Open 901 - Normal Idea Mafia Redux - Postgame

[SirCakez]

You say that scum kill failing twice is very unlikely but you think that whatever caused your action to fail twice in a row is what happened, that's crazy cognitive dissonance

[SirCakez]

I do, because I don't believe you. I don't care for bargaining with wolves

You are scum or have trash reads this game

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm not saying it failed twice in a row because of a block.
It was N1.

I'm saying you're a wolf, therefore it failed.
Or you're ascetic therefore it failed.

My check has nothing to do with it

[SirCakez]

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5. Your counterargument to me saying "you could have overlooked SK existed 100% of the time" was "I would be stupid to claim vig as an SK in an SK game" which was not a counter to what I was saying at all so it feels disingenuous even when my argument was half joking.

Wtf does this even mean??

[SirCakez]

I'm not saying it failed twice in a row because of a block.
It was N1.

I'm saying you're a wolf, therefore it failed.
Or you're ascetic therefore it failed.

My check has nothing to do with it

If I'm a wolf how did NM die n1?

[JacksonVirgo]

You are scum or have trash reads this game

Nice one, you got me bro

[SirCakez]

I try my best

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm not saying it failed twice in a row because of a block.
It was N1.

I'm saying you're a wolf, therefore it failed.
Or you're ascetic therefore it failed.

My check has nothing to do with it

If I'm a wolf how did NM die n1?

I have no way of knowing

[Black]

Cakez what gives you the impression StD has been motivated and assertive this game

[JacksonVirgo]

I admit if I'm wrong I'm heavily conf-biased but everything is lining up to you being wolf

[JacksonVirgo]

ok but I can confirm this very easily tonight lol
fake claiming vig as SK in a setup with a CONFIRMED SK? that would be moronic

What were you referring to with this post

[SirCakez]

ok I'm being salty and mean I'm going to step away for a bit so I don't say something else regrettable, sorry JV (I know you probably think this is a scum mind game or whatever if you're town but whatever)

I'm very frustrated that my claim was forced out here and that I'm instead getting treated like this despite how confirmable my claim is and I really want to use this to accomplish something instead of getting eliminated today without even getting to use my second shot because that would really fucking blow

[JacksonVirgo]

No it's okay, I realised I was being the same so I felt like levelling myself and trying to understand you a little bit more than to jump to conclusions.

[JacksonVirgo]

Sorry for calling what you did a bronze rank strat

[Argonauts]

Wow, I was wondering if I was seriously the only one who actually checked what role Cakez could have when he claimed ascetic miller. Guess so. Crazy.

It was frigging obvious to me that he's the one who shot Not_Mafia since I did do that. Sorry you guys weren't paying enough attention.

Black, you want a lurker wagon, we'redown to VOTE: Skygazer~

-Atalanta

[Alianna]

3.05

Votecount 3.05

SirCakez (E-2): JacksonVirgo, Skygazer, Black
Skygazer (2): SirCakez, Argonauts
Black (1): Jake The Wolfie
shaddowez (1): Save The Dragons

Not Voting (2): lucca261, shaddowez

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).

[lucca261]

Sure, let's go

VOTE: Skygazer

[Jake The Wolfie]

Jackson, be not afraid, for I am writing up a response to your post.

[Black]

VOTE: Skygazer

[Skygazer]

i am a town neighbour

[Jake The Wolfie]

I believe it. Who can vouch for you?

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm a little ashamed to admit this considering how confident I was a moment ago but I do think that realistically it would be a little bit silly to assume scum would claim that role specifically unless they were doing a gambit, as I'm assuming scum have a reasonable idea of the role they're going to be claiming especially given how early they claimed ascetic miller. I still believe how they've been acting is scummy, I think I'm still trying to convince myself I'm right as I'm like "yeah but we're so close to ELo that it would make sense to delay their flip" but like they would have had to have planned for this moment from the start which is incredibly unlikely.

The biggest problem I'm seeing with Cakez that I haven't said yet is that it doesn't feel like he's treating me the way he's saying he thinks about me. I'm not talking about the "why didn't you shoot me" but the fact he's saying I've cleared him when like logical thought was obviously say that it isn't the case. Not just because a loyal check wouldn't make a difference if he was real or fake (excluding town fake-claiming), but the fact he's holding the result to a weight that I don't really expect him to hold it at considering his stance on me seemed to be leaning more into distrust as our conversation grew.

[JacksonVirgo]

^ about Cakez. Not Skygazer

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson, be not afraid, for I am writing up a response to your post.

Thanks brother

[JacksonVirgo]

Now that I'm thinking further, of course Town would think it verified them. Scum would be kinda silly to make that argument knowing that it wasn't inherently a clear