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outoforder Mafia Scum
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Can you link me to a past game of his where he expresses behavior you point out here?In post 913, Dannflor wrote: I didn’t realize it put him at e-1 actually
I didn’t think there were that many votes on him
I have somewhat high expectations of Dunnstral that he hasn’t really met this game. I think he has the capability of being more insightful even with a lower engagement. He could be town, but I felt fine applying some pressure there in the moment-
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Luca, this is probably one of the best and most correct things Oats has said in this game.In post 997, Oatsmaster wrote: Ie if we yeet town, vivax doesn’t look bad for pushing a misyeet and he can continue to push his irrelevant targets and chill as a slightly sus townie because he won’t be in danger of the “why are you still alive” problem-
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Im gonna say that unless Ninja is portraying a character that isnt real in which case I think shed be playing more mafia, shes town.
I dont think it makes much sense to say the things shes said if she were mafia. especially the stuff regarding the game getting too personal.-
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Yeah she's probably town. She seems very self-aware of herself but when she makes posts she makes mistakes, like very obvious mistakes that contradict with what she has said before.In post 1003, Oatsmaster wrote: Im gonna say that unless Ninja is portraying a character that isnt real in which case I think shed be playing more mafia, shes town.
I dont think it makes much sense to say the things shes said if she were mafia. especially the stuff regarding the game getting too personal.
For instance, she puts Dunnstral in scum column in her list post, then posts reasons why he is mafia and says he is null.
I find it very unlike that someone who seems so self-aware (even if you read her as scum this is true so it would apply also if she's town) gives people ammunition like this to attack her. As mafia i would say with 90% certainty she would be very careful and definitely more likely to keep her story straight.-
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The more i look at this, this whole scene here looks very unnatural and sketchy.In post 23, Roden wrote:
It's just randomIn post 10, Vivax wrote:Yeah I think you were around when I got offered a leading position at a social media company, which I then declined to get a job instead.
Why the vote ?
Random voting stage stands for this; You place a vote on someone hoping it would spark a reaction that is unexpected from them as town.
Now from Roden's side:
- There is a reason Roden voted for Vivax. the vote is not random. I don't care what the reason is, but there is a reason why he chose Vivax from all the players. Now Vivax responds with "why the vote?", which is (or can be considered) an unexpected reaction to a seemingly random vote. As i put it, "why so scared Vivax?"
From Vivax' side:
- I don't find it completely unreasonable to ask "why the vote". However, Vivax fairly well knows what RVS stands for and should not be interested in the vote at all unless he is either thinking there's some suspicious activity behind the vote (why Roden chose him of all the players), or trying to counter-bait a reaction from Roden (which should be expected with the "scummy" answer -- "why the vote?").
Instead of anything happening, fucking nothing at all happens with here, while both players have reasonable reasons to push this further. If not to find mafia, at least start the discussion about something relevant. I find this very likely to be S/S interaction.-
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In post 540, Vivax wrote:
I‘d have Dunn, DP , OOO and Oats in lean scum currently. Others lean town except for Malcolm.In post 538, Dannflor wrote: for transparency, im somewhere around here right now:
TOWN: Luca Blight, outoforder, Oatsmaster
LEAN TOWN: gob, Hu Tao, SuperfluousNinja
MIXED/NULL: Dunnstral, Naerys, MalcolmTucker, Roden
LEAN SCUM: Vivax
SCUM: DarthPunk
Dunn more of a null though for lack of content. It‘s just that he gives off a scummy breeze I can‘t place my finger on.
You and Ninja towned it up during this phase.
I‘m flattered that you think I could be scum.In post 641, Vivax wrote: Beginning from #202 Hu Tao had the same thoughts I had on the reread now, mostly. I think I'll treat it as a town point.
Then I scumread Oats because he wasn't all over OOO for townreading Gob with that post. Probably a pretty good reason from me considering he came into with the tone of an angry something and was scumreading me while I in turn was scumreading OOO.
Consider these statements.
Me: OOO scum, gob town.
OOO: Gob town.
Oats: Vivax scum, Gob scum.
How does someone from Oats' position who doesn't post an opinion on OOO at all see him calling Gob's post terrible AND giving him a townread for it prioritize calling me scum first?
OOO, Oats, Dann it is. If not Dann then DP.
The progression that Vivax goes through doesnt make any sense here. He goes from Dann/Ninja "towning it up" to adding Dann in his next reads list and ninja in his following reads list.In post 859, Vivax wrote: To be clear, my current pool would be Oats/Ninja/OoO but Ninja is more on a whim right now.
That said I appreciate that Naerys thinks similarly.
Its also very very odd that he seems to implicitly trust naerys here for no reason?
Anyway im voting
VOTE: roden
I reread the entire thread cause why not and roden cannot find anything to post about other than me. I think its fairly obvious hes not actually parsing whats happening and just trying to be active by "catching up" and not being relevant to the conversation.-
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Oatsmaster HeGoonHe
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Im still really stuck on dann's very very quick reversal from ninja to dp so hed be the 3rd name I throw in there-
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Yeah i am not completely over DP's interpretation of "is Dann just making cases instead of trying to find mafia", i mean it entirely could be the thing. Especially as i am really struggling to find third mafia. But that's fine for now, that's why having like one million hours of D1 is super good.In post 1007, Oatsmaster wrote: Im still really stuck on dann's very very quick reversal from ninja to dp so hed be the 3rd name I throw in there-
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Dann also mentioned he unvoted dunn because he thought you were like soft mason claiming which doesnt make any sense to me? like that requires a big assumption that you are town to happen immediately in his brain-
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I would also like to know when you, Grackaroni, are completely caught up with the thread. Just for reasons.-
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I think he has read me town all game, no? It kind of makes sense if he's telling the truth about not knowing himself putting Dunnstrall L-1.In post 1009, Oatsmaster wrote: Dann also mentioned he unvoted dunn because he thought you were like soft mason claiming which doesnt make any sense to me? like that requires a big assumption that you are town to happen immediately in his brain-
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he does say this right before but otherwise you are in his firmly town section in the reads list that he posted a while before this whole thing happened.In post 865, Dannflor wrote: I guess if I’m wrong on a town read in these three I think OoO is the most likely to be wrong?
idk just that masons wouldnt be the first place my brain goes to if someone yells dont yeet that dude-
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You have to consider him not knowing he put Dunnstrall at L-1.
If he really missed that, i don't think that's an unreasonable assumption, because how else "would i know dunn is town"?
If he didn't miss that, then obviously he is lying and mafia.-
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It's hilarious though you bring this up since i have saved you from D1 lynch claiming mason with you when we were not actually even masons.In post 1012, Oatsmaster wrote: idk just that masons wouldnt be the first place my brain goes to if someone yells dont yeet that dude-
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I mean I do think he really missed that he put dunn at L-1 but just the excuse is weird.In post 1013, outoforder wrote: You have to consider him not knowing he put Dunnstrall at L-1.
If he really missed that, i don't think that's an unreasonable assumption, because how else "would i know dunn is town"?
If he didn't miss that, then obviously he is lying and mafia.
"oh I unvoted becuase ooo said stop because soft claim masons" is just like weird idkkk.
LOOOOL that was so fucking long ago I cant believe you remember it-
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I remember everythingIn post 1015, Oatsmaster wrote: LOOOOL that was so fucking long ago I cant believe you remember it-
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It's actually a bit weird he says this:In post 1012, Oatsmaster wrote:
he does say this right before but otherwise you are in his firmly town section in the reads list that he posted a while before this whole thing happened.In post 865, Dannflor wrote: I guess if I’m wrong on a town read in these three I think OoO is the most likely to be wrong?
idk just that masons wouldnt be the first place my brain goes to if someone yells dont yeet that dude
I mean, he has just expressed suspicion towards Vivax.In post 865, Dannflor wrote:In post 859, Vivax wrote: To be clear, my current pool would be Oats/Ninja/OoO but Ninja is more on a whim right now.
That said I appreciate that Naerys thinks similarly.
I guess if I’m wrong on a town read in these three I think OoO is the most likely to be wrong?
I feel increasingly solid about Ninja as town
Why does he care about who Vivax scumreads? Or like "if one of these three NEEDS to be mafia THEN it's this guy". Seems a bit out of place how to talk to your scumread.-
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I was expecting some pushback from my read on them but they either didn't get there yet or didn't find it memorable.In post 981, Oatsmaster wrote: Okay so Roden came back vomited up some stuff and left, what are y’all thoughts about it?-
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thoughts on what ooo and me are talking about?In post 1019, Dunnstral wrote:
I was expecting some pushback from my read on them but they either didn't get there yet or didn't find it memorable.In post 981, Oatsmaster wrote: Okay so Roden came back vomited up some stuff and left, what are y’all thoughts about it?-
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Gotta go to work. I would appreciate if you, Dunnstral could link to your latest town and mafia game so i can read them after i get back home.-
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I mean i can find them myself later also, but it's very hard for me to navigate this forum.-
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I’ll be around tomorrow morning catching up with the thread while I’m at work. It was my -actual- bday today and had a date day with my partner so that’s why I haven’t been around.
I was skimming the thread every now and then.
Main thing is some issues with ninja her reads aren’t really consistent with themselves there are a couple of blatant examples that I need her to explain when I outline them tomorrow.
Anyway goodnight."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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Happy birthday!In post 1023, DarthPunk wrote: I’ll be around tomorrow morning catching up with the thread while I’m at work. It was my -actual- bday today and had a date day with my partner so that’s why I haven’t been around.
I was skimming the thread every now and then.
Main thing is some issues with ninja her reads aren’t really consistent with themselves there are a couple of blatant examples that I need her to explain when I outline them tomorrow.
Anyway goodnight.
Is it really worth time investigating ninja more? Feel like if shes scum, she wouldnt make some of the posts shes made
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