one do you think this is?

If you know your meta, you can work to mitigate it. Worthless argument

Do you disagree with that sentiment though?

I think it’s fine for people to think I am scum here, but still it wouldn’t be a cocky roughshod unless it was specifically planned to do so.

[Laplacian]

I am calculated and confident as scum.

I am cocky as town.

Which one do you think this is?

If you know your meta, you can work to mitigate it. Worthless argument

Do you disagree with that sentiment though?

I think it’s fine for people to think I am scum here, but still it wouldn’t be a cocky roughshod unless it was specifically planned to do so.

I know you're scum, and you've been acting in confident af. Adds up

[Laplacian]

I am mafia, i give up.

For everyone on the fence about Enchant, note how they dropped the gimmick as soon as they said this. No more

bold

, no more quasi-deific persona, just posting like normal with regular vibes. If this isn't a tell, I don't know what is

[Comical]

I mean, I’m confident, sure

I’m not confident i don’t get eliminated, though

I think that’s the big thing that shows I’m town

[DeltaWave]

This is so ridiculous. Keeping both doc claims alive just presents us with the same decision to make tomorrow. Then what are we going to do? Leave it an open question until lim or lose? Having a flip out of one of these two would confirm at least one of them as scum and provide lots of information at the same time. It is objectively the right thing to do to resolve this today. Any possible benefit derived from kicking this can down the road would be totally blown out if scum has some type of roleblocking. (e.g. RB, Jailkeeper, JOAT, whatever.)

[Laplacian]

This is so ridiculous. Keeping both doc claims alive just presents us with the same decision to make tomorrow. Then what are we going to do? Leave it an open question until lim or lose? Having a flip out of one of these two would confirm at least one of them as scum and provide lots of information at the same time. It is objectively the right thing to do to resolve this today. Any possible benefit derived from kicking this can down the road would be totally blown out if scum has some type of roleblocking. (e.g. RB, Jailkeeper, JOAT, whatever.)

Valid. While I obviously prefer Comical first so we can save a day and I can actually doc tonight, either order gets us there in the end. I just hope we can get the votes since Lucca is lurking and Upwards seems really reluctant to vote.

VOTE: Comical

[Comical]

VOTE: Comical

[Comical]

Just go me.

Then follow my reads after

[Comical]

I’m obv town.

zero benefit if I were scum.

Hu Tao clearly sees I’m town even

[Comical]

Enchant is obvious af town. If you mislim them after me, yall deserve to lose this

[Comical]

Naerys dies tonight

You go into tomorrow with confirmed scum Lap

Gypyx
Lucca
Upwards
Delta

Have the final scum in them.

Pop doesn’t defend Lap this way. Hu Tao doesn’t play that way if scum with Lap.

[Comical]

I don’t think Upwards is scum here either, but i won’t be keeping up with this game after

I’m vindicated in death anyways

[Comical]

You’re welcome

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao's response to this situation is suspect to me.

Why?

[Hu Tao]

Comical is town I agree.

Problem is I also think lap is town. So this doesn't make sense to me.

[Hu Tao]

If it was any slots but these 2 I wouldn't be struggling so much.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Comical

Can you not

[Comical]

Actually, maybe it’s time to come clean.

Been waiting for Lucca to come back in here because they were the only one who didn’t get to taste any of the honey from the honey traps.

I am a Bodyguard.

Was trying to wait for after Mass Claim to force scum to pick Vanilla or PR now.

I’ve been pushing mass claim because there are most likely 4 PR’s in this game.

With a juggernaut and the flipped roles, sorry, there’s more than likely 4 town PR’s this game, +2 goons. This is a Simple game.

Had a player claimed PR, I was going to claim Bodyguard and go over this.

I believe scum are in the unclaimed area, maybe Gypyx, idk.

Enchant is OBVIOUS AF town.

Lap is ‘most likely town’ based on the denseness of their posts this day phase.

Hu Tao…is ‘probably town’. I don’t think it makes sense for scum to bring up the possibility of me fake claiming.

Enchant straight up knew I was fake claiming, imo, that’s clear af they knew I was fake claiming as town.

PoP is too mad to be scum here.

Keep in mind, with the idea that if Lap is also town, scum were playing this knowing that I was lying with my role probably, and trying to figure out where they stand with things.


This is 100% why Enchant was correct to go outside of the doctors, and a reason Hu Tao also went outside.

Pop, Enchant, and Hu Tao hard read through the lines (different attitudes about it, but I digress).

We are in a situation where the setup is

1-shot Vig
3-shot Doc
Tracker
Bodyguard
6x Vanilla

Vs

Juggernaut
Goon
Goon

If there were no other PR’s claimed this game, it is basically CONFIRMED that there are 2 goons and that all claimed PR’s are town.

Now if a PR is claimed, it’s either a 5 PR game with 2 scum PR, but I highly doubt that’s the case here.