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[Gypyx]

Because Outworld understood it as a joke too?

[Gypyx]

like idk i'm sorry cause i'm feeling kinda mean saying that but where exactly is outworld taking my solve seriously? his argument even views it more as an attack of the "Let me put out my solve" mindset, which it was in the end i guess

[Black]

I'm not getting the vibe that OWER thought your solve wasn't a real thought but maybe I'm just missing it

[Black]

always thought she was town and i still do to this day ! I swear on my momma

Like if this is true then obviously the solve was a joke but I'm not seeing how it was so obviously a meme, even with the context

What is your read on OWER?

[Gypyx]

i think this kill makes him scummier but i kinda wanna trust dann's read so i'm putting him in "not today" territory

[Black]

i think this kill makes him scummier but i kinda wanna trust dann's read so i'm putting him in "not today" territory

That's fair. Did you have a read on him D1?

[Gypyx]

Don't recall being captivated by outworld but his day1 had a general aura of towniness, i recall his handling of dann slot being pretty good

where's this going exactly? feels like you're half-trying to catch me in some kind of slip without much aim

[Black]

i guess OWER has a bit of the "i need to talk like a townie would" energy but that's certainely no D1 worthy stuff

the drew vote is also very bad and i see it as Dann looking for a way to confibias himself into creating a wagon on drew?

VOTE: Dannflor

It seems like you were at least mildly suspicious of OWER here, and you clearly thought Dann was probably scum, so why would you consider the below solves to be "not meaningful" and "ridiculous"?

Dann/OutWorld/someone else mkes sense to me. Maybe iavh

I think it's Dann/OutWorld/iavh right now as well.

I guess we shall see.

[Black]

where's this going exactly? feels like you're half-trying to catch me in some kind of slip without much aim

There's a disconnect in what you are saying to me and I'm trying to figure out why that is

[Gypyx]

i guess OWER has a bit of the "i need to talk like a townie would" energy but that's certainely no D1 worthy stuff

the drew vote is also very bad and i see it as Dann looking for a way to confibias himself into creating a wagon on drew?

VOTE: Dannflor

It seems like you were at least mildly suspicious of OWER here, and you clearly thought Dann was probably scum, so why would you consider the below solves to be "not meaningful" and "ridiculous"?

Dann/OutWorld/someone else mkes sense to me. Maybe iavh

I think it's Dann/OutWorld/iavh right now as well.

I guess we shall see.

i guess i was huh, would you look at that

and yeah i mean, my point wasn't that the people in the solves weren't scum (even if it seems like they aren't in the end) it's that making whole solves in day 1 kinda leads to nowhere? by day 3, the time you can finally (hopefully) try to look at the whole scumteam, nobody is gonna look at day 1 for additional wisdom, while during day 1, unless you've got a big associative all or nothing scumread, what's the point of pointing at a group? we're figuring out individuals here

look, i think we can keep going like that for very long but this is getting pretty boring from my side

[OutWorldER]

like idk i'm sorry cause i'm feeling kinda mean saying that but where exactly is outworld taking my solve seriously? his argument even views it more as an attack of the "Let me put out my solve" mindset, which it was in the end i guess

I'm not getting the vibe that OWER thought your solve wasn't a real thought but maybe I'm just missing it

i assume this argument revolves around 694 in which case yes I interpreted the solve as a joke

that's actually the specific problem I had with that post

[OutWorldER]

like from my POV I thought Dann was fairly townie once he was allowed to get going so I just don't believe that there weren't scum riding Luca's tunnel all the way to his mislim

Probably too easy to read Dann's slot as townie when you already know his alignment.

There was nothing particularly indicative of him being town until later in the day

, when his fate was virtually sealed, in my opinion.

you're saying this like this an objective statement

Well, from what I can see you've never really explained your Dann TR beyond '

he looks townier than Bugs

'. So, while my statement was indeed undeniably subjective, it's difficult to really follow your progression on this read.

i never really got the chance to explain. i thought Dann was townier than bugs because he was still attempting to solve despite his position in the game. in particular I was of the mindset that his interactions towards Drew didn't come from scum in his position.

[Jacob24]

VOTE: ketchup

Still think that ketchup seems scummy. Also Lucca looks bad now for their bad ready of bugs/Dann.

[Psyche]

i feel the opposite. any reasonably experienced player can simulate attempting to solve. dann was scummier than bugs, just more polished. his drew vote and some posts prosecuting the wagon (e.g., where he solicits a "pressure" vote on drew from another slot) read as insincere compared to bugspray's consistently defiant messiness. made it very hard to marshall the resolve to defend dann as game progressed, and now makes it harder to interpret how people positioned around the wagon.

[ketchup777]

VOTE: ketchup

Still think that ketchup seems scummy. Also Lucca looks bad now for their bad ready of bugs/Dann.

i think this is a very shallow post. want to give any reasoning? have you read back over all the 500+ posts you’ve missed yet? I don’t think Luca necessarily looks bad, mistakes happen, although I agree somewhat we need to be a bit more careful than before.

[ketchup777]

i feel the opposite. any reasonably experienced player can simulate attempting to solve. dann was scummier than bugs, just more polished. his drew vote and some posts prosecuting the wagon (e.g., where he solicits a "pressure" vote on drew from another slot) read as insincere compared to bugspray's consistently defiant messiness. made it very hard to marshall the resolve to defend dann as game progressed, and now makes it harder to interpret how people positioned around the wagon.

yeah Dann’s smooth talking had me pooping my pants I had to know if he was scum or not

[ketchup777]

i feel the opposite. any reasonably experienced player can simulate attempting to solve. dann was scummier than bugs, just more polished. his drew vote and some posts prosecuting the wagon (e.g., where he solicits a "pressure" vote on drew from another slot) read as insincere compared to bugspray's consistently defiant messiness. made it very hard to marshall the resolve to defend dann as game progressed, and now makes it harder to interpret how people positioned around the wagon.

yeah Dann’s smooth talking had me pooping my pants I had to know if he was scum or not

for the people who take everything literally, I would like to clarify this one is a hyperbole.

[Black]

VOTE: ketchup

Still think that ketchup seems scummy. Also Lucca looks bad now for their bad ready of bugs/Dann.

You haven't posted in almost a week. Is this all you have?

[Black]

i feel the opposite. any reasonably experienced player can simulate attempting to solve. dann was scummier than bugs, just more polished. his drew vote and some posts prosecuting the wagon (e.g., where he solicits a "pressure" vote on drew from another slot) read as insincere compared to bugspray's consistently defiant messiness. made it very hard to marshall the resolve to defend dann as game progressed, and now makes it harder to interpret how people positioned around the wagon.

Do you have any fully cooked reads you are willing to share?

[Black]

I think Dann was right. We let too many people skate by D1 without participating much or giving any reads. We probably shouldn't do that moving forward

[Thomith]

Votecount 2.3

Votecount 2.3

Gypyx (2):

Black, ProjEctRy

ProjEctRy (2):

OutWorldER, Hu Tao

Black (1):

Gypyx

Luca Blight (1):

Doctor Drew

Jacob24 (1):

ketchup777

ketchup777 (1):

Jacob24

Not Voting (2):

Luca Blight, Psyche

With 10 Alive, it takes 6 to secure an execution, and 5 to secure a no execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-10 18:21:39)

Mod Notes

None

[Thomith]

ProjEctRy has requested replacement

[Gypyx]

how funny would it be if we had 8 1-person wagons

pedit : hmmm well, i was gonna try to consolidate on project but that can wait for now

[ketchup777]

ProjEctRy has requested replacement

oop hope your irl stuff works out Project

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: ketchup

Still think that ketchup seems scummy. Also Lucca looks bad now for their bad ready of bugs/Dann.

That's a little hypocritical - didn't you also scum read that slot? It seemed like you were as tunnelled as I was.