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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:38 am

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In post 397, Gypyx wrote:
In post 383, fferyllt wrote: Spiffeh that is a surprising amount of sync. Reminds me of WH13.

At this table who among the gents do you think aren't easily manipulable by a hypothetical scum LLD?
or we could do an LLD+scummy gent pair that way it will absolutely be doable to get them out?

are scum/scum pairs bad for town?
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If you get them it’s BOGOF.
If you don’t then they ain’t leaving the dance ever.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:39 am

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But then I only played like one dance game.
And it was basically a leave-the-dance fest
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:39 am

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In post 383, fferyllt wrote: Spiffeh that is a surprising amount of sync. Reminds me of WH13.

At this table who among the gents do you think aren't easily manipulable by a hypothetical scum LLD?
So I am easily manipulated by scum LLD but I think my constant paranoia and fear of her scum game would outweigh anything she could do to me so I am willing to pair with her. I selfishly kind of don't want to because I don't want to be in a position where I end up taking us both out as town due to said paranoia and ruin the game for everyone. But I am good with pairing with her if people think it could be optimal, and she accepts of course.

Take all of this with a grain of salt as I have never played this setup before and I'm trash at mechanic-talk, AND I want to ensure everyone's posted and weighed in before making decisions like these, but these are the pairings I've been thinking up in my head:

fferylit/Cabd
Spiffeh/LLD
Ydrasse/someone scummy
Bell/anyone

Assuming all of us were town (statistically unlikely), scum would have some pretty powerhouse pairs to decide on killing and it would ensure at least some people I work well with/trust would be in the game by the last two phases which is what I care about.
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:40 am

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In post 399, fferyllt wrote:
In post 397, Gypyx wrote:
In post 383, fferyllt wrote: Spiffeh that is a surprising amount of sync. Reminds me of WH13.

At this table who among the gents do you think aren't easily manipulable by a hypothetical scum LLD?
or we could do an LLD+scummy gent pair that way it will absolutely be doable to get them out?

are scum/scum pairs bad for town?
I think they were tried in a couple of early dance games and were worse for scum than town. But I wasn't paying close attention when this design was new and novel.
only problem with a scumpair is that either we vote it out day 1 or we need 2 town pairs to both be alive and recognize the scumpair is a scumpair in day 2
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:41 am

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In post 396, HolySpiritTurtle wrote: My inner sadist straight up tells me Enchant.
But I’m p sure that’s not the answer you want.
Lukewarm recently shared a good opinion of mid-late game Enchant with me. I'm not totally averse from that perspective, but if it would make for an awful hood experience I'd pass.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:43 am

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In post 402, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 383, fferyllt wrote: Spiffeh that is a surprising amount of sync. Reminds me of WH13.

At this table who among the gents do you think aren't easily manipulable by a hypothetical scum LLD?
So I am easily manipulated by scum LLD but I think my constant paranoia and fear of her scum game would outweigh anything she could do to me so I am willing to pair with her. I selfishly kind of don't want to because I don't want to be in a position where I end up taking us both out as town due to said paranoia and ruin the game for everyone. But I am good with pairing with her if people think it could be optimal, and she accepts of course.

Take all of this with a grain of salt as I have never played this setup before and I'm trash at mechanic-talk, AND I want to ensure everyone's posted and weighed in before making decisions like these, but these are the pairings I've been thinking up in my head:

fferylit/Cabd
Spiffeh/LLD
Ydrasse/someone scummy
Bell/anyone

Assuming all of us were town (statistically unlikely), scum would have some pretty powerhouse pairs to decide on killing and it would ensure at least some people I work well with/trust would be in the game by the last two phases which is what I care about.
I endorse Bell/HST
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:46 am

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I think enchant is a good player tbh.
Although from my experience, I have no idea what goes in their head half of the time.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:01 am

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Mm, would RH-scum nonchalantly go “I want to pair with LLD?”
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:04 am

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I guess this is what I get for going to bed.

Also this is my first dance…be nice to me.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:06 am

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You funny. I’ve been posting here since like 3 am in the morning.
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:09 am

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In post 409, HolySpiritTurtle wrote: You funny. I’ve been posting here since like 3 am in the morning.
isn't the "m" in "am" morning?
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:10 am

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In post 408, RCEnigma wrote: I guess this is what I get for going to bed.

Also this is my first dance…be nice to me.
kinda wanna murder you with a flail
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:10 am

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In post 410, Gypyx wrote:
In post 409, HolySpiritTurtle wrote: You funny. I’ve been posting here since like 3 am in the morning.
isn't the "m" in "am" morning?
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:13 am

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In post 412, fferyllt wrote:
In post 410, Gypyx wrote:
In post 409, HolySpiritTurtle wrote: You funny. I’ve been posting here since like 3 am in the morning.
isn't the "m" in "am" morning?
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:15 am

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In post 411, Gypyx wrote:
In post 408, RCEnigma wrote: I guess this is what I get for going to bed.

Also this is my first dance…be nice to me.
kinda wanna murder you with a flail
Eww medieval is so 1300s
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:18 am

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I’d pair with LLD, I think she’s town. But I’m not a powerhouse if I don’t have a right hand to bounce things off of.

Cabd is pretty town too and I’ve only read one Cabd post.

Bell/fb prob town by extension.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:19 am

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In post 415, RCEnigma wrote: I’d pair with LLD, I think she’s town. But I’m not a powerhouse if I don’t have a right hand to bounce things off of.

Cabd is pretty town too and I’ve only read one Cabd post.

Bell/fb prob town by extension.
wdym "by extension"?
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:26 am

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Cabd was able to put her finger on exactly what both bell and FB were dancing around when it came to ffer (sorry too many double letters I’m gonna keep it short).

So there is some kind of meld there.
I’m not too far past that moment. But I’d expect some kind of engagement with that if fb or bell were scum letting town reach that kind of conclusion themselves and there hasn’t been any.

So, good look.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:27 am

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LLD being town is it’s own separate thing.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:28 am

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In post 415, RCEnigma wrote: I’d pair with LLD, I think she’s town. But I’m not a powerhouse if I don’t have a right hand to bounce things off of.

Cabd is pretty town too and I’ve only read one Cabd post.

Bell/fb prob town by extension.
Now I know why I think LLD is town, but why do you think she’s town?
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:35 am

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I think she’s genuine in not taking the dance seriously. If there’s a track record of early exits via paranoia then the feeling of apathy is a very real thing.

I’m not usually one to play into AtE but I liked it here.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:40 am

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In post 383, fferyllt wrote:At this table who among the gents do you think aren't easily manipulable by a hypothetical scum LLD?
Also I only answered myself earlier so some other people I'd be cool with pairing with LLD are Firebringer and Bell, maybe Enchant?
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:41 am

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Gents pairing together is a thing?
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:44 am

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Hmm, I see, I see.
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:47 am

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In post 224, Firebringer wrote:
In post 222, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: bud

im making helps content here

rh9 is the scummiest slot in the game bud
scum RH9 never pairs with u unless the plan is to suicide kill u
Why can’t that be the plan?

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