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[ProjEctRy]

I guess same question to you Gypyx.

I feel like nobody has actually given a justified reason for the wagon on me. Ketchup’s was voting me largely because I voted him. Then Dann and Black were voting, I believe, because I hadn’t posted enough. I appreciate the scum lurking in the shadows aspect, but that is weak. It’s early days and I’m just preoccupied with IRL things (although I appreciate the wagon was formed before I mentioned this).

I’m curious as to motives of those that jumped on my wagon for what I believe to be weak reasons.

[Black]

I'm kinda disappointed the Project wagon broke down and I'm not really sure why it happened

I'll try to read up later tonight but it'll probably be tomorrow

@Black - why are you leaning scum on me?

It’s early days and I’m just preoccupied with IRL things (although I appreciate the wagon was formed before I mentioned this).

Because you still don't have a profile pic

It doesn't feel like you're trying to solve anyone. Your ISO is essentially pushing ketchup and defending yourself. I don't think being defensive is scummy but when it's mixed with very little reads or thoughts about other players then I feel worse about it. I don't really know what you think about any player in the game not named Ketchup

I just noticed your post about the property and I'll consider being busy in IRL as as something that might effect your playstyle. I don't think it being "early days" is a valid excuse though

[Gypyx]

I guess same question to you Gypyx.

I feel like nobody has actually given a justified reason for the wagon on me. Ketchup’s was voting me largely because I voted him. Then Dann and Black were voting, I believe, because I hadn’t posted enough. I appreciate the scum lurking in the shadows aspect, but that is weak. It’s early days and I’m just preoccupied with IRL things (although I appreciate the wagon was formed before I mentioned this).

I’m curious as to motives of those that jumped on my wagon for what I believe to be weak reasons.

i think you're tonally scummy, i can elaborate if you need to but basically i just don't think you are actually unaware of everyone alignement / not a fan of your tone

[iamveryhappy]

oh have we finally shifted from going through pmeta stuff
yay

[Doctor Drew]

Luca is my biggest townread, followed by ketchup I think.

Luca ya, but what why catsup?

Seems naturally town

Meh, will need some examples for that, they seem a bit tight to me.

I'm kinda disappointed the Project wagon broke down and I'm not really sure why it happened

I'll try to read up later tonight but it'll probably be tomorrow

I know I haven't been as present as possible, but I need to check them out.....but not sure what sparked the wagon?

Dann can you tl;dr your Drew scumread

I would also love this.....since he basically decided to have one and then just work backwards.

[iamveryhappy]

I've been really busy these days, I'm going to post around this time tmr when I have a clear view on the game. No troll.

[Luca Blight]

I'm getting a little impatient for the likes of Delta to get into the game. She is due a prod any minute now, so hopefully this will change soon. I think I have enough reads to go on for now anyway, so let's start to bring the day to a close.

VOTE: Dannflor

[Hu Tao]

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[ketchup777]

This probably seems super dodgy but whatever.

My perspective on dann has changed. Maybe having essentially 2 days off helped me to come back with a new outlook, but now looking at it it feels like he’s been doing too much and I am scared of how powerful he could become if we don’t vote him out now. I still am not convinced why bugs was getting so much slander at the start, but looking at dans posts (111 of them!) it just feels as if he’s done too much? And is too desperate? I don’t want to put him in e-1 right before I go to sleep, so dann, you have one last chance to convince me, but if not, I’m voting you in 9 hours or so from now.

If this is wrong, at least we get a lot of information hopefully, as someone pointed out. I think this is for the best.

[Psyche]

ugh oh boy ugh so we are really forcing the dannflor question huh

[ketchup777]

i think it's a good thing to give dannflor a chance to save himself

Nows your chance potential bestie

[ketchup777]

ugh oh boy ugh so we are really forcing the dannflor question huh

I guess we are (:
unless he gets hammered before he wakes up

[Doctor Drew]

ugh oh boy ugh so we are really forcing the dannflor question huh

I do almost feel better limming Ketchup here though

[ketchup777]

ugh oh boy ugh so we are really forcing the dannflor question huh

I do almost feel better limming Ketchup here though

methinks that would not be in your best interests if you’re town

[DeltaWave]

UNVOTE: Ketchup

I really got behind this weekend so my catch up is going to have to be first thing tomorrow morning. But I guess Ketchup is null because the stuff I found scummy could just be from a super new player.

[Psyche]

i'm worried about admitting it in case i change my mind
but overall i'm more ambivalent about dann's slot than i was before my re-read
this makes it harder to muster the white knighting i planned for this scenario
plus i really am struggling to pull together an alternative scumread that i feel genuinely good about
i need to hurry up and stop being so lameee

[Dannflor]

I’ll be around tonifht

[Psyche]

i am whining too much

I’d agree with OWER on the Ketchup post at 323.

It’s the feel of I want everyone to remember this. I’m not part of this etc. It reads fake. Its laying groundwork for a future defence.

I don’t think town need to make such comment and experienced scum wouldn’t make the comment so it seems like a newbie-scum comment.

by the way, i don't agree w the interpretion of ketchup's 323 (my impression lines up more w black's), but this post takes projectry off the table for me
it meaningfully builds on ower's initial reaction to the post and also it does so in a pretty understated way that indicates the opposite of performativity.
projectry essentially announces that he's parroting ower but imo he paints a much fuller picture of how someone might see a scum mindset in 323. ower's explanation by comparison almost looks like it's describing a gutread by comparison.
i feel like scum, being more focused on building town equity than on actually sorting players, would make a much bigger deal of their differences from of elaboration of ower here instead of acting like they're sheeping.

that said, i really don't think the characterization of ketchup's 323 is right.
people are reading "at least I know I wasn't part of it" as "at least

yall

know I wasn't part of it" -- or at least as implicitly expressing this sentiment, but these really are different statements. the latter would be focused on the shift's consequences for ketchup's reputation, but the former just expresses the sort of self-focused handwringing and indecision that might normally accompany big read swings. consequently rings more town to me than anything.

also it's not like the post was just some offhand comment -- ketchup had been directly asked to explain his shift on dannflor.

[Psyche]

yes i did exaggerate my initial scum read on drew to get a reaction but i am not inspired by how drew has continued to engage with me / the game as a whole

dannny
what prompted this post?

[Doctor Drew]

yes i did exaggerate my initial scum read on drew to get a reaction but i am not inspired by how drew has continued to engage with me / the game as a whole

dannny
what prompted this post?

Maybe this will help getting him to answer

VOTE: Dann

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[Psyche]

aw cmon

[Doctor Drew]

aw cmon

What's the issue?

[Hu Tao]

Quick. Someone hammer

[Dannflor]

I’ll be around in an hour or two

[Dannflor]

I would request you kindly unvote