Open 902: Frienemies Blitz | Postgame

[JacksonVirgo]

Bloop to show that I already have more posts than Cook

[JacksonVirgo]

Looking at Ganski's readlist more closely. I am aware I don't have game context, don't @ me but like the lower tiers are literally all what I would generally consider easy pushes. I really don't like that

[gob]

Jackson you replaced into an open wolf basically.

[JacksonVirgo]

Cool, anyway

[Doctor Drew]

Why are there multiple people lowkey(and not so lowkey) defending gob??

Do you consider it unreasonable to defend gob here?

Less the actual defense, then the why of the defense.

I agree with you that the last post feels like townGob, I feel like at least one of (Dann, Dave, Ranger) is scum trying to use my vote/case on gob to push me.

Ranger really isn't, and would be way more nuanced as scum since she is on the wagon, but keeps pushing Light, who as I said Dann already called me buddies with them.

Dave didn't have an issue with my vote on gob until Dann really started to push me more.

I am starting to think gob was just a pawn(most likely not scum here), and Dann is the connecting lynchpin here

VOTE: Dann

[JacksonVirgo]

Little time left, gotta crank out my catchup ASAP but for right now

VOTE: Ganski

[JacksonVirgo]

Why are there multiple people lowkey(and not so lowkey) defending gob??

Do you consider it unreasonable to defend gob here?

Less the actual defense, then the why of the defense.

I agree with you that the last post feels like townGob, I feel like at least one of (Dann, Dave, Ranger) is scum trying to use my vote/case on gob to push me.

Ranger really isn't, and would be way more nuanced as scum since she is on the wagon, but keeps pushing Light, who as I said Dann already called me buddies with them.

Dave didn't have an issue with my vote on gob until Dann really started to push me more.

I am starting to think gob was just a pawn(most likely not scum here), and Dann is the connecting lynchpin here

VOTE: Dann

What do you mean exactly by "the why of the defense" it feels clear to me you just dislike that people are defending gob at all, rather than you asking why people are defending. "Why are there multiple" instead of "why are multiple".

[JacksonVirgo]

If I'm wrong, of course correct me

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: cook

[Doctor Drew]

Why are there multiple people lowkey(and not so lowkey) defending gob??

Do you consider it unreasonable to defend gob here?

Less the actual defense, then the why of the defense.

I agree with you that the last post feels like townGob, I feel like at least one of (Dann, Dave, Ranger) is scum trying to use my vote/case on gob to push me.

Ranger really isn't, and would be way more nuanced as scum since she is on the wagon, but keeps pushing Light, who as I said Dann already called me buddies with them.

Dave didn't have an issue with my vote on gob until Dann really started to push me more.

I am starting to think gob was just a pawn(most likely not scum here), and Dann is the connecting lynchpin here

VOTE: Dann

What do you mean exactly by "the why of the defense" it feels clear to me you just dislike that people are defending gob at all, rather than you asking why people are defending. "Why are there multiple" instead of "why are multiple".

Wut?

Dann didn't start his real push on me until I voted Gob, Dave didn't have an issue with my vote until Dann really pushed me, Ranger has been throwing shade at Light(and even trying to get Dann on her side), even though she has gob lowish on her list.

Something is amiss in all that.

[JacksonVirgo]

@usesPython

, why do you use python. It's so atrocious

[JacksonVirgo]

Seems there's some confusion, I'll wait to catch up and then come back to you

[Doctor Drew]

Also, gob does not have a style as town that you will say 'oh he is clearly town here'

So for three people to make sure he isn't the lim means that:

A. He is scum
B. He is being used by scum

[light_ganski]

{ranger, save the dragons, ausuka, usespython}
{t-bone, black}
{doctor drew, davesaz}
{dannflor}
{naerys, cook}
{gob}

Can you explain your top tier reads some more?

Can you explain your second tier some more?

Can you explain your gob read some more and if gob's posting has changed anything with the read from the page (e.g. 657)?

Gonna be v quick so I'll try to be concise

Yourself your entry and attempted solve seemed v town motivated and gut is telling me that motivation shows thru ur more recent posts
Ausuka I mostly agree w the logic behind her 537 readslist even if i disagree with the read on tbone and the soft read on gob and got decent gut feelings from her iso
Python I scumread from early on but I thought their vibes got better as they went thru, I felt like they actually started to advance the gamestate + I didnt and dont like the wagon on them and I just cannot see them as scum with any of gob/dannflor/cook/naerys unless I'm missing something
STD basically good gut feelings after thinking they were a bit fluffy earlier on

T-bone I cannot get around the push on him? Maybe I'll have to look again but at the same time I don't want to lim this today
Black has seemed fluffy at times but I agreed w her earlier questioning of gob and her asking after my gob vote helped develop my thoughts from the initial case, I don't really agree w your case there even though I think it was well motivated?

On gob, I still back my case in (524) and I still really don't like the naerys interactions, I didn't hate his answers to my questions but I think also his davesaz and drew reads immediately after the wagon grew seemed v reactive rather than proactive, and I don't like the python push and don't see the town motivation behind it. 657 again from my perspective I cannot see the motivation behind the python + ausuka push
+who hopped on the wagon w me doesn't fit with my scumreads, the lowest 'd be davesaz and drew and neither has given me bad vibes lately
Gob wld still be my preferred eliminate

I'd format this better but I really must get to sleep

PEdit @ JacksonVirgo I Could prob break the top tier down to {ranger}{the rest} but I think all of them are townblock for now, see above

[JacksonVirgo]

i don't think it's a PT slip but i think it could be something else, want more clarity

as for T-bone you silly goose i have 2 blue mana untapped you know what that means?

Spoiler:

Fool. It aint a spell card, was a trap card.

[usesPython]

@usesPython

, why do you use python. It's so atrocious

What do you mean there's a problem with using

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["odd" if x%2 else "even" for x in range(1,101)]

It's perfectly readable and maintainable

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm just gonna blast through it, I don't have time to be slow and in depth. I can clarify after the fact it people want it.

30 Black feels overly stiff.
90 getting pinged by what I would consider aNAI post? @Black if you remember this far back, can you place what pinged you here. You're also referring to Naerys but you're referencing a post by STD?

Ah you clarified that, makes more sense. I don't have thoughts either way about this now

95 gob being a pro gamer. If Ganski is a wolf, I really think Gob is Town. This also makes me feel better about my read but I'll try not to conf bias myself into a hole. Them following up on the read in 103 is also a really good sign to me.

106 Black immediately voting, I hope there's good reasoning for that because it looks kinda wack. The reasoning they gave in 123 was lacklustre. It feels like a chainsaw, if that's the right term. Unsure. Although their "more votes on gob please" feels pure (132). The read itself doesn't feel pure though, it feels greatly exaggerated for what it is to try and push them.

At this point in the catchup (as of 155). It'd be pretty hilarious but GTH the solve is Black, Ganski, Dannflor.

Ganski jumping onto Gob in 188 also is like not unexpected given my head canon. Ranger having Black/Dannflor in the scum-reads in 191 is a fun one, makes me feel nice.

Holy shit they're just spamming tierlists.

Black back on the "yo les do gob, lesduit". That's like majority of their posts it seems like at this point (270). Like literally every post of theirs up to 318 seems to have a gob push in it more likely than not.

Black asked why Gob town-reads her, he anwers and I don't see Black responding to Gob. Will post another thing if this was found later but this is just as bad if she didn't respond back. Cuz that would mean it was likely asked in a way to try and trap Gob even further but couldn't see much to work with. A few pages past and haven't seen it, if I missed it please point it out to me.

I aint reading that wallpost by Dann in 398

625 T-Bone "Yes but the tone of that question is meh" in regards to Dannflor I completely agree with. It felt antagonistic.


Spewed this out as fast as I could. Enjoy

[JacksonVirgo]

Black is probably the most optimal elim from my reads. But cuz I wanna be a pro gamer and hero-shot a wolf immediately upon repping in I also want ganski.

[gob]

blue eyes pink gobln

[gob]

Also, gob does not have a style as town that you will say 'oh he is clearly town here'

So for three people to make sure he isn't the lim means that:

A. He is scum
B. He is being used by scum

LOL

[JacksonVirgo]

So for three people to make sure he isn't the lim means that:

A. He is scum
B. He is being used by scum

So for Gob, this is

A. He is scum
B. He is town

[gob]

Black is probably the most optimal elim from my reads.

Maybe foor you who JUST replaced in but from my standpoint, and i think honestly objectively sorta, black is not the optimal elim today from almost every angle

[JacksonVirgo]

Wut?

I'll ask again I guess.
Do you think gob shouldn't be defended?
Because from your wording, it appears you don't think he should be defended more so that you dislike the reasons people are defending him from.

This other wagon stuff isn't really what I asked you. Unless I'm misunderstanding

[Alianna]

~•~

[JacksonVirgo]

Maybe foor you who JUST replaced in but from my standpoint, and i think honestly objectively sorta, black is not the optimal elim today from almost every angle

Respectfully, I don't care. I said optimal from my reads