Eminence in Shadow: Season 1 [Game Over]

[PenguinPower]

Hrm

[jjh927]

Do you have any thoughts on Tired Person right now, penguin

[PenguinPower]

Kinda hard to since they just seem to want to vote park me.

[PenguinPower]

Although they’re on t3 now?

[jjh927]

I think it's worth looking at these two posts together

tbf I don't disagree with the other two

i do. wheme is very towny, and i don't see how anyone could have a read on me. and i checked before i decided to replace in, cephrir was towny.

Ok so who are your suspects? I thought Klicks PoE pool was solid

keeping in mind i haven't really bothered to sort anyone since day 1 because of the guilties and klick v luka thing, the pool of people i don't strongly tr is probably jjh/t3/penguin/you.

i think out of this pool, you are the towniest and penguin is the scummiest. i don't really have reads on t3 and jjh but one is probably scum because of process of elimination.

I know I have a few more T3 posts to look at and that's what tipped me off initially but are the T3 voters looking at the posts in thread and not seeing a very self-consistent narrative that is backed by a reasonable thought process

i am literally sheeping two confirmed towns: klick and sakura.
i also don't really have a read on t3 while i do have a townread on several people.

can u towncase t3? other than by saying he is clearly town.

[jjh927]

Very much feels like they're trying to appear to be doing more than they are doing

but yeah if I'm going to respond to that request to towncase T3 then I will do it in real time, because I think I've set out quite succinctly what makes T3 town and it's there if you actually look for it

[Bingle]

Very much feels like they're trying to appear to be doing more than they are doing

?

It feels to me like they're pretty straightforwardly doing nothing. What makes you think they're trying to appear otherwise?

[Bingle]

Maybe? But again, the first post was a fairly hard read that shut down several people’s desire to vote Penguin

I... don't really see that. I see pooky making that post and not a lot of thread impact. I also don't think "Pengy is town because he's sheeping me" is a read that's likely to actually prevent people from voting Pengy, nor do I think pooky was likely to think that. Maybe people who were in the thread can weigh in and tell me the vibe was different in real time, but I don't at all get the impression that 678 was likely to ever really accomplish discouraging a lim, nor does it seem like pengy was a likely lim prospect at that point of the game. I think 1907 is more in line with maybe actually being a defense, but it doesn't seem like one that was designed to actually bear fruit.

[Bingle]

I think it's vaguely interesting that no one has attempted to engage with 2772 and the implication it brings that I've finished reading the game. I have, in fact, finished reading the game.

[Sakura Hana]

UNVOTE:
Hmm is this something Gamma says to a partner?

VOTE: T3
how about we just kill this, I feel like he's reacting to all the wrong things and in all the wrong ways

[Sakura Hana]

Across Ceph's posting, he only ever voted, Pooky, Gamma and T3.
Moreover:

STD won't give away whatever magic keys he has to reading me, I don't have a clue how he does it but I have to admit his accuracy has been remarkable thus far

Ceph is good at efforting and trying hard as scum

He feels more relaxed here and open with his thoughts

He also gets annoyed or tilted easily on here (Sorry babe) and he has had personal frustration leak into the game to a point where he was sassing gamma and later apologized for it. I don't think scum cephrir does that. But town cephrir can be more biting because he's not worried about drawing negative attention to himself.

My natural inclination is to scumread cephrir. The fact I can townread him so easily makes me just think he's really town here

Ugh now I'm nostalgic for the days when people were actually scared of me

Would this be a scum Ceph's reaction to STD's read on him?

[Sakura Hana]

Ceph got pretty frustrated with Gamma, doesnt look like partners.
I'm happy binning TP as town.

[Bingle]

Hmm is this something Gamma says to a partner?

I think Gamma is pretty quick to bus partners she gets frustrated with. Like, if she doesn't think they're doing enough to get endgame cred, I think she jumps right to the 'burn the bridge' stage.

[Bingle]

^Solely an impression based on modding a ton of games with her, not a definitive "She does this", so if contradictory meta exists by all means share it. Just my vibe check on Gamma scum.

[Sakura Hana]

I guess T3 could still be scum then.
So it's 2 out of T3/jjh/Wheme.

[Sakura Hana]

And since Wheme self resolves anyway.

[Bingle]

I really don't think it's both jj and wheme. This whole claim/refusal/BUT HE WOULD AS TOWN bit seems unlikely to be theater. I'm pretty sold on one of jj/wheme, one of pp/t3.

[Sakura Hana]

I voted PP earlier partly out of frustration.
But there's some true to the story that it seemed like Pooky didnt care if PP got elimmed instead of Dunn.
realistically if the last 2 scum are in jjh/Wheme/T3 then we auto win. The only other potential scum candidate is PP, but im less certain on that.
Cakez and TP are cleared based on associations with flipped scum, TP doubly so due to STD's meta assesment of Ceph.
Bingle is cleared via Kawaii's meta.
Anyone has any objections to this?

[Sakura Hana]

We only got 1 miselim left, so if we can figure out 1 town out of wheme/T3/PP/jjh, then that helps.
This is why i didnt want to analyze things there was a real chance scum would shoot a town!wheme due to being the last town PR.
But since we're going this route i might as well do the homework.

[Bingle]

But if wheme is town and we leave that unresolved tonight, scum is still suffering the sword of damoclese of maybe wheme nets town an extra elimination for town or makes a mechtown slot or a mech 1v1. Which closes the potential "Well, we falsely cleared x" gap of us losing, both in the case where we DID falsely clear x and in the case where we did not falsely clear x but scum is charisma maxed.

[WhemeStar]

Hmm is this something Gamma says to a partner?

I think Gamma is pretty quick to bus partners she gets frustrated with. Like, if she doesn't think they're doing enough to get endgame cred, I think she jumps right to the 'burn the bridge' stage.

I agree with this

[WhemeStar]

Me claiming probably makes me town but I don’t want to claim as it helps scum

[Sakura Hana]

Me claiming probably makes me town but I don’t want to claim as it helps scum

I'm not going to argue you over it, but think about the consequences.
If you don't claim today and we eliminate town today and i get NK'd, then you're going to have to claim tomorrow on melo and no way to verify whether your claim is truthful or not, and no 2nd chances coz you cant miselim anymore.
Unless your claim is something that will undoubtedly show you as town remember that there's the chance that people wont buy your claim on melo, and scum will definitely do whatever to discredit you for the reasons i outlined earlier.

Moreover assuming i'm not making a mistake on the people im clearing if your claim does verify you as town, this game is basically autowin and your role is probably useless past that point anyway.

[Sakura Hana]

Regardless today's elimination should be within jjh/T3/PP, unless anyone has any objections to my prior post.

[Sakura Hana]

I kind of find it hard to find this interaction as SvS

I can see that this is obviously not going to work so I'll stop. I mean, not that I was really trying very hard. the above concern they will actually go through is very not founded though, there are so many of you just desperate to do anything to keep this unpleasant person around which is odd but whatever.

VOTE: pooky

Who are you calling unpleasant???

I find it hard to believe you can't piece this together so I think this is probably you starting shit

I can see that this is obviously not going to work so I'll stop. I mean, not that I was really trying very hard. the above concern they will actually go through is very not founded though, there are so many of you just desperate to do anything to keep this unpleasant person around which is odd but whatever.

VOTE: pooky

Who are you calling unpleasant???

I find it hard to believe you can't piece this together so I think this is probably you starting shit

Based on the vote I thought you meant pooky but I quickly thought it might have been BCG
KEEP IN MIND: I made in a mod error in my last completed game I ran because someone ranted about shit that had zero consequence on their night action in the NA submission PM! So

yes

, I really do need this shit clarified!

Sorry, I was annoyed when I wrote that post