Mini Normal 2325 | Game Over

[OutWorldER]

we can't no-lim here now that I've claimed because I cannot be healed under any circumstances and nobody gets anything from that NKA, unless Psyche hasn't used his shot/Hu Tao blocks my killer.

i should be more active but I'm currently mulling over which claims could be real or not, and if it's possible that all of them are real or not. My first instinct is that there would be too many confirm-able towns should all claims be real + the vig but also adding more PR's to a setup does weaken my Neapolitan significantly so I'm sort of at an impasse. Both Watcher and JK make sense in a setup with multi-tasking scum and I was speccing a Tracker/Watcher pretty heavily from the start of the game. Watcher could also semi-confirm JK/Neapolitan target if it sees one of our shots so I'm not actually sure if Psyche's claim is fake or not.

also the interaction Ketchup brought up I think does have merit in that town could just lose both Nea and JK in one fell swoop should JK + Watcher target me were I to claim D1, only getting a single scum lim as compromise.

[JacksonVirgo]

nah no way outworld is lying, he kinda needs to be town to maintain a balance of power, at least with the setup as we currently know it

Wdym by that last bit?

[ketchup777]

nah no way outworld is lying, he kinda needs to be town to maintain a balance of power, at least with the setup as we currently know it

unless luca comes out cop or smth.

[Gypyx]

nah no way outworld is lying, he kinda needs to be town to maintain a balance of power, at least with the setup as we currently know it

Wdym by that last bit?

Luca is still unknown

[Gypyx]

we can't no-lim here now that I've claimed because I cannot be healed under any circumstances and nobody gets anything from that NKA, unless Psyche hasn't used his shot/Hu Tao blocks my killer.

i should be more active but I'm currently mulling over which claims could be real or not, and if it's possible that all of them are real or not. My first instinct is that there would be too many confirm-able towns should all claims be real + the vig but also adding more PR's to a setup does weaken my Neapolitan significantly so I'm sort of at an impasse. Both Watcher and JK make sense in a setup with multi-tasking scum and I was speccing a Tracker/Watcher pretty heavily from the start of the game. Watcher could also semi-confirm JK/Neapolitan target if it sees one of our shots so I'm not actually sure if Psyche's claim is fake or not.

also the interaction Ketchup brought up I think does have merit in that town could just lose both Nea and JK in one fell swoop should JK + Watcher target me were I to claim D1, only getting a single scum lim as compromise.

Multitasking scum is mostly a default these days, i'm 99% positive it doesn't mean anything significant about the setup

[ketchup777]

in one fell swoop

ITS MACBETH IN DISGUISE AAAHHH

[Black]

Me when balance spec starts happening

[Gypyx]

Black thought she was slick trynda take us away from figuring out psyche's claim is bogus (this is exagerrated for the sake of comedy)

[OutWorldER]

did it become default? I went away for two years and so I didn't really know how the standards developed.

I guess I just kind of assumed it was a big deal because of the whole mess with bugspray

[ketchup777]

we can't no-lim here now that I've claimed because I cannot be healed under any circumstances and

nobody gets anything from that NKA, unless Psyche hasn't used his shot/Hu Tao blocks my killer.

i should be more active but I'm currently mulling over which claims could be real or not, and if it's possible that all of them are real or not. My first instinct is that there would be too many confirm-able towns should all claims be real + the vig but also adding more PR's to a setup does weaken my Neapolitan significantly so I'm sort of at an impasse. Both Watcher and JK make sense in a setup with multi-tasking scum and I was speccing a Tracker/Watcher pretty heavily from the start of the game. Watcher could also semi-confirm JK/Neapolitan target if it sees one of our shots so I'm not actually sure if Psyche's claim is fake or not.

also the interaction Ketchup brought up I think does have merit in that town could just lose both Nea and JK in one fell swoop should JK + Watcher target me were I to claim D1, only getting a single scum lim as compromise.

ok, we lose a bit of voting power, but isn't it worth the risk? or am i underestimating how bad 4v3 is

[JacksonVirgo]

4v3 is easier to win than 5v3

[JacksonVirgo]

Unless u got a confirmed town (that would die if you no-limmed to get back on odds)

[Black]

Black thought she was slick trynda take us away from figuring out psyche's claim is bogus (this is exagerrated for the sake of comedy)

I have no idea if it's bogus or not so that's impossible

[JacksonVirgo]

well right now all town PRs are pretty obvious but you're certainely not making it easy for town

This is throwing what I'm saying out of the window completely just to stick to your thoughts. Do you disagree with me?

[OutWorldER]

we can't no-lim here now that I've claimed because I cannot be healed under any circumstances and

nobody gets anything from that NKA, unless Psyche hasn't used his shot/Hu Tao blocks my killer.

i should be more active but I'm currently mulling over which claims could be real or not, and if it's possible that all of them are real or not. My first instinct is that there would be too many confirm-able towns should all claims be real + the vig but also adding more PR's to a setup does weaken my Neapolitan significantly so I'm sort of at an impasse. Both Watcher and JK make sense in a setup with multi-tasking scum and I was speccing a Tracker/Watcher pretty heavily from the start of the game. Watcher could also semi-confirm JK/Neapolitan target if it sees one of our shots so I'm not actually sure if Psyche's claim is fake or not.

also the interaction Ketchup brought up I think does have merit in that town could just lose both Nea and JK in one fell swoop should JK + Watcher target me were I to claim D1, only getting a single scum lim as compromise.

ok, we lose a bit of voting power, but isn't it worth the risk? or am i underestimating how bad 4v3 is

I think at 7 alive it goes down to needing 4 to elim, which means 1 town voting wrong and the scumteam can coordinate a 3-man vote to insta-hammer somebody

Flavor Leaf, Alch, and myself did that to win a game one time.

[Gypyx]

Mini 2324, multitasking mafia with no active scum PR (a 1-shot jugg)
Mini 2322, multasking but no action investigatives

ok i checked a bit more and there's not really a consistent pattern but i don't think it's something that strongly indicates the existance of an action investigative in any way

[Psyche]

ok you know what

- i watched drew last night
- gypx is scum
- i am a god a godddd a god
- null levels of info

VOTE: gypx

pedit: jesus let me post

[Gypyx]

Gyp why do you think every role must make an obvious link and anything else means it’s fake? As it’s proven that the opposite can be the case with the inventor game and also that’s just a flawed viewpoint even taking it at face value

we are in a simple normal

aka : enforced minimal WIFOM

plus like, i get wanting to design a not straight fowards setup but when choosing between thomith designing a purposefully misleading role or Psyche simply being scum caught in a somewhat badly executed claim it's extremely dishonest to call me out for choosing the most probably answer by far

Having non-linked roles is not wifom. In fact, if all town PRs are very obviously town PRs then what's the point in playing the game?

having non linked roles isn't WIFOM, having direct anti-synergies is

[OutWorldER]

oh

spicy

[Gypyx]

OMG THEYRE LITTERALLY SCUM PLEAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE I BEG U TOWN

[JacksonVirgo]

So Gyp/Psyche are in a 1v1

[JacksonVirgo]

UNVOTE:

[Gypyx]

Psyche's teamates are obviously Jackson + black

i'm taking the 1v3

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Psyche

[JacksonVirgo]

And if it's not me/black, where is your head at?