Open 903: IC Basic [Game Over]

[Bingle]

gypyx themself have seemed very townie to me though. They are being aggressive and to-the-point with their posts and there's this investigative tone to them, in a way that I find hard for wolves to replicate for fear of standing out too much. I don't think a wolf would want to invite others to sus them by being rude and forthright with everyone (uhm not rude in a bad sense but like...how do I put it lol, their posts all sound slightly angry).

LMAO if you think Gypyx is aggressive or angry. She's being proactive and setting herself up as a leader, but nothing there is angry. I'm not townreading her, but her goal here is definitely to be town leader.

[Bingle]

this made me laugh but also i gotta admit i'm not doing very good mentally so that probably explains the mildly angry at everything vibes you've picked up

Not game relevant, but <3 Gypyx. You know you got people who care and while we don't interact very often I have enjoyed just about every time we have. Take care of yourself and remember that you're awesome.

[Bingle]

I'd think scum would try to avoid doing the behavior they're scum reading people for. Is this wrong?

This is circular reasoning lol

Agreed. I've actually always thought the opposite was the case. If someone is doing something and yet saying someone else doing the same thing is sus, it's frequently an indication of a guilty conscience projecting their scumminess.

[gob]

This guys wolfin

[Bingle]

Shush you. Once I shoot you tonight you can go play in the sandbox with the other Jigglypuffs.

[TemporalLich]

Bellaphant has been prodded.

[Gypyx]

this made me laugh but also i gotta admit i'm not doing very good mentally so that probably explains the mildly angry at everything vibes you've picked up

Not game relevant, but <3 Gypyx. You know you got people who care and while we don't interact very often I have enjoyed just about every time we have. Take care of yourself and remember that you're awesome.

not really seeing myself as handsome right now but thanks for the kind words

[gob]

Bellaphant has been prodded.

This is Bella's biggest scumtell. According to my records.

[Bingle]

I think we might be having twtbaw case here with NAS

Hmmm. I am scumreading NAS's play and gamestate reading NAS as likely town, so loosely I agree with you.

[SzmarzLeek]

Bellaphant has been prodded.

This is Bella's biggest scumtell. According to my records.

you mean, you have a metaread? Bella is more inclined to not care about game if they don't roll a scum?

because in my experience, not knowing the meta, it's townies that are doing that in more cases

[SzmarzLeek]

I think we might be having twtbaw case here with NAS

Hmmm. I am scumreading NAS's play and gamestate reading NAS as likely town, so loosely I agree with you.

yeah, this guy's posts seem to be exactly the opposite of what would you expect from a towny, it's a position ruining game xD

[gob]

Bellaphant has been prodded.

This is Bella's biggest scumtell. According to my records.

you mean, you have a metaread? Bella is more inclined to not care about game if they don't roll a scum?

because in my experience, not knowing the meta, it's townies that are doing that in more cases

yea

[Bingle]

Nora. - Playing genuinely. There's a certain sense of openness when she engages that makes me think she's actively trying to be clear with what she's saying, as opposed to trying to look good saying things. Particularly, 171 is a good example. I don't think her responses are what she thinks I want to hear, nor do they seem particularly pointed to fit an agenda. They seem to be a very good faith engagement all around.
SzmarzLeek - Original entrance was a bit awkward, but he drops into a comfortable place pretty quick. I got some LAMIST vibes early, but by 43 they'd settled down and I think he's been pretty chill since then. I quite like the analysis present (53, for example). I do get some bad vibes off of 181, it feels like he's a little IIoA there, and the lack of conclusions is worrying. I can also grok the Gypyx TMI accusation, but I think given the context of 166 it's not really scum indicative. If Leek is just assuming that Wisp/Gypyx are town for now and reevaluating later, that definitely explains Leek acting like Gypyx is town.
Little Will o' Wisp - Very surface level analysis, not very town. There's nothing really questionable about what he's been doing, but I definitely want to see him make more waves.
Aureal - Aureal's entrance is pretty par for the course, but she hasn't really done anything yet.
Bellaphant - Who?
Gypyx - Definitely the most active, most powerful voice in the thread. Seems investigative, but in a way that could easily be scum powerwolfing. If she's town she probably gets herself shot, so I don't really care about reading her as much at this point.
NotAScum - I'm scumreading him because of the "caught for the wrong reasons" vibe I got from 72, but he's also already got significant antipartner equity with Aureal and Leek, which is odd if he's scum.

[Bingle]

because in my experience, not knowing the meta, it's townies that are doing that in more cases

Law of Large Numbers: there are more townies, so there will always be more town examples than scum examples. MS, however, tends to skew towards people who prefer townplay and I think I remember bella being one of them.

[gob]

Bingle giving a reads list after being called scum is a panic move if ive ever seen 1

[Bingle]

To clarify, gob, that's not an ordered list, that's individual impressions I gave up on ordering it halfway through making it.

[Bingle]

Bella hasn't posted on site since her last post in this thread and was similarly absent in the endgame of the last game we played, so might be a genuine IRL flake.

Bella, is there anything killing your motivation here?

[NotAScum]

Bella's inactivity is suspicious. I'm always alerted on hyper-inactive players who tend to be scum more often than not.

[Gypyx]

ok like i really should stop myself from posting on mafiascum.net but like which one is it

I think mafia will be too active to appear as town. People mistakenly think townies are on average more active than scums. So, at the end of the day, I'll change my vote to the player with the most number of posts.

Bella's inactivity is suspicious. I'm always alerted on hyper-inactive players who tend to be scum more often than not.

[Gypyx]

can't wait for NAS's third post when he says scum always wants to be in the middle of the postcounts so as not to stand out

[SzmarzLeek]

Bella's inactivity is suspicious. I'm always alerted on hyper-inactive players who tend to be scum more often than not.

can you rephrase that? because I don't really get it

what's suspicious about inactivity?

[gob]

We can lim Gypyx too

[Bingle]

Eh. Gypyx is gonna get shot if she's town, we can wait til that doesn't happen if she's scum. She's a bad lim for today for the same reason I'm a bad lim for today. Cause we scary.

[NotAScum]

can't wait for NAS's third post when he says scum always wants to be in the middle of the postcounts so as not to stand out

That is also a possibility. Though I still think scums are more likely to be more inactive in general than town.

what's suspicious about inactivity?

Hiding in the shadow to not draw any attention and then jumping on a bandwagon to blend in. Bella is inactive now but I predict they'll miraculously appear when a train has formed.

[SzmarzLeek]

I'm convincing myself that Bingle and Leek could be partners based off Bingle's defence of them. What do you think?

I still think this is the scummiest post of the game so far

like, some of you called some of my thoughts shallow, but they're deep like the ocean compared to that Nora's post

it really feels like a forced way to contribute

I also feel a bit opposition in the thread on Nora's push, higher than expected