micro 1096: planned idea [game over]

[DkKoba]

i also don't know where we got "koba wants to hammer them"

why would i care about being hammer vote while not bringing them to e-1 myself

big thinker, all will be clear soon anyways

[Black]

nope, someone else pls vote

i bet u

Are you trying to say these posts aren't an indication that you want someone to put Rogues at e-1 so you can hammer them?

[Black]

Koba is either trolling or they're scum. Maybe both

When I had the thought that both hydras could be scum, they said "nah", and at the time they scumread FF

That would imply they don't think Rogues is scum but now they want to hammer them

put them at e-1 and we'll find out

I'm already voting for them. Pay attention

[DkKoba]

nope, someone else pls vote

i bet u

Are you trying to say these posts aren't an indication that you want someone to put Rogues at e-1 so you can hammer them?

you can say that only after it happens if it were to

[shaddowez]

I was asking you a question on your opinion? You stated in your reads that you scumread less active players but town read fluff posters, I was questioning you based off of that, to try and understand your reasoning better.

- Theran.

Town are likely to fluff more over scum in start in early day phase and tris sounded town beside fluff, also it almost near end phase with low posters, what i meant. i have dealt with low posters who where scum also and it not day 1 anymore when i gave that point out. scum who play low activity is also strategy to not get noticed, to be less likely voted out.

shadows calling it shallow is really bias thinking.

~H

anyways, tris,Rogue,black i can see as town, after black posted more and cleared up misunderstanding.

i will go back to null on rest, i see people hate reads or list. so i will not do that anymore.


~H

People don't hate reads lists. The problem I had with yours, and the reason I called it shallow, was because a large portion of the list seemed to be based purely on activity and not at all on content/interactions. Either town or scum can be high or low activity, so judging people on that isn't very helpful. Similarly, either town or scum can fluff post, and the tendency to not post game advancing content in my experience generally comes from scum who don't need to read people and are just trying to look like they're doing stuff, rather than genuinely trying to solve.

also obligatory, shadow hasn't been here for 8 hours so they're confscum

>_>
<_<

[shaddowez]

What if it's just the two hydras

nah

What if it's just the two hydras

nah

Do you think Rogues is town?

@DkKoba

I'm interested in a straight answer to this as well. You seem awfully interested in the VC while still voting the other hydra, but disagreeing with Black that it could be both.

[DkKoba]

What if it's just the two hydras

nah

What if it's just the two hydras

nah

Do you think Rogues is town?

@DkKoba

I'm interested in a straight answer to this as well. You seem awfully interested in the VC while still voting the other hydra, but disagreeing with Black that it could be both.

Already gave a straight answer

[DkKoba]

My want for e-1 is obviously separate from who I want eliminated lol

[DkKoba]

btw we have 2 days left

[DkKoba]

bruh

[Ausuka]

this game's activity hours are 10pm - 2 am gmt

[Ausuka]

that's not a me statement that's just when everyone posts

[Ausuka]

my take is still we should vote out rogues, already said why i think that and nothing substantial has changed since i did.

i do need to read that mu game though.

[Two Level 1 Rogues]

Dammit I forgot this game existed

I am not very good at hydraing

One sec

[Two Level 1 Rogues]

Which wagons? It says Margot, me, and Ausuka are leading the votes by 2.

I meant Ausuka and Margot, didn't notice you were also at 2.

The votes on Ausuka and Margot I am fine with the votes on them. I have been leaning scum Ausuka and Margot I am null on. A wagon on a null read hopefully it should be able to help me get a better read on them and a wagon on a scum lean it makes me wonder if I am right on the read and if I am wrong I might be able to figure out that I am wrong on my read just by seeing what else does the scum lean would say and if they start to make towny posts or not.

- A

I wanted more like to see you sort these two but okay.

@Black, Flare Fluff - What do you think about the two leading wagons?

- Corinne

What was the point of asking this?

I was feeling pretty strongly that Black and Fluff were TvT, and I thought it would be good to try and direct their attention to other areas instead of tunneling each other.


Also, I just saw this:

{HPE, Roden, tris} maybe town
{black, koba} idk
{shaddowez, rogues, vulpix} maybe scum

I don't understand why you think Roden and tris are town

its because i bribed her with a cat photo

VOTE: ausuka

:3

VOTE: margotrosa

:3

i've heard she can be good at scum, so i'm a little bit warry though

Girl I am literally the most voted player in the game

And I know this is a preflip read, but I think this makes Ausuka and tris look really freaking partnered. Like aside from tris casually and blatantly counterwagoning ausuka, their interaction and the townread don't feel very natural.

[Two Level 1 Rogues]

my take is still we should vote out rogues, already said why i think that and nothing substantial has changed since i did.

i do need to read that mu game though.

Uhh... where did you say why? Your vote on us is literally sandwiched by posts about Flare Fluff.

[Black]

Dammit I forgot this game existed

I am not very good at hydraing

One sec

This could be a lie I guess but if Rogues actually forgot about the game I wanna say that's probably +town for them. I'm never going to just forget about a scum game

[Two Level 1 Rogues]

Uh why would that be +town for me

I literally have a history of AFKing in scum games.

- Corrine, to be clear

[Two Level 1 Rogues]

And no I am not saying I'm scum

[Black]

VOTE: Ausuka

I think I'd rather go here

I'm getting Backup6 vibes from the way she's expressing her thoughts. It's hard to put into words but it kinda feels like she's overexplaining herself a little. I didn't like the way she jumped on the Rogues wagon. 553 feels scummy to me

[Black]

Uh why would that be +town for me

I literally have a history of AFKing in scum games.

- Corrine, to be clear

Do you have any examples of this other than Flavorless Hell? In that game you admitted IRL stuff made you go afk

[tris]

VOTE: Ausuka

I think I'd rather go here

I'm getting Backup6 vibes from the way she's expressing her thoughts. It's hard to put into words but it kinda feels like she's overexplaining herself a little. I didn't like the way she jumped on the Rogues wagon. 553 feels scummy to me

what's scummy about the post?

[tris]

@Black, Flare Fluff - What do you think about the two leading wagons?

- Corinne

What was the point of asking this?

I was feeling pretty strongly that Black and Fluff were TvT, and I thought it would be good to try and direct their attention to other areas instead of tunneling each other.

wasn't ausuka one of the wagons? how would that lead them away from tunneling ausuka?

[Black]

I probably can't explain it in a way that would satisfy you but it feels reminiscent of the scum game of hers I linked where she feigned uncertainty and overexplained herself quite a bit

[Two Level 1 Rogues]

Okay I found Ausuka's "scumcase" on my slot.

I think rogue's question about "what does flare fluff think about the wagons", including me, was a really scummy post

.

I don't think the push on Black was great

, and idk I guess their treatment of flare feels a bit weird to me. I think I might have to think about how I can verbalise that feeling better, and them being a hydra with two very different approaches to the slot complicates things. I usually don't play games with hydras so I'm not super used to dealing with it. In any case, I think the core of my problem with it is it feels like Theran kind of wants to push FF but doesn't actually do it?

I think I just explained this but I wonder why you decided it was weird when I didn't even answer you about it yet

Which push on Black? I've been townreading her.

Regarding Flare, they are actually my top townread right now I think? I am not sure what Theran did or didn't do because I haven't read up, but basically my read on them boils down to the fact that they are reacting to pressure like they know they are town and don't really care, just liking their vibes, and feeling that their approach to the game is really genuine and not tactical at all, which I feel is easier to see when they are an hydra because both heads are genuine which I think would be harder to fake as scum. Also I never really understood the push on them in the first place.

- Corinne