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[Grackaroni]

it's kinda wild to have roden at null lol

Is this because of the power-role claim? Because I don't know how things work here but I'm not going to read anything into that yet. From what I saw the roles are not public.

[DarthPunk]

Is DarthPunk a very good player?

Yeah I think he may be one of the strongest on the site.

True

[Hu Tao]

Vivax is basically already green checked to me, so Hu Tao jumping on Vivax as trying to avoid looking bad for being a part of her wagon as her main contribution in the game reads quite scummy to me.

Ah okay. So basically because you think vivax is town, it's warping your view.

So from my point of view, if vivax is scum wouldn't it be possible for him to soft defend me as town if he thinks I'm going to be eliminated anyway?

He hyper-reacts to stimuli.

I really strongly believe that I'm able to read him from a long history of playing with him and as naive as it sounds he's posted that I get him in the thread as well.

For me you were in the same spot where you placed me in your list post (Grack who?). You weren't really involved with the game prior to this push, and knowing that the push and the reasoning behind it is wrong is enough for me to move you from null to scum lean.

Fair. But I think I've been active in spurts and not just right now. It's possible I could be paranoid on vivax.

[gob]

Is DarthPunk a very good player?

I've heard he's one of the best

[Hu Tao]

Is DarthPunk a very good player?

Yeah I think he may be one of the strongest on the site.

Ooh exciting

[DarthPunk]

Is DarthPunk a very good player?

I've heard he's one of the best

where did you hear that?

[Oatsmaster]

None of these are actual good reasons to scumread me. If I was scum I could easily make up reads if I wanted to.

I mean you're trying to give an argument here for why you should be allowed to not participate in the game. You're trying to say, why bother moving anything forward since I might be scum and misleading you all?! I mean you can trust that we've all considered that possibility.

Yes you can make up reads, but if you actually commit to them and put them down here, that's what actually helps us to figure out what you are. The fact that you're trying to create a space that is amenable to you not having to offer useful information, not having to move the game forward at all, not having to offer anything that helps us sort out your alignment, is only deepening my suspicion of you.

I'm just someone who takes awhile to come up with reads in general. You can see any of my past town games and see this as fact if you really need to.

You said this earlier, why are you contradicting this statement now?

[Hu Tao]

Okay who is very against a Luca elimination right now and why

[gob]

Is DarthPunk a very good player?

I've heard he's one of the best

where did you hear that?

One of my many little birdies. Chirp chirp.

[Hu Tao]

None of these are actual good reasons to scumread me. If I was scum I could easily make up reads if I wanted to.

I mean you're trying to give an argument here for why you should be allowed to not participate in the game. You're trying to say, why bother moving anything forward since I might be scum and misleading you all?! I mean you can trust that we've all considered that possibility.

Yes you can make up reads, but if you actually commit to them and put them down here, that's what actually helps us to figure out what you are. The fact that you're trying to create a space that is amenable to you not having to offer useful information, not having to move the game forward at all, not having to offer anything that helps us sort out your alignment, is only deepening my suspicion of you.

I'm just someone who takes awhile to come up with reads in general. You can see any of my past town games and see this as fact if you really need to.

You said this earlier, why are you contradicting this statement now?

Is 80 pages not enough?

[DarthPunk]

Is DarthPunk a very good player?

I've heard he's one of the best

where did you hear that?

One of my many little birdies. Chirp chirp.

in your mafia chat?

[gob]

Okay who is very against a Luca elimination right now and why

I am against it, but not very against it.

I am thinking we go dunnstral here unironically. I still need to catch up though but the fact I haven't seen dunn post at all and can't remember any of their posts is a bad sign.

[Grackaroni]

And who is "our"? Am I the only one here who doesn't know what Team Liquid is?

TL players:
DP
Grack
Oats
Outoforder
Vivax

Basically, the top 4 highest postcounts + grack.

Rude

Where is your head at grack? Have you caught up to the thread?

Yeah I'm caught up.

I'm mostly clueless. I have a lot of question marks and not a lot of confidence that I'll be able to resolve those question marks.

Town:
Vivax
Oatsmaster

Town Lean

Ninja
OutofOrder

Null

DarthPunk
Dannflor
LucaBlight
Dunnstral
Roden
Naerys

Scum Lean

Gob
Hu Tao

Is this in order? can you give some brief explanations.

Really I thought you would have got more out of the dann/dp/luca situation than a bunch of null reads tbh.

Why am I null when I have pushed your number 1 and number 2 scum reads?

No if it were up to me that conversation would have ended after 1 or 2 posts rather than 4-5 pages.

If those reads are actually right then you will rise into the town group. I wasn't very interested in your Dann case based off him pushing/backing off of you and I'm weary that

you are not coming off as townie to the rest of the players as you usually do as town.

Wait, do you think I am usually universally town read as town grack?

Have you even been eliminated as town in the games that I've hosted? I legitimately don't remember but my gut says no.

In this game you're being placed on the same level as me by lots of people lol. (Funniest thing to me was OutofOrder building me up as a threat that if I'm not eliminated early I'll slip through to the end.)

Im hard to lynch, but I tend to get into huge arguments with active players, like marv, koshi, rayn and get called scum a lot. then scum tend to jump on at some point,and fail to get off when they should. It's my number one scum hunting tactic.

I struggled in obs last game so much because most of my reads are generated through conflict and pressure.

I think you should know this tho.

I think more what tends to happen is that you and those players aren't even on the table for day 1 and then arguments between you guys blow up in the mid-game.

I really don't care though. You're not likely to be yeeted today and you know it.

[Hu Tao]

Okay who is very against a Luca elimination right now and why

I am against it, but not very against it.

I am thinking we go dunnstral here unironically. I still need to catch up though but the fact I haven't seen dunn post at all and can't remember any of their posts is a bad sign.

Isn't Dunn kinda like he was in commercials game the 3 of us were in? I'll lean on you with this though since I read him wrong the whole time

[gob]

Okay who is very against a Luca elimination right now and why

I am against it, but not very against it.

I am thinking we go dunnstral here unironically. I still need to catch up though but the fact I haven't seen dunn post at all and can't remember any of their posts is a bad sign.

Isn't Dunn kinda like he was in commercials game the 3 of us were in? I'll lean on you with this though since I read him wrong the whole time

idk

[Oatsmaster]

None of these are actual good reasons to scumread me. If I was scum I could easily make up reads if I wanted to.

I mean you're trying to give an argument here for why you should be allowed to not participate in the game. You're trying to say, why bother moving anything forward since I might be scum and misleading you all?! I mean you can trust that we've all considered that possibility.

Yes you can make up reads, but if you actually commit to them and put them down here, that's what actually helps us to figure out what you are. The fact that you're trying to create a space that is amenable to you not having to offer useful information, not having to move the game forward at all, not having to offer anything that helps us sort out your alignment, is only deepening my suspicion of you.

I'm just someone who takes awhile to come up with reads in general. You can see any of my past town games and see this as fact if you really need to.

You said this earlier, why are you contradicting this statement now?

Is 80 pages not enough?

“You can look at my meta to confirm that I do this as town”
“Don’t bother looking at my meta, I play differently every game”
???

[DarthPunk]

TL players:
DP
Grack
Oats
Outoforder
Vivax

Basically, the top 4 highest postcounts + grack.

Rude

Where is your head at grack? Have you caught up to the thread?

Yeah I'm caught up.

I'm mostly clueless. I have a lot of question marks and not a lot of confidence that I'll be able to resolve those question marks.

Town:
Vivax
Oatsmaster

Town Lean

Ninja
OutofOrder

Null

DarthPunk
Dannflor
LucaBlight
Dunnstral
Roden
Naerys

Scum Lean

Gob
Hu Tao

Is this in order? can you give some brief explanations.

Really I thought you would have got more out of the dann/dp/luca situation than a bunch of null reads tbh.

Why am I null when I have pushed your number 1 and number 2 scum reads?

No if it were up to me that conversation would have ended after 1 or 2 posts rather than 4-5 pages.

If those reads are actually right then you will rise into the town group. I wasn't very interested in your Dann case based off him pushing/backing off of you and I'm weary that

you are not coming off as townie to the rest of the players as you usually do as town.

Wait, do you think I am usually universally town read as town grack?

Have you even been eliminated as town in the games that I've hosted? I legitimately don't remember but my gut says no.

In this game you're being placed on the same level as me by lots of people lol. (Funniest thing to me was OutofOrder building me up as a threat that if I'm not eliminated early I'll slip through to the end.)

Im hard to lynch, but I tend to get into huge arguments with active players, like marv, koshi, rayn and get called scum a lot. then scum tend to jump on at some point,and fail to get off when they should. It's my number one scum hunting tactic.

I struggled in obs last game so much because most of my reads are generated through conflict and pressure.

I think you should know this tho.

I think more what tends to happen is that you and those players aren't even on the table for day 1 and then arguments between you guys blow up in the mid-game.

I really don't care though. You're not likely to be yeeted today and you know it.

I do know that.

But I also need to understand why you are taking the positions you are taking. Because I know my alignment, and I know my playstyle, and I know that you know my playstyle I like to test you there.

[gob]

Dunnstral, Dannfloor, DarthPunk

is the scum team.

[DarthPunk]

None of these are actual good reasons to scumread me. If I was scum I could easily make up reads if I wanted to.

I mean you're trying to give an argument here for why you should be allowed to not participate in the game. You're trying to say, why bother moving anything forward since I might be scum and misleading you all?! I mean you can trust that we've all considered that possibility.

Yes you can make up reads, but if you actually commit to them and put them down here, that's what actually helps us to figure out what you are. The fact that you're trying to create a space that is amenable to you not having to offer useful information, not having to move the game forward at all, not having to offer anything that helps us sort out your alignment, is only deepening my suspicion of you.

I'm just someone who takes awhile to come up with reads in general. You can see any of my past town games and see this as fact if you really need to.

You said this earlier, why are you contradicting this statement now?

Is 80 pages not enough?

“You can look at my meta to confirm that I do this as town”
“Don’t bother looking at my meta, I play differently every game”
???

Great point.

[DarthPunk]

Dunnstral, Dannfloor, DarthPunk

is the scum team.

Love the D's

[Dunnstral]

Dunn was significantly more involved in that game I thought

I had about 100 posts in 4 days in that game. I have 50 posts here and it's day 1.

[gob]

None of these are actual good reasons to scumread me. If I was scum I could easily make up reads if I wanted to.

I mean you're trying to give an argument here for why you should be allowed to not participate in the game. You're trying to say, why bother moving anything forward since I might be scum and misleading you all?! I mean you can trust that we've all considered that possibility.

Yes you can make up reads, but if you actually commit to them and put them down here, that's what actually helps us to figure out what you are. The fact that you're trying to create a space that is amenable to you not having to offer useful information, not having to move the game forward at all, not having to offer anything that helps us sort out your alignment, is only deepening my suspicion of you.

I'm just someone who takes awhile to come up with reads in general. You can see any of my past town games and see this as fact if you really need to.

You said this earlier, why are you contradicting this statement now?

Is 80 pages not enough?

“You can look at my meta to confirm that I do this as town”
“Don’t bother looking at my meta, I play differently every game”
???

Yea i noticed this too lol

[DarthPunk]

Is DarthPunk a very good player?

I've heard he's one of the best

where did you hear that?

One of my many little birdies. Chirp chirp.

[gob]

Dunnstral, Dannfloor, DarthPunk

is the scum team.

Love the D's

uuuuuuhhhhhhh suspect post??????????????

[Oatsmaster]

Dunn was significantly more involved in that game I thought

I had about 100 posts in 4 days in that game. I have 50 posts here and it's day 1.

Yes, that’s a problem.