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[Thomith]

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bugspray (3):

Doctor Drew, Psyche, OutWorldER

Doctor Drew (1):

bugspray

Jacob24 (1):

ketchup777

Hu Tao (1):

iamveryhappy

Not Voting (7):

Hu Tao, ssbm_Kyouko, ProjEctRy, Luca Blight, Jacob24, DeltaWave, Black

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-03 02:13:32)

Mod Notes

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[Luca Blight]

wait but explain. how did you get an either/or read?

From my point of view, it's certainly not a strong view that one of you must be scum, but I sense something off with both of your openings, and don't necessarily feel like you would begin that way if bugs was your partner, although of course that is possible. I last played mafia a few years ago now but bugs always lacked confidence as scum so I could see a question like that being asked as an entrance point into the game, and I'm not sure you would put early pressure on your partner by pointing out such a flaw, as you would be overly sensitive to the fact that it could be construed as an awkward opening.

this explains downweight of "scum psyche / scum bugspray", but doesn't give why "scum psyche / town bugspray" and "town psyche / scum bugspray" scenarios are upweighted

I've said that both of your openings seem off, and have explained why I think Bugs could be scum based on their opening. As to why I sense you are more likely scum, it's just a gut feeling, but perhaps it's that your first post almost looked a little too polished to begin with, and then the immediate questioning of the either/or read - it seems a bit of a non-confrontational way to go about it that i might expect from scum early on. On first glance I liked your posts, but on second glance I could easily see scum performing in such a manner early doors. Again, nothing major, but those are my thoughts.

[ProjEctRy]

VOTE: Black

Hi again!

[Psyche]

perfect

[Psyche]

my follow-up was totally redundant yeah

[Jacob24]

These early reads seem a bit mindless… let’s slow down a bit and think about it.

I’m here by the way.

[Luca Blight]

These early reads seem a bit mindless… let’s slow down a bit and think about it.

I’m here by the way.

I get what you're saying, but without the early reads, mindless though they may be, there would be nothing to slow down and think about.

[Jacob24]

drew is town and one of bugspray/psyche is scum, leaning bugspray

mafia is such an easy game

VOTE: bugspray

Can we get some real reasoning here?

[Jacob24]

These early reads seem a bit mindless… let’s slow down a bit and think about it.

I’m here by the way.

I get what you're saying, but without the early reads, mindless though they may be, there would be nothing to slow down and think about.

Seems like Pysche was using this same logic, but you called them out for it?

[Luca Blight]

These early reads seem a bit mindless… let’s slow down a bit and think about it.

I’m here by the way.

I get what you're saying, but without the early reads, mindless though they may be, there would be nothing to slow down and think about.

Seems like Pysche was using this same logic, but you called them out for it?

I'm not scumreading psyche for the fact he has reads early doors, but for the tone of his posts, as I did my best to explain.

[Hu Tao]

Hi.

[iamveryhappy]

Hi.

why are you scum

[ketchup777]

drew is town and one of bugspray/psyche is scum, leaning bugspray

mafia is such an easy game

VOTE: bugspray

I have the same thoughts as this, actually. Although I'm leaning more towards psyche being scum, at the moment.

I mostly agree with Luca on this. From the few games I looked at before this, the mafia tend to just lurk in the shadows at the start while town do a good job of killing themselves off. So I was inclined to be less suspicious of whoever responded first (drew/bugspray/psyche). While bugspray could well be bluffing with the question I just thought it was more likely they were town. However, I think it's either psyche or none of them, and that at least two of the mafia are currently lurking in the shadows. I chose a random lurker (jacob) to start off, who seemed perhaps to be a bit annoyed that I had voted him? Maybe because he's mafia? who knows

[Luca Blight]

drew is town and one of bugspray/psyche is scum, leaning bugspray

mafia is such an easy game

VOTE: bugspray

I have the same thoughts as this, actually. Although I'm leaning more towards psyche being scum, at the moment.

I mostly agree with Luca on this. From the few games I looked at before this, the mafia tend to just lurk in the shadows at the start while town do a good job of killing themselves off. So I was inclined to be less suspicious of whoever responded first (drew/bugspray/psyche). While bugspray could well be bluffing with the question I just thought it was more likely they were town. However, I think it's either psyche or none of them, and that at least two of the mafia are currently lurking in the shadows. I chose a random lurker (jacob) to start off, who seemed perhaps to be a bit annoyed that I had voted him? Maybe because he's mafia? who knows

That's an interesting interpretation - that Jacob was a bit annoyed that you had voted him. I can kind of see where you're coming from, although he seemed more annoyed at Outworld and myself for the early reads.

Why do you think psyche is more likely to be scum than drew, for example?

[Hu Tao]

@mod you claim this is a normal simple but multitasking is not a simple role modifier. Are all other mechanics in the game simple?

Why not ask this during role pm phase? Seems fake

[Hu Tao]

Hi.

why are you scum

Fortunately my role pm was green, but maybe that's unfortunate for you?

[iamveryhappy]

Hi.

why are you scum

Fortunately my role pm was green, but maybe that's unfortunate for you? 🤨

I swear the iavh oracles told iavh that you are scum
stop lying to me :mad:

[ketchup777]

That's an interesting interpretation - that Jacob was a bit annoyed that you had voted him. I can kind of see where you're coming from, although he seemed more annoyed at Outworld and myself for the early reads.

Why do you think psyche is more likely to be scum than drew, for example?

It's only very slight, but I think the town would be more confident to immediately leap in with a sentence, not fearing it being scrutinized. Whereas psyche merely voted (which in essence is what I did, so I'm not too hung up on it). At the moment as I said I'll be focusing my efforts on the quiet starters.

[ketchup777]

To be honest with the bulk of psyche replies later on I don't really have much to go on against psyche at the moment

[Luca Blight]

If you kick out all the multitaskers, then who is going to do multiple night actions, moderator? in the sense that -

I'm trying to make sense of this post. Could this be a scum pt slip? A casual question to the mod like this, cut off mid post.

Why does she think the multitaskers are being kicked out? It's as though she is reading another thread, or am I missing something here?

[Luca Blight]

I'm about to go to bed, but right now my feeling is that bugs/Delta + 1 of the quiet ones is scum. I'm leaning town on Ketchup at the moment.

[bugspray]

I'm about to go to bed, but right now my feeling is that bugs/Delta + 1 of the quiet ones is scum. I'm leaning town on Ketchup at the moment.

you can't call someone who hasn't posted in 9 hours a quiet one. i literally posted twice and then went to sleep. even when about to sleep you could not consider that is why I have not posted for the amount of time that is around one sleep? that is strange
but not as strange as the maybe scum pt slip

[bugspray]

ketchup are you an alt?

[Luca Blight]

I'm about to go to bed, but right now my feeling is that bugs/Delta + 1 of the quiet ones is scum. I'm leaning town on Ketchup at the moment.

you can't call someone who hasn't posted in 9 hours a quiet one. i literally posted twice and then went to sleep. even when about to sleep you could not consider that is why I have not posted for the amount of time that is around one sleep? that is strange
but not as strange as the maybe scum pt slip

I didn't call you a quiet one, I said I think you and Delta are scum plus one of the quiet ones.

[Psyche]

luca is an easy townread
maybe elaborate later

[quote="Luca Blight" post_id=14061031 post_num=45 time=<a href="tel:1706111918">1706111918</a> user_id=23263]
I'm about to go to bed, but right now my feeling is that bugs/Delta + 1 of the quiet ones is scum. I'm leaning town on Ketchup at the moment.

you can't call someone who hasn't posted in 9 hours a quiet one. i literally posted twice and then went to sleep. even when about to sleep you could not consider that is why I have not posted for the amount of time that is around one sleep? that is strange
but not as strange as the maybe scum pt slip
[/quote]

maybe scum pt slip?