Open 902: Frienemies Blitz | Postgame

[light_ganski]

As an aside I think "naerys and gob are scumbuddies" and "gob is scum, buddying townie naerys" are both possible solutions to what I'm seeing in their combined ISO, but the common thread is that gob is scum either way

[Dannflor]

I think gob is town

[Dannflor]

Scum team might be ranger+light+python

wtf mindmeld with nairys

So why arent we voting python?

i am

Nice. Ive found you towny btw idk why others havent. no offense but i think sometimes you can be lhf type

why vote me instead of naerys who is top wagon?

Strange how gob seems to TR Naerys but then suggests her as an alternative to voting him instead of suggesting a SR of his.

Scum team might be ranger+light+python

wtf mindmeld with nairys

So why arent we voting python?

i am

Nice. Ive found you towny btw idk why others havent. no offense but i think sometimes you can be lhf type

why vote me instead of naerys who is top wagon?

Strange how gob seems to TR Naerys but then suggests her as an alternative to voting him instead of suggesting a SR of his.

Thank you for reminding me of the contradiction

VOTE: Gob

I am pretty sure one of the votes that felt the need to justify their vote on a slot like gob’s with an “inconsistency” like this is scum

Initial feeling is that drew is just lazy town and davesaz is scum

[Dannflor]

VOTE: davesaz

Would happily kill davesaz based off that vote alone and probably feel better about that than anything else in this game thus far

[usesPython]

python specifically

could you explain the dannflor read? like is it deeper than just "this seems like a scum tunnel"

Your tunnel on us feels like a scum tunnel

why

what differentiates it from a town tunnel to you

it's the subtle things like

i don't believe Python actually town reads ausuka in 117

where it feels the goal is to entirely discredit instead of actually reading our alignment

Like you see what we mean by it feeling like your goal is to find things to call us scum for instead of sorting us

part of the reason i have been very repetitive with my painting you as scum is because i wanted to see if that nervous energy appeared but it is disappointingly not

[usesPython]

Easiest prod dodge of our life btw

[usesPython]

But yeah the Dann read is pretty much entirely from how he approached our slot

[usesPython]

Oh wow deadline in 36 hours already, ppl any will for a dann lim?

[Naerys]

i prefer python lim

[gob]

Scum team might be ranger+light+python

wtf mindmeld with nairys

So why arent we voting python?

i am

Nice. Ive found you towny btw idk why others havent. no offense but i think sometimes you can be lhf type

why vote me instead of naerys who is top wagon?

Strange how gob seems to TR Naerys but then suggests her as an alternative to voting him instead of suggesting a SR of his.

I do TR naerys im just wondering why they are voting the person with 0 as opposed to 3, if me and naerys are both scummy.

[gob]

Scum team might be ranger+light+python

wtf mindmeld with nairys

So why arent we voting python?

i am

Nice. Ive found you towny btw idk why others havent. no offense but i think sometimes you can be lhf type

why vote me instead of naerys who is top wagon?

Strange how gob seems to TR Naerys but then suggests her as an alternative to voting him instead of suggesting a SR of his.

I think gob has a point though. LG went from the top wagon to a vanity wagon this late into D1 even though they are her bottom two scumreads. I haven't had the chance to look at the case yet but I saw the readslist

LOL

this made me die laughing for some reason

[gob]

Alright how about the peoppe voting me talk to me.

I am ready tk answer any questions. I stand by all my plays and reads. I feel like there are also at least 2 wolves on my wagon given how quick things ran up.

I dont want to die day 1 so, get off and stuff everyone

[Ausuka]

Ok here's a readlist

{light_ganski, Ranger}
{Dannflor, Save the Dragons, usesPython}
{Black, Doctor Drew, gob}
{Cook, Naerys}
{davesaz, T-Bone}

Light ganski was actually a fairly weak townlean earlier. I think her recent posting has been much townier; she feels very much genuinely invested in solving and has energy to be, like, moving around. I think scum often try to emulate their town play, but take the path of least resistance in doing so; I don't think light here is behaving like that.
I struggle to see this being scum Ranger. I'm not sure how to exactly express this, except the black/dann push in particular still feels like town creativity to me.

Dannflor is a high-threat player. I think his approach is common to what I've seen from town Dannflor before - in particular his earlier play really reminded me of this interaction in Swinger's Hall. I like his davesaz push. I don't really see anything missing from his play this game that would make him be scummy.
I thought STD's early play was pretty towny. I think he scumreads me like every game so I couldn't really OMGUS him. T-bone is a good vote
I think I've talked about python a fair bit. I don't think the pushes on them are generally great, I'm not like hyper-confident in this read but their play comes across as town to me.

Black is also a high-threat player. She tends to call me scum, or at least have a feeling I'm scum, so it's kind of uncomfortable she is not doing that this game. Even so, I'm not sure this is what scum Black would look like. She doesn't really feel like a deepwolf this game. She feels more like she is just vibing.
Drew is someone I usually struggle to read. Well, it'd be more accurate to say he generally comes off as scummy to me all the time and I try to separate that from things I can actually use to read him. I consistently have no idea what he's talking about which might be town indicative for him.
I've never played with gob but I have read games with gob in them. I think he is also the kind of player I struggle to read, similarly to drew. I get the feeling scum gob might be a bit more extra than this?

Cook is ??? I don't know what she is cooking but it had better be good.
I'm not sure if I was misunderstanding Naerys earlier and my instinct is to just let that go but honestly her posts have not been fantastic regardless. I don't see much solving coming from her.

Davesaz has quite a few game-relevant posts but none of it feels very, uh, juicy? I think the read on gob feels like ... Ok, first of all, I don't think that's an inconsistency, but gob poking holes in light's thought process. I don't expect dave to be super committal early, but his approach to gob and his play in general just don't feel super critical?
I think T-bone is probably still the scummiest player in the game. I hope this was clear from what I said earlier but - I think his thought process in the early interaction with python doesn't make sense. I don't really believe he asks "Why is python so rattled?" as a neutral question, or that such a thing is natural to do. When I asked about it, he said that it could get responses anyway, which is like true to an extent, but 1) you're going to get more responses if you don't make it look like a rhetorical question and 2) I just don't see the thought process that leads to T-bone not thinking python is scummy and asking that. His play feels overly cautious and unnatural to me. This hasn't changed over time; his posts in general don't really feel interested in finding other people's alignments.

[Ausuka]

36 hours left is ._.

I am like an animal adapted for an ecosystem who has been taken out of that ecosystem and dumped into a totally different biome, unable to adapt to my surroundings

[Ausuka]

Like the gamestate just feels super underdeveloped. I blame dannflor who made me sign up for this game

It looks like gob is the only wagon that exists at all? I don't super townread gob but I don't love that elimination either. I'm not sure how we stop vanity voting when all wagons but one are basically vanity votes lol

Happy scumday python btw

[DragonEater70]

Prodding Cook, StD.

[gob]

Black i feel is clearly more townie than not. When she is scum she’s usually more locked into a certain path. In this one she really feels like a townie who needs to make her own content. Hence why she had her read on me. I thought it was a bad read, as in it was inaccurate, but overall the play of prodding me with an SR is good.

I do agree with Ausuka, i think the day is a bit underdeveloped.

I could go davesaz i guess, given that he’s been relatively quiet for day 1. I dont really SR him, but i think hes still in his scumrange. My preference is still python ofc.

Ausuka’s recent posts ive agreed wirh for the most part.


Anyway, what does everyone think about the idea that there are one or two wolves on my wagon? I feel like given how quickly it ran up to 4 or 5 or whatever, and knowing that Black is more likely town trying to pressure me. So davesaz, Drew.

I feel like drew is always on me in every game so i also am willing tk clear him.

[Naerys]

Anyway, what does everyone think about the idea that there are one or two wolves on my wagon? I feel like given how quickly it ran up to 4 or 5 or whatever, and knowing that Black is more likely town trying to pressure me. So davesaz, Drew.

why not light

[gob]

Anyway, what does everyone think about the idea that there are one or two wolves on my wagon? I feel like given how quickly it ran up to 4 or 5 or whatever, and knowing that Black is more likely town trying to pressure me. So davesaz, Drew.

why not light

could be i was just listing the people i knew off the top of my head

for what it’s worth but though, i dont really see as many partners for light compared to Dave and drew. Dave could really go with anyone considering how detached he’s been imo.

That is one thing i guess going for python, the fact python has taken strong stances, however i feel like they are scum and doing scum things pretty clearly. I am gonna stick with my read

[Save The Dragons]

no taste for a tbone wagon?

[Ausuka]

I HAVE THE TASTE

[Save The Dragons]

let us all feast on Tbone steaks

[Save The Dragons]

gob feels town. i could probably go for a gob voter

[Cook]

VOTE: python

i think ranger’s readslist is wrong and while gob’s wagon is justified he’ll flip town

[light_ganski]

Alright how about the peoppe voting me talk to me.

I am ready tk answer any questions. I stand by all my plays and reads. I feel like there are also at least 2 wolves on my wagon given how quick things ran up.

I dont want to die day 1 so, get off and stuff everyone

Hi yes I have a question pls

Did you townread Naerys only bcos of sharing her feelings on the gamestate, or something else?