Mini Normal 2322: Game Over

Hu Tao · Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:25 pm

Bloop ^

Hu Tao · Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:28 pm

He probably figured he could get someone else eliminated yesterday. And could save me for today to be the miselim

Hu Tao · Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:32 pm

Yes I would do that. Because if you can get the harder vote out with more people it makes it easier

Hu Tao · Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:19 am

In post 3782, Flavor Leaf wrote: Hu Tao is scum here dragon.

Hu Tao flips scum, jail Purple, probably. If a kill goes through, Pav or Geraint is scum 100%.

If Hu Tao is scum, I’m vigging Dragon.

If Dragon and I both die, and game continues, game goes to Purple as conf town against Geraint or Pav scum, just vote Pav in that scenario, Purple.

You're wrong here. I've already explained why I'm not aligned with hpe. You asked why pav would kill RN? Because he knows that you suspect me and Dragon. Why would he not?

Hu Tao · Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:37 am

VOTE: Dragon

Hu Tao · Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:44 pm

In post 3793, Pavowski wrote:
In post 3788, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Dragon
This is so out of left field. Your last solve was me/purple. Please to explain

Maybe I was pocketed. Besides hpe my reads have been terrible all game. And even hpe I unvoted day 1, maybe I just need a reset

Hu Tao · Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:46 pm

Or if he's scum we lose regardless unless we vote scum here

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:31 am

In post 3812, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 3788, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Dragon
???????

What?

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:50 am

What's wrong with me thinking you might be scum?

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:22 am

In post 3824, DragonEater70 wrote: The fact there is no reasoning attached?

I stated it after

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:22 am

In post 3825, DragonEater70 wrote: The fact that you have correct meta about me, know how to read me, I am in my town meta, and have done nothing for your read on me to suddeny change?

So am I scum then?

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:12 am

I do think it's possible that I needed a reset. And its not like scum can quick vote right now so I don't see the issue of voting you at the moment dragon

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:04 am

In post 3847, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3840, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 3838, Hu Tao wrote: I do think it's possible that I needed a reset. And its not like scum can quick vote right now so I don't see the issue of voting you at the moment dragon
The issue is not with voting me, it's with the lack of reasoning. But you know what, I'll let you have a reset.

I think I might need a reset myself.
Hu Tao hasn’t given reasons for majority of her reads all game, why is it only now bothering you?

We had to deal with that all game.

Yeah that's why I was confused

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:05 pm

In post 3855, Pavowski wrote:
In post 3845, Flavor Leaf wrote: Okay, full disclosure.

I don’t have more vig shots. I was 2-shot.

It’s another reason I was skeptical of Dragon with them claiming 2-shot earlier and then retracting.

In post 3846, Flavor Leaf wrote: So if we misfade, we lose.
If dragon is scum and we misfade, we lose.

If dragon is town and we misfade, he could potentially jail the killer or protect the kill target... Right?

If he's town then scum just shoot him.

Hu Tao · Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:22 am

I'm town

Hu Tao · Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:49 pm

Looks like we can't come to a consensus

Hu Tao · Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:20 am

??

What are you talking about I literally explained my reason?

Hu Tao · Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:21 am

In post 269, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 236, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 233, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Lemme check myself before taking someone this one is wary of at face value
Okay checks out thank you :salute:
VOTE: Laplacian
Looks like you're just voting them since you're getting heat too.

VOTE: HPE

In post 270, Hu Tao wrote: Might be because I don't see the reason for the Lap scumread though

In post 277, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 240, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 236, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 233, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Lemme check myself before taking someone this one is wary of at face value
Okay checks out thank you :salute:
VOTE: Laplacian
To elaborate this one disagrees on Abne doing nothing but illusory acts of help, but more importantly just doesn't really think there's that "comedic veneer" from Pavowski and that 46 and 51 are secretly totally serious. ESPECIALLY not a fan of the sudden mood change after a reread, compare and contrast how 226 and 228 talk about Pavowski. Still don't like those early posts but certainly willing to write things off. It reeks of "scum failed to get people to kill this guy so they're walking away and saying 'yeah but i think they're cool now'".
Okay. You actually explained the read nvm.

UNVOTE:

In post 321, Hu Tao wrote: All roads always lead back to this VOTE: HPE

In post 322, Hu Tao wrote: Only thing holding me back is I always scumread it early. HPE has a habit of doing something scummy early and then it's town after flip. Just like the smugglers game. Kyouko, taking your tunnel out of consideration, thoughts on HPE?

In post 325, Hu Tao wrote: Asking kyouko since she was the only one I'm that game where me and hpe was tvt

Hu Tao · Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:23 am

viewtopic.php?t=91984

Read this game. This had just ended when this game started me and hpe was tvt. It's very short. That's why there was some combativness between us.

Hu Tao · Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:24 am

In post 3905, DragonEater70 wrote: Can you give me ONE reason for you voting me over Pavowski/Purple?

I voted you as a test to see if you'd change your read on me or vote me. And you did fairly quickly. Which is why I asked right away if you thought I was scum. If you really soul read me like you claimed all game, you shouldn't have been swayed as quickly as you did

Hu Tao · Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:25 am

In post 3788, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Dragon

In post 3821, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3812, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 3788, Hu Tao wrote: VOTE: Dragon
???????
What?

In post 3823, Hu Tao wrote: What's wrong with me thinking you might be scum?

In post 3833, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3824, DragonEater70 wrote: The fact there is no reasoning attached?
I stated it after

In post 3834, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3825, DragonEater70 wrote: The fact that you have correct meta about me, know how to read me, I am in my town meta, and have done nothing for your read on me to suddeny change?
So am I scum then?

In post 3838, Hu Tao wrote: I do think it's possible that I needed a reset. And its not like scum can quick vote right now so I don't see the issue of voting you at the moment dragon

Hu Tao · Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:34 am

I voted you because I wanted to see if you'd scumread me after. It was a test. And now I think you're scummy for doing so

Hu Tao · Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:36 am

I guess that's true. Maybe you're just paranoid as usual.

UNVOTE:

Hu Tao · Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:36 am

Well maybe not paranoid but on the wrong track and stuck on it.

Hu Tao · Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:22 am

Yeah bad post by pav. Seem to be eager to vote me after seeing you are willing, Dragon

Hu Tao · Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:01 am

VOTE: pav

Hu Tao · Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:54 am

In post 3939, Flavor Leaf wrote: I am locked in, going Hu Tao->Purple.

Locked in on losing then.

Hu Tao · Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:08 am

What are the votes at?

Hu Tao · Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:38 pm

There won't be a quick hammer regardless

Hu Tao · Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:39 pm

Flavor, you know this isn't how I play as scum. So I don't know why you're scumreading me here

Hu Tao · Sat Jan 27, 2024 7:10 am

In post 3968, geraintm wrote:
In post 3943, DragonEater70 wrote: It would be more than mildly annoying if I try to solve which of you is scum only to find out the team is gera/purple.
I love wouldn't be wasting your time, and would have been more proactive on previous days

You think pav is scum right? Why not vote pav?

Hu Tao · Sat Jan 27, 2024 7:10 am

@purple what are your reads today?

Hu Tao · Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:33 am

What's the extra info?

Hu Tao · Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:09 am

Purple who do you even think is scum?

Hu Tao · Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:08 am

In post 3991, DragonEater70 wrote: Lol this is fun

I don't have time for deep analysis today, and I have plans for tomorrow, but the deadline is in 2 days 5 hours.

@geraint will you be online 5 hours to deadline to hammer / work out who we want to vote / whatever?
Or do you prefer to work it out yourself and I'll just come in tomorrow/the day after hammer whoever you choose?
Or should I make a special effort to be online tomorrow anyway despite my plans?

Pedit: what do you mean Pav?

I'm clearly not scum here

Hu Tao · Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:30 am

In post 3995, Flavor Leaf wrote: Only 4 town remain, i am confirmed town.

This means either all 3 on Pav are town and Geraint is scum, or scum is aiming to hit Pav.

? Only 2 on pav right now

Hu Tao · Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:32 am

In post 4001, Flavor Leaf wrote: Oh, i thought Dragon was voting.

Well, my tinfoil of Dragon/Gertaint paranoia coming back.

Literally impossible

if Dragon is scum that's the only way to quickly hammer me and not worry

Hu Tao · Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:32 am

In post 4003, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 4001, Flavor Leaf wrote: Oh, i thought Dragon was voting.

Well, my tinfoil of Dragon/Gertaint paranoia coming back.
???

If it was me/geraint we could have hammered HT ages ago.

Yep

Hu Tao · Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:33 am

In post 4004, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 3993, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 3991, DragonEater70 wrote: Lol this is fun

I don't have time for deep analysis today, and I have plans for tomorrow, but the deadline is in 2 days 5 hours.

@geraint will you be online 5 hours to deadline to hammer / work out who we want to vote / whatever?
Or do you prefer to work it out yourself and I'll just come in tomorrow/the day after hammer whoever you choose?
Or should I make a special effort to be online tomorrow anyway despite my plans?

Pedit: what do you mean Pav?
I'm clearly not scum here
See, you are clearly not scum but Purple, geraint, and even Pav are also clearly not scum

And yet two of you are scum.

And these two are not purple/geraint.

Yes. It's pav and one of the others. I'm more concerned with pav today. Tomorrow I'll worry about the other

Hu Tao · Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:35 am

In post 4011, Flavor Leaf wrote: i am proud of not going on Pav if he is town.

He's not

Hu Tao · Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:20 am

In post 4014, Pavowski wrote: I am though. Like what?

I know you want them to vote me over you, but if you're town you need to entertain the possibility that I am, too. Like nobody in the game is expressing the confidence in their reads of the remaining players as you are with me right now, which is telling

You say this as if you're not voting me

Hu Tao · Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:25 am

In post 4017, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 4014, Pavowski wrote: I am though. Like what?

I know you want them to vote me over you, but if you're town you need to entertain the possibility that I am, too. Like nobody in the game is expressing the confidence in their reads of the remaining players as you are with me right now, which is telling
Is this a scumslip?

If you are town then Hu Tao is confirmed scum to you.

Yes. It is.

Hu Tao · Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:10 am

I can link the game for the reason he tr me

Hu Tao · Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:12 am

Oh wait it's the commercials game you helped mod

Hu Tao · Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:22 am

Getting me voted out?

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:26 am

In post 4035, Pavowski wrote: Remind me who you think my partner is, Hu Tao?

I'm sure you're scum. I'll figure out the other tomorrow.

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:28 am

In post 4040, Flavor Leaf wrote: Purple, Geraint, Hu Tao final 3, who do you all vote in that scenario

I'd have to decide tomorrow. Not sure. I'm unsure why gera is taking so long to vote pav if he scumread pay early and had me as a town read me earlier

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:29 am

In post 4044, Pavowski wrote:
In post 4035, Pavowski wrote: Remind me who you think my partner is, Hu Tao?
Still waiting for this btw

I hadn't posted since then

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:30 am

In post 4045, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 4043, Pavowski wrote: Dragon.did you do your read back for associatives?
Yes, I am currently leaning that it's Hu Tao.

Thing is I am not going to fight becoming conftown.

Yikes

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:31 am

In post 4049, DragonEater70 wrote: Pavowski I swear if you are making up these dumbtells as scum I will murder you post game

Post game will be coming pretty fast if you vote me.

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:31 am

Dragon, why am I even scum here?

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:29 am

In post 4059, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 4057, Hu Tao wrote: Dragon, why am I even scum here?
Idk

I am tired of this game. I see too many reasons why everyone is town and too many reasons why everyone is scum.

Since I am assuming the scumteam is purple + someone, then I think you do look partnered with Purple.

Why did you say yikes about me wanting geraint to vote someone who is confscum to you?

Pretty sure I said yikes to you thinking I'm scum

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 30, 2024 7:31 am

Dragon. I'm town. You've seen me as town. You've seen me as scum. This isn't my scum game. Compare the games.

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:51 am

Can we just hammer pav? They are scum.

Hu Tao · Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:51 am

Dragon stop over thinking it

Hu Tao · Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:21 pm

I was playing this game as my old town meta so that's why dragon had such a town read on me I think. Gg all

Hu Tao · Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:55 am

In post 4138, Thomith wrote: To clarify, the FBI thing wasn't my crumb although it was very funny to see it derail the game for a bit there

I just thought you were very towny so I decided to nk you. We got lucky

Hu Tao · Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:56 am

In post 4139, Dannflor wrote:
In post 4130, Flavor Leaf wrote: And that’s been a big reason the past few years I have gone on record saying Meta is supplementary, especially when you only have a limited amount.
meta based on content basically doesn't work

the vast majority of players can produce any kind of content as either alignment

the best meta reads are personality/mood based and those are really only reliable over a very large sample size

I agree. Which is why I've been doing different playstyles as each alignment now.

Hu Tao · Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:37 am

The dead thread was hilarious to read