What do you think of literally no one following up on your scumread of me and gypyx specifically ignoring it?
Do you think ‘creative’ reads/lines of thought are inherently scummy, towny, NAI, or need to be judged on a case by case? If the last, what do you think about this one and why?
Usually when my scumreads get ignored they are correct lol, and when my pushes gain traction it ends up flipping town >.> In a new environment where I know no one my pushes being ignored is probably NAI.
gypyx themself have seemed very townie to me though. They are being aggressive and to-the-point with their posts and there's this investigative tone to them, in a way that I find hard for wolves to replicate for fear of standing out too much. I don't think a wolf would want to invite others to sus them by being rude and forthright with everyone (uhm not rude in a bad sense but like...how do I put it lol, their posts all sound slightly angry).
In post 104, Nora. wrote:
I'm convincing myself that Bingle and Leek could be partners based off Bingle's defence of them. What do you think?
that's a very naive thought to make
I don't like that you had this thought
scumreading me is fine, but pointing at partnership so early seems sus to me, especially based on such situation
I think you rather stay quiet/slight sus about your partner in a 2-scum game
...well this might be my inexperience with long form forum mafia showing. I usually start looking for connections early.
Nora, what does the form of the game have to do with it? You played Discord games, right? What's the connection between forum and non-forum games and finding connections?
Do you really believe that in a 2 scum game, one scum would defend another so blatantly in d1?
In post 184, Little Will o' Wisp wrote:
I'd think scum would try to avoid doing the behavior they're scum reading people for. Is this wrong?
This is circular reasoning lol
Agreed. I've actually always thought the opposite was the case. If someone is doing something and yet saying someone else doing the same thing is sus, it's frequently an indication of a guilty conscience projecting their scumminess.
Huh. I took the hypocrisy=scummy approach for a while when I started playing again. Didn't really work for anything other than getting me into TvTs.
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
In post 212, Bingle wrote:
NotAScum - I'm scumreading him because of the "caught for the wrong reasons" vibe I got from 72, but he's also already got significant antipartner equity with Aureal and Leek, which is odd if he's scum.
Cool, can I have some more antipartner equity too?
VOTE: SzmarzLeek
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
In post 214, gob wrote:
Bingle giving a reads list after being called scum is a panic move if ive ever seen 1
Oooh, let me try too!
Nora.: look how awkward this is, it looks like I typoed a period in there
Wisp: confusing me by suspecting me for suspecting the same person he did
Gypyx: trying to be me and I don't know if I can approve of this
Bellaphant:
NotAScum: obvious LAMIST name bears scrutiny
Bingle: talks a lot
SzmarzLeek: not trying hard enough to throw people out of windows while cackling about how towny he is
gob: obvious thief is obvious
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
In post 104, Nora. wrote:
I'm convincing myself that Bingle and Leek could be partners based off Bingle's defence of them. What do you think?
I still think this is the scummiest post of the game so far
like, some of you called some of my thoughts shallow, but they're deep like the ocean compared to that Nora's post
it really feels like a forced way to contribute
I also feel a bit opposition in the thread on Nora's push, higher than expected
In post 225, SzmarzLeek wrote:
Nora, what does the form of the game have to do with it? You played Discord games, right? What's the connection between forum and non-forum games and finding connections?
Do you really believe that in a 2 scum game, one scum would defend another so blatantly in d1?
why do you keep beating the dead horse? x_x I've already explained my playstyle is contingent on fast-paced games where even in 24 hr Days we usually hammer within a few hours. Obviously there will be a difference in approaches but I think I am adapting well?
This really isn't sitting well with me because I feel I'm somewhat of an easy push here and scum can get away with pushing for my miselim without garnering much blame for it because they can say they misread me on playstyle
VOTE: SzmarzLeek
And before you say it, this isn't just mindless omgus, I am evaluating your push on me and it doesn't feel sincere >.> It feels like you are trying to think of random things to push and running out of content so you keep circling back to one thing
In post 232, Nora. wrote:
why do you keep beating the dead horse? x_x I've already explained my playstyle is contingent on fast-paced games where even in 24 hr Days we usually hammer within a few hours. Obviously there will be a difference in approaches but I think I am adapting well?
This is not what I'm asking about. You're literally avoiding answers. We're not talking being adjusted to modes.
1. I played a lot of games in 24h mode myself. Why partner strategies would be any different compared to 7 day games?
2. Do you really think that scum would be defending their partner, and that's how you reached this SvS thought?
Gypyx has continued to be townie I think and small things like pointing out the inconsistency in post 2018 is exactly what I meant when I said they have an investigative air to them. I don't necessary think it's a big deal that NAS changed their stance on Bella given gob's meta read in post 207, but once again I am just vibing with that mindset
Willow is slightly less townier than earlier but it might just be recency bias cos most of their posts that I liked were from early on and it hasnt really been quite as consistent ^^'
@NotAScum earlier you said you thought I was scummy, but you didn't elaborate, so could you maybe talk some more about that? Thanks
The only reason Bingle is placed before Aureal is because I think that Bingle is trying to engage with the game whereas Aureal seems to be messing around mostly
In post 232, Nora. wrote:
why do you keep beating the dead horse? x_x I've already explained my playstyle is contingent on fast-paced games where even in 24 hr Days we usually hammer within a few hours. Obviously there will be a difference in approaches but I think I am adapting well?
This is not what I'm asking about. You're literally avoiding answers. We're not talking being adjusted to modes.
1. I played a lot of games in 24h mode myself. Why partner strategies would be any different compared to 7 day games?
2. Do you really think that scum would be defending their partner, and that's how you reached this SvS thought?
Partner strategies are different in faster games yes because imo trigger-happy villagers are more hostile and unpredictable. If I'm scum in a fast game like that I usually panic when my partners get pushed and immediately try to push elsewhere and defend them, because momentum is key in those games and the moment momentum catches on, the game snowballs and it's hard to turn things around. Does that make sense?
And I've already clarified that I no longer think you and Bingle are ever teamed now, so your second question feels redundant. I wasn't really thinking about how scumplay would be different in a long game like this and that's my bad, I just went with instinct, but youre probably correct that they would want to distance a little bit and not be too blatant.
