Open 902: Frienemies Blitz | Postgame

[Naerys]

Anyway,

VOTE: dave

Why not Nae?

Why not you?

[T-Bone]

T-Bone, what's your favorite scumhunting method?

I don't know what you're asking. Broadly my method of playing is poking at players until I see something I don't like. I've been playing mafia for a long time (as have many here) and so there are things I don't like that I naturally gravitate to, such as people making assertions they haven't backed up with their play, but there's no one thing I am looking for. I would describe it as shaking a tree and seeing what falls out.

Also, why do you think I'm leaving without much substance? What are you looking for from me?

You started this day revealing your mason status and posting the final reads of Dann and Gob. Which is quality content, and you even showed where you agreed and disagreed with them. You stated your desire to flip JV and that was it for most of this phase. I have a vague idea of what your reads are, but I wish I knew them more, because as I said, we know your reads are real (whether they are right or wrong). We also know that when you ask someone a question, when you put pressure on someone, it is something the rest of us can trust is real. It's something your slot has over anyone else I town read.

But to go back to this, you come in, drop the opinions of the masonry and then promise a final write up. And then we don't hear from you for three days. Not literally, you of course make posts, but you just reiterate your preference for JV and then once say you'll compromise on me. I acknowledged in a previous post that when I noticed this I should have pushed at you to give more and I didn't.

So from my perspective your last will and testament is that post where you say a bunch of vague nonsense to call me scum. And that's where we are at. Call it discrediting if you want. I told you what I wanted already and responded to you like I did because in my opinion you did not deliver anything of substance here.

[T-Bone]

I'm going to bed.

Number one.

I still want JV's slot to flip. What I wanted to see was JV trying to case someone as an alternative for their elimination - someone they strongly scumread - and be invested in trying to get this done by going back to the game and retroactively explaining why this alternative was the scum partner for Python and how this scumread has been the scum all along.

A high bar, and maybe not entirely fair to expect JV to act this way, but it was what I was looking for that I told myself I'll get off JV for. Otherwise; the AtE, self-vote, and scumreads based on recency biases instead of a more holistic, retroactive read of a new scumread isn't just doing it for me. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll gladly take a yelling in the dead thread.

Number two.

As for T-Bone, their initial reaction to me was interesting in that he automatically went for discrediting my feelings as "vague descriptions for gut" and invalidating it as "no substance". But I don't agree - in fact, I've put out a lot of substance out there? Everyone immediately understands what I feel about the game, what my teammates are feeling about the game, what the game-defining moments are for me, and what I think about those game-defining moments. So, is there substance that he's looking for that I'm not putting out? idk.

Their description of their play reveals that they had been self-aware that their play was lacking for day 1 and day 2. But also missing in day 3 is an element of scumhunting. Their description of their game is too focused in the value of moving game forward, but moving the game forward for me is about deciding who to vote for - someone who you think is scum. That's entirely absent even in their description of what they're doing. There is a lack of clear idea of who they think is scum (as pointed out in StD as well) and what they're doing to get those scum out. That's not scumhunting for me, and if someone isn't scumhunting then they're not getting my townread.

If these ideas seem half-baked, maybe it is. But these are my strongest impressions. If it resonates, then it resonates. If it doesn't, then don't worry about it. There's no time for me to investigate or prod or reaction test because I'm going to bed, but this is where I'm leaving the game with. Hope people carry the torch moving forward. It will be pretty interesting what will happen in Day 4.

See y'all post game.

Final word since you went to bed.

I wish there were more thoughts on players besides JV and I and therein lies my frustration. I don't know what JV will flip. But I'm going to flip town and if JV does too today then that's a big ol wasted last post on nothing.

[T-Bone]

I won't be around in 6 hours, so I will bring this to e-1

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

[Doctor Drew]

Anyway,

VOTE: dave

Why not Nae?

Why not you?

Do you really believe that?

[davesaz]

Can't be sure I'll be back before deadline.
VOTE: JacksonVirgo

[Doctor Drew]

Can't be sure I'll be back before deadline.
VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Ahh the ol hammer without knowing it is a hammer lol.

[JacksonVirgo]

Can't be sure I'll be back before deadline.
VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Ahh the ol hammer without knowing it is a hammer lol.

Sure bud

[Doctor Drew]

Can't be sure I'll be back before deadline.
VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Ahh the ol hammer without knowing it is a hammer lol.

Sure bud

That's not a hammer?

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh, it is

[Alianna]

VC 3.07

Votecount 3.07

JacksonVirgo (5):

humaneatingmonkey, Black, Ranger, T-Bone, davesaz

[HAMMER]

davesaz (2):

Naerys, JacksonVirgo

Naerys (1):

Doctor Drew

Not Voting (1):

Save The Dragons

With 9 players alive, it took 5 votes to secure an elimination.

Mod notes:

• Please send all night actions to Dragon and myself.
  Dragon had to remind me what setup this is, thanks Dragon.
  
• Combined mod ISO

[Alianna]

JacksonVirgo has been eliminated! They were a

Vanilla Townie

.

Night 3 starts and will end in (expired on 2024-02-08 20:40:23).

[Alianna]

humaneatingmonkey has died! He was a

Town Mason

.

Day 4 starts and will end in (expired on 2024-02-12 20:47:19).

[Alianna]

VC 4.00

Votecount 4.00

Not Voting (7):

T-Bone, Doctor Drew, davesaz, Naerys, Black, Ranger, Save the Dragons

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-12 20:47:19).

Mod notes:

• Combined mod ISO

[Doctor Drew]

I am coming around on Nae a bit, still think it should be Ranger....or even Dave here

[Black]

I need to reevaluate

[T-Bone]

Cowards should have shot me

[Doctor Drew]

Cowards should have shot me

If I had a gun I would have

(Simpsons meme.gif)

[Naerys]

Ranger t-bone drew should contain atleast 1 scum

[Doctor Drew]

Ranger t-bone drew should contain atleast 1 scum

I agree

[Ranger]

I need to reevaluate

Okay, evaluate.

VOTE: Black

[Ranger]

I am coming around on Nae a bit, still think it should be Ranger....or even Dave here

Ranger t-bone drew should contain atleast 1 scum

I agree

Care to reconcile these reads?

[Ranger]

I've no idea why, considering I've done no reevaluation overnight.

However by gut I feel T-Bone town, Naerys ambivalent nulltown, Doctor Drew ambivalent nullscum, Black lean scum.

[Doctor Drew]

I am coming around on Nae a bit, still think it should be Ranger....or even Dave here

Ranger t-bone drew should contain atleast 1 scum

I agree

Care to reconcile these reads?

I think you are scum......so does Nae.

Is that clear?

[Ranger]

I am coming around on Nae a bit, still think it should be Ranger....or even Dave here

Ranger t-bone drew should contain atleast 1 scum

I agree

Care to reconcile these reads?

I think you are scum......so does Nae.

Is that clear?

That explains 2294.


It doesn't explain how 2294 doesn't match 2289.