Open 901 - Normal Idea Mafia Redux - Postgame

[Alianna]

2.01

Votecount 2.01

Jacob24 (E-2): JacksonVirgo, Black, Skygazer, Save The Dragons

Not Voting (7): Jake The Wolfie, lucca261, Argonauts, shaddowez, SirCakez, Jacob24, Roden

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-02 17:23:21).

[Jacob24]

I am vanilla town, so there’s nothing in my role that would do anything as far as I’m aware. For those doubting my claim, I can promise you I’m very capable of making a more realistic claim. I’m not claiming vanilla just because I’m dumb and that seems easy.

Could another player have affected you?

this is one of the most suspicious posts i have ever seen lmao

Out of curiosity, what would you have wanted me to say. Vanilla townie is probably the worst role I could have chosen to claim after 2 died already, so no matter what it would have looked bad

[Jacob24]

Am I allowed to say what I am? Also, do mafia have a PM group on this version of the game? I assume that’s what you’re implying

Why did you want to claim on one of your first posts if you are a VT

To avoid this whole business where my own role seems suspicious

[JacksonVirgo]

Why are you so hooked on your own appearance specifically?

[lucca261]

I'm down to fade Jacob

I feel like he TMI'd that Hu Tao was the scum kill

That doesn't sound like TMI to me, just common sense. Although I guess Jacob probably doesn't have a great grasp of Not_Mafia's reputation so maybe a little more questionable coming from him.

-Atalanta

Why would he assume HT is the mafia kill and Not_Mafia is a town shot if he's not mafia? If he was town and two people got shot, he would've been way more confused about wtf happened given the supposed lack of knowledge about a SK (in his words)

[Argonauts]

I have a loyal modifier and my action failed on you

I manually counted and only 12 roles can interfere with that result, out of 150

And yet this exact thing happened in the first version, with our Loyal Checker getting roleblocked. It isn't even all that unlikely.

-Atalanta

[Jacob24]

If I am to be voted out, so be it. But I don’t think a rush job would be best for town.

[Jacob24]

Why are you so hooked on your own appearance specifically?

Well now it’s because I’m on e2 in 40 minutes

[lucca261]

at least let's wait until Shaddow, Cakez and Roden are online

[Argonauts]

I'm down to fade Jacob

I feel like he TMI'd that Hu Tao was the scum kill

That doesn't sound like TMI to me, just common sense. Although I guess Jacob probably doesn't have a great grasp of Not_Mafia's reputation so maybe a little more questionable coming from him.

-Atalanta

Why would he assume HT is the mafia kill and Not_Mafia is a town shot if he's not mafia? If he was town and two people got shot, he would've been way more confused about wtf happened given the supposed lack of knowledge about a SK (in his words)

Honestly it was exactly the same as my reaction. There's no way Mafia shoots Not_Mafia, and if you don't immediately have the fact that there's a SK on your mind it's easy to think that's got to be a vig shot.

-Atalanta

[Jacob24]

I'm down to fade Jacob

I feel like he TMI'd that Hu Tao was the scum kill

That doesn't sound like TMI to me, just common sense. Although I guess Jacob probably doesn't have a great grasp of Not_Mafia's reputation so maybe a little more questionable coming from him.

-Atalanta

Why would he assume HT is the mafia kill and Not_Mafia is a town shot if he's not mafia? If he was town and two people got shot, he would've been way more confused about wtf happened given the supposed lack of knowledge about a SK (in his words)

If I was mafia, why incriminate myself in 2 minutes?

Most mafia games I’ve played in and moderated have had a town cop or vigilante. I’ve never Ed played with SK before

[Jake The Wolfie]

I have a loyal modifier and my action failed on you

Jackson, would you like to share your full role to the class?

[JacksonVirgo]

And yet this exact thing happened in the first version, with our Loyal Checker getting roleblocked. It isn't even all that unlikely.

Just because it happened doesn't mean it's likely. You say it isn't unlikely but even if it's 75/25% (which it is far from), they're scummy on their own and I would want them flipped regardless as I did on D1.

[JacksonVirgo]

I have a loyal modifier and my action failed on you

Jackson, would you like to share your full role to the class?

Not if I can help it, I have utility I'd rather keep hidden

[Black]

Some basic NKA:

Hu Tao was probably a Mafia kill. Given that there were generally good vibes all around, Hu Tao wasn't a loyal townread to everyone, but they were generally townread.
Not_Mafia was probably an SK kill. Not only because of the above, but also Mafia are unlikely to kill their prized cow, aiming to axe them instead.

I'll have to go back and check D1 to update this analysis.

Yeah I agree with this. Scum don't ever kill N_M here. He's too valuable to them

I don't really understand why the SK kills him either but here we are

[JacksonVirgo]

N_M is a god amongst men, all fear him. That's why he was shot

[lucca261]

Is there an full list of roles anywhere btw?

[JacksonVirgo]

Is there an full list of roles anywhere btw?

Linked in the OP

[JacksonVirgo]

Well, second post

viewtopic.php?t=86428

[JacksonVirgo]

4 - Serial Killer Simultaneous Doctor Rolecop Roleblocker
12 - Mafia Informed Roleblocker
15 - Mafia Combined Cop Roleblocker
27 - Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades (Rolestopper, Alien, Messenger)
28 - Town Combined Roleblocker Friendly Neighbor
49 - Werewolf Informed Three-shot Alien
57 - Mafia Night 1,2,3 JOAT (Cop, Babysitter, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Rolecop, Hider)
58 - Town Odd-Night Roleblocker
89 - Werewolf 1-Shot Bulletproof Simultaneous Alien Watcher
93 - Mafia Traitor Personal Rolestopper
96 - Serial Killer Jack-of-all-Trades (with Role Cop, Rolestopper, and Traffic Analyst shots)
126 - Even-Night Compulsive Babysitter Odd-Night Jailkeeper Serial Killer

All the roles that can interfere

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I guess the SK could be someone low on this list and they felt like getting rid of him. Maybe shaddow or even just Jacob

If it's Jacob then that explains how he knew Hu Tao was the scum kill

[Argonauts]

I mean hell, maybe it

was

a vig shot and the SK got blocked. Or is the depressingly evil SK who can't actually kill.

-Atalanta

[JacksonVirgo]

Probably off to sleep, assuming I do I will get back to y'all about any questions tomorrow

[SirCakez]

Damn, sucks that NM was town

[SirCakez]

Consider my vote on Jacob, don't want to get too close to hammer