Kemusan - Game Over

[Save The Dragons]

it is! so you can't ask for death because it's a holiday today

fun fact i am a dragon on the lunar calendar

[Bell]

Okay so maybe you didn’t hear me from all the way up there, but I’m still threatening you.

[Save The Dragons]

gth i think you're town

my official stance is having a read on you right now is like calling florida in the 2000 election

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Fettuccine

[fireisredsir]

Speaking of which, since vibes aren't a big part of your sorting process what data channels do you like to use?

Spoiler: i don't think this is relevant to the game and it's too long so it goes in a spoiler

actually in general vibes are a somewhat big part of my process, particularly early. but i don't think the vibe reads are worth very much if i don't know the person well. i think they can be pretty effective with people i do understand but it's still like a starting point, something that indicates to me that i should look further

i don't think there's really a consistent rubric that i apply to people for the sake of sorting, but i tend to try to look beneath the words on the page to think about the thought process of the person who wrote them. and then weighing up whether there's a possible thought process that makes sense coming from a town brain, and whether there's one that makes sense coming from a scum brain

i would say this is probably my biggest metric for reading someone as evidenced by the fact that i find it very difficult to know how to sort someone if i feel like i don't understand how their brain works. i would also tangentially say that the investigative but never conclusive process of discovering how someone else's brain works is probably the main motivator for me to play mafia at all. it's somewhat rare to find an activity where people put their brain so openly and publicly on display

in practice this results in me looking for actions and posts that stand out as not making sense coming from one alignment in particular, and those tend to form the strongest bases for my reads

i do also like just talking to people and having real time interaction and reading them that way, although im not always confident that it leads to successful results. depends on the situation

and i tend to look at the game/gamestate as a whole and try to think about how scum would want to position in the current state of things, both individually and as a team, and what their goals would be. i probably tend to overestimate the level of coordination that scumteams have. this tends to be most useful in hindsight, rereading the game to see if someone's actions can be viewed in a different light if we assume that they at the time had alignment information that we as town only got later in the game

those are probably the main data channels although also probably not the only ones

[LavarManos]

anyone more familiar with cabd than i am know how he generally feels about playing scum?

[HolySpiritTurtle]

There was one time he preferred scum over town.
But that was years ago.

[Enchant]

Holy spirit Mafia

[HolySpiritTurtle]

More like Holy Spirit Turtle

[LavarManos]

k well if its true that he doesn't prefer scum anymore
then i was thinking that it felt like he was staying in the thread way longer than he wanted or needed to
which is townie to me

[Cabd]

I could tell you the answer to that question, but by definition it would be suspect.

At the very least, regardless of my actual preferences, the me of the alignment I don't prefer is self-aware enough to fake it.

If you do actually want to know, it used to be that I liked drawing group scum, but then Penguin and I had a child and my time went from ALL THE TIME to "oh gods why is it already midnight" in the blink of an eye. I find it easier to be less time intensive as town and still feel like I'm trying. But the "I am letting my teammates down" feels do still happen, just not as much as when I know who they are.

[Cabd]

then i was thinking that it felt like he was staying in the thread way longer than he wanted or needed to

Also this is just chronic insomnia from genetic reflux, it's a publicly known fact about me and you're welcome to ask anyone who has played with me before to confirm that.

[fferyllt]

anyone more familiar with cabd than i am know how he generally feels about playing scum?

He loves playing scum.

Specific to this game, I think he would have wanted a green role card in a game where he'll be shaking off a couple of years worth of rust while under a microscope.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Speaking of which, funnily enough, I would’ve preferred to be scum in this game, which is hella rare.

[LavarManos]

hmm ok we'll see then
also i definitely agree that rh9 seems to be doing his own thing this game, but id like to hear why that makes him town cuz i can also see that being a playstyle thing

other than that
i see gypyx and spiffeh as town, for v similar reason to my cabd read but stronger. It actually seems like they both aren't as comfortable rolling red and they both give off p good vibes so far
and the not dog fire as scum rn
didn't rlly like his entrance and the early reads seemed a bit manufactured

[LavarManos]

ig sorta related
not super familiar with a lot of the players here, but i remember bell and i think i played with fireisred (ig this sounds better than "not dog fire")
i think i operate from the baseline assumption that someone is just more comfortable as town than scum, but is there anyone in this list who swings the other way?

[LavarManos]

Speaking of which, funnily enough, I would’ve preferred to be scum in this game, which is hella rare.

any reason why?

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Speaking of which, funnily enough, I would’ve preferred to be scum in this game, which is hella rare.

any reason why?

Just to see how long I’d last as scum here lol.
Like, I already have like 9 townreads of various degreee at this point lol.
And the game hasn’t even been opened for 24 hours.

[Enchant]

Who are they

[HolySpiritTurtle]

It’s a secret.

[Cabd]

ig sorta related
not super familiar with a lot of the players here, but i remember bell and i think i played with fireisred (ig this sounds better than "not dog fire")
i think i operate from the baseline assumption that someone is just more comfortable as town than scum, but is there anyone in this list who swings the other way?

In a generic game with generic players and generic setup, myself, Lady Lambdadelta, Firebringer, Turtle, and Ffery are perfectly happy and pleased to draw a red PM.

In this game where there are so many high caliber players, once solves start they will be pretty much unstoppable, and so just from the player list I'd tip this to a 65-35% odds of a town win before the rand even occurred.

From that perspective, I'm glad I don't have to be on the outside of the party atmosphere. I get to have a limited shelf life, schmooze it up with old friends and new alike, then ride of to meowhalla before endgame.

[Gypyx]

It’s a secret.

why make it secret exactly

[Enchant]

Because polygamy

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Cos that’s how I keep myself entertained.

[LavarManos]

From that perspective, I'm glad I don't have to be on the outside of the party atmosphere. I get to have a limited shelf life, schmooze it up with old friends and new alike, then ride of to meowhalla before endgame.

Gotcha
Here's to a good one