Open 901 - Normal Idea Mafia Redux - Postgame

[Alianna]

3.07

Votecount 3.07

Skygazer (E-1): SirCakez, Argonauts, lucca261, Black
shaddowez (2): Save The Dragons, JacksonVirgo
SirCakez (1): Skygazer
Black (1): Jake The Wolfie

Not Voting (1): shaddowez

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-05 20:12:42).

[JacksonVirgo]

Yeah I don't think Sky is the way to go

[JacksonVirgo]

For today anyway

[Jake The Wolfie]

For Brevity:

(In point 3)

I don't see a lack of clear interpretation in those posts, I see she's confident that it was made to make me look worse which was what I had concluded as well. Can you elaborate further as to why you see it the way you do?

I think i misread that post by Black. I thought it was saying that Black was both saying that Lucca was scumreading you (presumably, as town) while also saying that Lucca was shading you (presumably, as a wolf)

(In point 8)

What are you making of that? If it was mostly about mafia theory, why does that reflect on her alignment. I'll wait to say my full thoughts for when you answer that

I made of it as more evidence to confirm that the earlier convo was about mechanics.

Speaking of that...

(In point 1)

It's not about the outcome that I'm reading into, just because somebody agrees with someone else doesn't make it AI (on its own anyway). I think that the way they were doing it and the way they followed up that showed natural progression on a read rather than one forced to change because of foolproof logic from the god amongst men, JV

I can see how it's a natural progression for someone to take, but the important part is that this would be true regardless of alignment.
The conversation wasn't about anything game-related, but instead about mafia philosophy and theory.

[JacksonVirgo]

At work so I’ll respond back to you later

[Black]

I'm here today but I won't be able to read what I missed until I get off work

[Argonauts]

Eh, it's basically all Jackson and Jake pontificating about you, and Sky claimed neighbor with no neighbors. Didn't miss much.

-Atalanta

[Black]

and Sky claimed neighbor with no neighbors

Wtf

[Black]

Yeah I don't think Sky is the way to go

Why not

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m just not really feeling it

[Black]

Can you elaborate on that feeling at all

[JacksonVirgo]

I can try in a sec

[JacksonVirgo]

It’ll likely be stream of consciousness so I got no idea how legible it’ll be

[Black]

No rush. We have 7 days

[Black]

UNVOTE:

Consider myself still on Sky, I just don't really want a hammer atm

[JacksonVirgo]

Can you elaborate on that feeling at all

I just really really liked their early game, and thinking about it for what it is I don't think how they're acting right now to take from that read. Recency bias overtook me for a little bit + filling a void because the people I scum-read hard kept becoming people I started to town-read heavily again (Jake) and Cakez being like objectively a silly wagon today I just wanted to fill that gap but thinking objectively. I still kinda like Stargazer, I will probably do an ISO-dive like I did with you to see if I do agree with those posts that I think are townie (from memory) but really I think we focus Shadow today

[Skygazer]

i'm on team lets not vote out skygazer

[Argonauts]

i'm on team lets not vote out skygazer

I am always on Team Skygazer

Unfortunately for you, the team what wants to vote you out

Also, and maybe this is a Drew read(err, Asclepius read), but it feels to me that this wagon kinda stagnating and even people hopping off makes me feel like scum thought the wagon would naturally dissipate.......but lack of activity these past few days have forced the hand of the members of scum to leave the wagon to make sure their buddy is not limmed.

Like, usually an early day wagon doesn't stick, so no need for scum to worry too much.......but this one has stuck, with no real counter wagon.

This obviously is only relevant if Sky is Team Scumbutt, but just was something I was thinking about at work today.

-Asclepius

[Save The Dragons]

i'm still unsure i want to vote out skygazer

i think scum is unlikely to make that claim. it's possible but seems rather unlikely. i also kinda liked her day 1 play

[Save The Dragons]

i feel like shadow comes from a place of actively not doing anything, where skygazer comes from an "idgaf im town" mindset

could be wrong but i think that's where i'm at

[Black]

Nah, I think this is scum!sky

I feel like there is usually a point in Sky's town games where she buckles down and really starts to think critically about the game. I haven't seen that at all here. She's just coasting

Like I think sky posts reactively a lot but when she's town there's usually a moment where she feels guilty about not doing anything and then starts to be proactive for a bit before she slides off into obscurity again. I've seen it after her being pushed before but she got to e-1 and she's still just lurking around

[Black]

To me it feels like she doesn't really know how to believably seem like she's solving the game in the current game state. There are no signs of sky's town games here. No partner theories, no firm stances, no questioning people, no analyzing behaviors or posts or anything. There are no critical thoughts about the game

[Black]

I also think the entire Sky wagon is town

[Black]

VOTE: Sky

e-1 again

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Sky

e-1 again

Does that mean you're okay with a hammer now?