Mini Normal 2325 | Game Over

[Alianna]

Is that post 3000 I see?

[ketchup777]

Is that post 3000 I see?

I thought you'd want it (:

blooping post 3000s is the new thing Alianna

[ketchup777]

Everyone should supply their suggested solve, mine is { Gypyx, Black, Outworld }

I don't think I have one standout for sure, thankfully this thread is about to reach dormant phase so I may actually get around to the analysis I keep putting off that I've been needing to do for ages.

potentially most likely but wouldn't be surprised if I were wrong: Hu Tao, Outworld, Gypyx

Please just end the game then. I don't want to wait 8 days to lose

lol Hu Tao I have made it clear I will not rush. I did that to Dannflor and it did not go well

anyway, I'm nowhere close to being confident I'm right

[Gypyx]

tried to sleep, can't, there's only mafia in my brain

If you think psyche is town you gotta admit it's really impressive how he manages to be spot on about almost everything while still being minimally engaged and very much on the burnt out side of things

i shall return with newn insights

[ketchup777]

tried to sleep, can't, there's only mafia in my brain

If you think psyche is town you gotta admit it's really impressive how he manages to be spot on about almost everything while still being minimally engaged and very much on the burnt out side of things

i shall return with newn insights

narrator: and here, my friends, we witness a case study on sleep deprivation

[Psyche]

now that i have reads having reads is scummy too

[Psyche]

also my current engagement is so far from minimal. there is a vast vast chasm between the level of obsession gypx can muster and minimal engagement

[ketchup777]

I really hope luca/jackson are not friendly neighbour+scum, this will really kill me. no way though. surely.

[JacksonVirgo]

Aren't you in agreement with a lot of what I've been saying now anyway?

[ketchup777]

Ok guys, with pen, paper, 2 biscuits, sultanas and a banana milkshake, I have deduced that the mafia team MUST be one of the following teams.

I found all possible 7C3=35 combinations (yes, I am town, sorry, not doing 8C3 and wasting my time)
I first eliminated any where neither Gypyx or Psyche were present (got rid of 10 potential teams)
I then eliminated any which had Luca but not Jackson or Jackson but not Luca (a further 14 teams)
I then also removed Hu Tao / Psyche / OutWorld team as, with the logic Hu Tao brought me in post 2369, they have had ample time and opportunity to hammer Gypyx here. Expanding on that, his cannot be a sick scumteam not hammering because they fear a jailkeep, because Hu Tao is our alleged jailkeeper and it seems we would have no way to stop them winning.

These are the ten teams that are left, in listing order not of any indication of which I think is the most likely:

Hu Tao / Gypyx / Psyche
Hu Tao / Gypyx / Black
Hu Tao / Gypyx / Outworld
Hu Tao / Psyche / Black
Gypyx / Luca / Jackson
Gypyx / Psyche / Black
Gypyx / Psyche / Outworld
Gypyx / Black / Outworld
Luca / Jackson / Psyche
Psyche / Black / Outworld

Due to mod wifom, I think if Outworld is truthful with his macho claim as a townie, Hu Tao must also be town. This means the list can be reduced to:

Hu Tao / Gypyx / Outworld
Gypyx / Luca / Jackson
Gypyx / Psyche / Black
Gypyx / Psyche / Outworld
Gypyx / Black / Outworld
Luca / Jackson / Psyche
Psyche / Black / Outworld

7 possible case, guys. But I'm not 100% sure if I got the last step of logic right, so please comment. Come on, we can nail them.

[ketchup777]

Aren't you in agreement with a lot of what I've been saying now anyway?

I meant for how many more cases of scumteams it would leave. please don't do that to me jackson

[ketchup777]

Ok guys, with pen, paper, 2 biscuits, sultanas and a banana milkshake, I have deduced that the mafia team MUST be one of the following teams.

I found all possible 7C3=35 combinations (yes, I am town, sorry, not doing 8C3 and wasting my time)
I first eliminated any where neither Gypyx or Psyche were present (got rid of 10 potential teams)
I then eliminated any which had Luca but not Jackson or Jackson but not Luca (a further 14 teams)
I then also removed Hu Tao / Psyche / OutWorld team as, with the logic Hu Tao brought me in post 2369, they have had ample time and opportunity to hammer Gypyx here. Expanding on that, his cannot be a sick scumteam not hammering because they fear a jailkeep, because Hu Tao is our alleged jailkeeper and it seems we would have no way to stop them winning.

These are the ten teams that are left, in listing order not of any indication of which I think is the most likely:

Hu Tao / Gypyx / Psyche
Hu Tao / Gypyx / Black
Hu Tao / Gypyx / Outworld
Hu Tao / Psyche / Black
Gypyx / Luca / Jackson
Gypyx / Psyche / Black
Gypyx / Psyche / Outworld
Gypyx / Black / Outworld
Luca / Jackson / Psyche
Psyche / Black / Outworld

Due to mod wifom, I think if Outworld is truthful with his macho claim as a townie, Hu Tao must also be town. This means the list can be reduced to:

Hu Tao / Gypyx / Outworld
Gypyx / Luca / Jackson
Gypyx / Psyche / Black
Gypyx / Psyche / Outworld
Gypyx / Black / Outworld
Luca / Jackson / Psyche
Psyche / Black / Outworld

7 possible case, guys. But I'm not 100% sure if I got the last step of logic right, so please comment. Come on, we can nail them.

Too much maths is a dangerous thing, so nobody base your vote on this, but:

Gypyx cases: 5
Psyche cases: 4
Outworld cases: 4
Black cases: 3
Luca cases: 2
Jackson cases: 2
Hu Tao cases: 1

[ketchup777]

1. Hu Tao / Gypyx / Outworld

2. Gypyx / Luca / Jackson

3. Gypyx / Psyche / Black

4. Gypyx / Psyche / Outworld

5. Gypyx / Black / Outworld

6. Luca / Jackson / Psyche

7. Psyche / Black / Outworld

Setup stuff:

bear in mind mafia power is unknown. below setups are based on the assumption there are no outstanding town claims that are fake / hiding a PR

1. Odd-night vig, 1- shot watcher, 2 Masons

2. Odd-night vig, 1-shot watcher, Odd-night jailkeeper, Neapolitan

3. Odd-night vig, Odd-night jailkeeper, Neapolitan, 2 Masons

4. Odd-night vig, Odd-night jailkeeper, 2 Masons

5. Odd-night vig, 1-shot watcher, Odd-night jailkeeper, 2 Masons

6. Odd-night vig, Odd-night jailkeeper, Neapolitan

7. Odd-night vig, Odd-night jailkeeper, 2 Masons

I must now seek out the wonders of sleep and bedtime. Will do my own analysis on stuff in the morning, but please, anyone, talk about this stuff.

[ketchup777]

I leave on a reminder to not vote, nay, to unvote! for we can solve this game. I believe in us

[ketchup777]

1. Hu Tao / Gypyx / Outworld

2. Gypyx / Luca / Jackson

3. Gypyx / Psyche / Black

4. Gypyx / Psyche / Outworld

5. Gypyx / Black / Outworld

6. Luca / Jackson / Psyche

7. Psyche / Black / Outworld

Setup stuff:

bear in mind mafia power is unknown. below setups are based on the assumption there are no outstanding town claims that are fake / hiding a PR

1. Odd-night vig, 1- shot watcher, 2 Masons

2. Odd-night vig, 1-shot watcher, Odd-night jailkeeper, Neapolitan

3. Odd-night vig, Odd-night jailkeeper, Neapolitan, 2 Masons

4. Odd-night vig, Odd-night jailkeeper, 2 Masons

5. Odd-night vig, 1-shot watcher, Odd-night jailkeeper, 2 Masons

6. Odd-night vig, Odd-night jailkeeper, Neapolitan

7. Odd-night vig, Odd-night jailkeeper, 2 Masons

I must now seek out the wonders of sleep and bedtime. Will do my own analysis on stuff in the morning, but please, anyone, talk about this stuff.

every time you see a Neapolitan, insert a macho. sorry

[ketchup777]

goodnight everyone (:

[JacksonVirgo]

Will get to you soon my guy, dw still busy

[Gypyx]

i'm gonna be real ktechup, i think that if jackson and luca are scum fake crumbing mason they've deserved this win, i've never seen scum do that, and i especially think they would be more enthusiat about claiming their things

i also really wanna trust that his anger on me came from an honest and self-confident place

i mean, this doesn't matter from *my* pov of course but maybe you can use this to realize what's going on idk

[Gypyx]

anyways i think i wanna kill outworld today as it's probably something me and jackson can both compromise on

the only team (excluding Luca / Jackson worlds) where outworld isn't scum is Me / Psyche / black

on a mechanical standpoint this would make the setup :

3. Odd-night vig, Odd-night jailkeeper, Neapolitan, 2 Masons

this is a lot. assuming the Full neap gets 1 single clear and dies without being belived at first, this is at bare minimum 4 conftowns + additional town power

Notice how outworld has been constantly undermining the power of his role each time another PR claim comes out, that's no accident, he needs Neap to appear weaker than it is

and hopefully with the time bought by the outworld exe we have have hu tao perform a correct jailkeep and buy us room to get the lim we need between me / psyche

btw hu you absolutely should be using your jailkeep as a roleblock tonight methinks since there's 2 masons with roughly equal chances of getting killed anyways

[Gypyx]

anyways back to sleep

[Hu Tao]

anyways i think i wanna kill outworld today as it's probably something me and jackson can both compromise on

the only team (excluding Luca / Jackson worlds) where outworld isn't scum is Me / Psyche / black

on a mechanical standpoint this would make the setup :

3. Odd-night vig, Odd-night jailkeeper, Neapolitan, 2 Masons

this is a lot. assuming the Full neap gets 1 single clear and dies without being belived at first, this is at bare minimum 4 conftowns + additional town power

Notice how outworld has been constantly undermining the power of his role each time another PR claim comes out, that's no accident, he needs Neap to appear weaker than it is

and hopefully with the time bought by the outworld exe we have have hu tao perform a correct jailkeep and buy us room to get the lim we need between me / psyche

btw hu you absolutely should be using your jailkeep as a roleblock tonight methinks since there's 2 masons with roughly equal chances of getting killed anyways

Why can't the team be Psyche Luca Jackson?

[Gypyx]

i'm gonna be real ktechup, i think that if jackson and luca are scum fake crumbing mason they've deserved this win, i've never seen scum do that, and i especially think they would be more enthusiat about claiming their things rather thank nuking half their thread cred like that

i also really wanna trust that his anger on me came from an honest and self-confident place

i mean, this doesn't matter from *my* pov of course but maybe you can use this to realize what's going on idk

[Hu Tao]

We definitely need to hear more from black and ower. So we can wait a bit

[Gypyx]

yeah i mean we're gonna wait a bit fosure

[ketchup777]

i'm gonna be real ktechup, i think that if jackson and luca are scum fake crumbing mason they've deserved this win, i've never seen scum do that, and i especially think they would be more enthusiat about claiming their things

i also really wanna trust that his anger on me came from an honest and self-confident place

i mean, this doesn't matter from *my* pov of course but maybe you can use this to realize what's going on idk

Whether or not they’ve deserved it we can’t just give them an easy ride