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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:02 am

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On Mafiascum we generally keep our posts 1-5 sentences.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:02 am

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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:03 am

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In post 139, outoforder wrote:
In post 98, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 96, Dannflor wrote: UNVOTE: welp i got nothing from all that except a stronger confidence in DarthPunk as town

If you did it for a reaction, why not wait for outoforder's reaction?
this guy is prolly scum.
Like this. Why do you believe this? I ask because I felt good about Luca's initial read on dannflor; it aligned with my own. Dannflor kinda came out guns blazing, fearlessly voting and encouraging others to do the same. I can see how one might interpret that as scum trying hard to be a ringleader and get the townies to follow their lead and such. But you've somehow come up with a totally different read on all this and I'm curious why.

In post 140, outoforder wrote: Dannflor is town anyways so..

Explaining why would be very helpful.

In post 106, gob wrote: Im thinking its dannfloor VOTE: dannfloor
this guy is probably mafia #2
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I am using my powers of deduction here to say that the main reason you probably think Gob is scum is because he voted for someone you think is town, yeah? I guess I don't really think the logic of "he has a different read on someone from what I have, therefore he is scum" is all that sound.

Can you explain more of what led you to these conclusions?
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:04 am

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I will let you press me for more info.
Waiting.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:04 am

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My last quote got screwed up, but outoforder was the one who said "this guy is probably mafia #2" and I'm hoping for more of an explanation on that opinion.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:05 am

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In post 175, gob wrote: On Mafiascum we generally keep our posts 1-5 sentences.
That's nice.

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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:05 am

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In post 179, SuperfluousNinja wrote: My last quote got screwed up, but outoforder was the one who said "this guy is probably mafia #2" and I'm hoping for more of an explanation on that opinion.
idk if gob is mafia tbh, but Luca is.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:06 am

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In post 173, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 149, outoforder wrote:
In post 130, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 62, DarthPunk wrote:
In post 60, Dannflor wrote: VOTE: outoforder
VOTE: Dannflor

Terrible.

If you want me to talk more about why I am a little sus of DarthPunk, this reaction is part of the reason why.

Outoforder said a thing about they think Dannflor might be trying to cozy up to them. Dannflor then reacted by voting for Outoforder.

Now you can either look at that as a joke, or you can see that Dannflor is unironically just trying to distance himself from Outoforder. One interpretation is that this was meaningless and another is, IMO, totally understandable. Thus, I don't really get why DarthPunk took so much issue with it. It's scummy to take issue with stuff on flimsy evidence, since scum know they're never going to get solid evidence of anything and thus must jump on even the flimsiest of cases and hope it somehow blows up into something legitimate.

Like it's just weird I guess. It didn't strike me as a scummy activity at all so I guess I just don't follow the thought process that might make someone think it was, other than a very simplified "there's a vote with little rationale behind it, go after it", which isn't much of a case so early in the day.
There is nothing scummy there.
I don't know Dannflor from before, how do you take that?

I dunno? None of my takes have been based on anything that happened in any games previous to this one. If you and Dannflor had some long and storied history with one another, I'd still hope that you evaluated his thoughts and actions in the context of this game and not biased by previous ones. I don't have any history with anyone here, but speaking for myself, if I did, I'd honestly do everything in my power to forget it and force myself to judge their thoughts and actions in this game and this game alone.

I'm not sure what to make of everything you just said and did. You offered a lot of opinions but hardly any rationale for any of it. I don't think any of us are particularly concerned with exactly what you believe as we are with WHY you believe it.

Like let me press you for more info on a few things, give me a moment...

(wow, 4 new posts since I started writing this)
I would like you to press me more on this please.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:08 am

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May I introduce to you Post 177? lol
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:13 am

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ISOing Luca cause I didn‘t really see how he‘s scum (so far) like Outoforder is suggesting. Seems I missed the question.
In post 59, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 20, Vivax wrote:
In post 11, Naerys wrote: VOTE: outoforder
I could get behind this vote. I don`t see where the assumption I was scared came from if not from within.

VOTE: OutofOrder

(Hey DP, I think they`re trying to tell us we have to vote for him. I´m not sure but these people might be a cannibal tribe)

Why did you wait for someone else to vote first if you found this suspect from Outoforder?
I didn‘t wait, it‘s how I found the thread when I opened it.
If I can find a reason to vote for him I will. The notion that I was scared from you didn‘t compute. Giddy would have been more accurate.

Can‘t finish the ISO currently but I wouldn‘t mind outoforder expanding on why Luca is scum.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:15 am

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Lets discuss something important...

Roden voted Vivax
Naerys voted OoO
Dannfloor Vivax
Vivax OoO

These are the first votes in the game. Generally mafia wants to establish distancing earlier.
Roden and Dann voted Vivax.
Naerys voted OoO
Vivax voted OoO.

Given that Vivax was voted twice and also voted for someone, they are the person who gives the most info, and is the most likely to be wolf as well.

VOTE: Vivax
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:15 am

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In post 183, SuperfluousNinja wrote: May I introduce to you Post 177? lol
Hmm okay, in that post, you said
1) Luca is not mafia because you agreed with him, and you backed it up with what
someone else (Dann) did...

2) I think Dann is town because he would most likely not be so blatantly tying himself up with a townie here. It might cause him problems, as i see it.
3) I dont really think gob is mafia, so...
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:16 am

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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:16 am

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found it nevermind
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:17 am

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In post 184, Vivax wrote: ISOing Luca cause I didn‘t really see how he‘s scum (so far) like Outoforder is suggesting. Seems I missed the question.
In post 59, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 20, Vivax wrote:
In post 11, Naerys wrote: VOTE: outoforder
I could get behind this vote. I don`t see where the assumption I was scared came from if not from within.

VOTE: OutofOrder

(Hey DP, I think they`re trying to tell us we have to vote for him. I´m not sure but these people might be a cannibal tribe)

Why did you wait for someone else to vote first if you found this suspect from Outoforder?
I didn‘t wait, it‘s how I found the thread when I opened it.
If I can find a reason to vote for him I will. The notion that I was scared from you didn‘t compute. Giddy would have been more accurate.

Can‘t finish the ISO currently but I wouldn‘t mind outoforder expanding on why Luca is scum.
Not solving.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:27 am

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In post 185, gob wrote: Lets discuss something important...

Roden voted Vivax
Naerys voted OoO
Dannfloor Vivax
Vivax OoO

These are the first votes in the game. Generally mafia wants to establish distancing earlier.
Roden and Dann voted Vivax.
Naerys voted OoO
Vivax voted OoO.

Given that Vivax was voted twice and also voted for someone, they are the person who gives the most info, and is the most likely to be wolf as well.

VOTE: Vivax
This is probably the worst reason ever to vote for anyone, but also not mafia reason lol
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:30 am

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In post 190, outoforder wrote:
In post 185, gob wrote: Lets discuss something important...

Roden voted Vivax
Naerys voted OoO
Dannfloor Vivax
Vivax OoO

These are the first votes in the game. Generally mafia wants to establish distancing earlier.
Roden and Dann voted Vivax.
Naerys voted OoO
Vivax voted OoO.

Given that Vivax was voted twice and also voted for someone, they are the person who gives the most info, and is the most likely to be wolf as well.

VOTE: Vivax
This is probably the worst reason ever to vote for anyone, but also not mafia reason lol
It's honestly not that bad. Statistically it checks out im pretty sure.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:35 am

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Yeah statistically i can be mafia, you can be mafia, anyone can be mafia.
Using statistics to prove someone is mafia is bad. Because it does not work like that.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:41 am

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yea whatever.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:56 pm

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In post 154, outoforder wrote: Luca is just commenting, they are not trying to solve.

Asking questions like the one you quoted is part of how I solve, especially early on.

You had previously said you liked my posts, so I don't quite understand your sudden change of energy.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:01 pm

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In post 194, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 154, outoforder wrote: Luca is just commenting, they are not trying to solve.

Asking questions like the one you quoted is part of how I solve, especially early on.

You had previously said you liked my posts, so I don't quite understand your sudden change of energy.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:12 pm

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I'm not one for spewing my townreads early on, especially when they tend to be fairly consensus reads, but I'm currently leaning Town on Ninja, Vivax, Darth and outoforder. I still don't feel great about Dann's posts at the moment. Gob tonally seems quite townie but is probably the sort of player I will have a hard time reading D1. No-one else has left much of an impression yet.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:18 pm

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Outoforder's sudden change of energy actually does remind me of a scum game I once had where I just suddenly decided to be ultra aggressive, to disguise my own insecurities. Just keeping that in the back of my mind for now.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:32 pm

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In post 190, outoforder wrote:
In post 185, gob wrote: Lets discuss something important...

Roden voted Vivax
Naerys voted OoO
Dannfloor Vivax
Vivax OoO

These are the first votes in the game. Generally mafia wants to establish distancing earlier.
Roden and Dann voted Vivax.
Naerys voted OoO
Vivax voted OoO.

Given that Vivax was voted twice and also voted for someone, they are the person who gives the most info, and is the most likely to be wolf as well.

VOTE: Vivax
This is probably the worst reason ever to vote for anyone, but also not mafia reason lol
It‘s a terrible reason and you wanting to read town into it makes you suspicious.

Your post would have been fine if you didn‘t write the part past the comma.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:34 pm

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But you also think Luca looks scummy when he seems like the sanest person itt so meh, you might be mafia after all.

VOTE: outoforder

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