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Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:27 am

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Cabs mafia
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Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:28 am

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In post 1697, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1690, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1685, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1683, Cabd wrote: No, but it does make me think that if she's mafia, her support staff is also the kind that went silent recently, which is pretty much exactly one of {LLD, STD}.

The hurry up and pair then peace out thing seems a little too on the nose to be a scum response to gaining a pairing, but I don't know how many other people subscribe to my state decay theory of the game.
Honestly i can see it,kinda matches with my theory that all the scumz are paired already
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Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:28 am

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In post 1696, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1686, Cabd wrote:
In post 1683, Cabd wrote: I don't know how many other people subscribe to my state decay theory of the game.
Nobody wanted to hear about this but heck I don't care, you get to read it anyways.

In a dance setup, the start is chaos and the end is arranged pairs.
The real way to catch people is to see who is working on getting to arrangements (without being desperate) and who is trying to slow that natural process down.
In a game with this many "known strong" players, knocking people known to be emotionally easy to "get" is the easiest way to achieve that sort of decay from the norm. And it's a major factor in my ffery town read. Not to say that all of, or even the majority of, the people scum reading her aggressively are scum in and of themselves, but just one or two of them can cause a pile-on like we're seeing now.

I don't recall ever seeing mafia at risk of being unpaired QUITE so detached as these gentlemen, which also points towards "we're stuck leaving out a townie" as a possibility here?
So i very much agree with the bolded but i'm having a hard time following the jump to where you start talking abt the implications for ffery's alignment
Ffery is exactly the kind of player whose town game is so self-confident of being able to bleed town that when it fails to occur and she's under the water like this, it's like a big hornet's nest of prickly snark and derailing.

It's sort of an unpatched flaw in that when she's mafia and being suspected, the barbs aren't nearly as sharp.
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Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:29 am

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In post 1700, Enchant wrote: Cabs mafia
Agreed.
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Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:30 am

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My bad then - i'm phone posting so it's easiest to just quote the whole post. Was referring to the scumread on gypyx and how it aligned with my theory on how the scumz are paired already

Less to do with the coaching or commenting on your activity levels, i think you've been fairly active

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Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:31 am

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Well hey, if you're right you're lucky because I'm going to die instantly and you can pat yourselves on the back for finally getting cabd-mafia super early.

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Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:32 am

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We can just call you mafia every game until you roll mafia
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Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:32 am

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Are you guys really arguing that Ffery has a Bell problem.
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Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:33 am

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In post 1706, Enchant wrote: We can just call you mafia every game until you roll mafia
Shit. You're right.

Quick, everyone lock in an officially official guess as to mine and ffery's alignments, no take-backsies. Accuracy will be graded postgame.

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Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:34 am

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In post 1702, Cabd wrote:
In post 1696, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1686, Cabd wrote:
In post 1683, Cabd wrote: I don't know how many other people subscribe to my state decay theory of the game.
Nobody wanted to hear about this but heck I don't care, you get to read it anyways.

In a dance setup, the start is chaos and the end is arranged pairs.
The real way to catch people is to see who is working on getting to arrangements (without being desperate) and who is trying to slow that natural process down.
In a game with this many "known strong" players, knocking people known to be emotionally easy to "get" is the easiest way to achieve that sort of decay from the norm. And it's a major factor in my ffery town read. Not to say that all of, or even the majority of, the people scum reading her aggressively are scum in and of themselves, but just one or two of them can cause a pile-on like we're seeing now.

I don't recall ever seeing mafia at risk of being unpaired QUITE so detached as these gentlemen, which also points towards "we're stuck leaving out a townie" as a possibility here?
So i very much agree with the bolded but i'm having a hard time following the jump to where you start talking abt the implications for ffery's alignment
Ffery is exactly the kind of player whose town game is so self-confident of being able to bleed town that when it fails to occur and she's under the water like this, it's like a big hornet's nest of prickly snark and derailing.

It's sort of an unpatched flaw in that when she's mafia and being suspected, the barbs aren't nearly as sharp.
Like you're saying: focusing on who's trying to get paird/is worried abt being unpaired is a good eay to find mafia

But town-ffery being tilted can cause enuf ~chaos overall to detract from that and mask these leads, so scum is motivates to continue pushing her

Is that what ur saying?
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Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:35 am

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In post 1699, Cabd wrote: The answer is kinda depressing, STD, but It's actually just that it's LLD I suspect of that but I know that's likely to set off in-thread hurt and now it's gonna happen anyways...

I felt the need to add at least one other name who is good at the game but whose most recent post ITT had also been before hers to prevent that. You fit both criteria.
I actually don't fit at least one of that criteria, I posted after her...
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Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:36 am

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In post 1709, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1702, Cabd wrote:
In post 1696, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1686, Cabd wrote:
In post 1683, Cabd wrote: I don't know how many other people subscribe to my state decay theory of the game.
Nobody wanted to hear about this but heck I don't care, you get to read it anyways.

In a dance setup, the start is chaos and the end is arranged pairs.
The real way to catch people is to see who is working on getting to arrangements (without being desperate) and who is trying to slow that natural process down.
In a game with this many "known strong" players, knocking people known to be emotionally easy to "get" is the easiest way to achieve that sort of decay from the norm. And it's a major factor in my ffery town read. Not to say that all of, or even the majority of, the people scum reading her aggressively are scum in and of themselves, but just one or two of them can cause a pile-on like we're seeing now.

I don't recall ever seeing mafia at risk of being unpaired QUITE so detached as these gentlemen, which also points towards "we're stuck leaving out a townie" as a possibility here?
So i very much agree with the bolded but i'm having a hard time following the jump to where you start talking abt the implications for ffery's alignment
Ffery is exactly the kind of player whose town game is so self-confident of being able to bleed town that when it fails to occur and she's under the water like this, it's like a big hornet's nest of prickly snark and derailing.

It's sort of an unpatched flaw in that when she's mafia and being suspected, the barbs aren't nearly as sharp.
Like you're saying: focusing on who's trying to get paird/is worried abt being unpaired is a good eay to find mafia

But town-ffery being tilted can cause enuf ~chaos overall to detract from that and mask these leads, so scum is motivates to continue pushing her

Is that what ur saying?
pretty much.
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Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:37 am

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In post 1710, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1699, Cabd wrote: The answer is kinda depressing, STD, but It's actually just that it's LLD I suspect of that but I know that's likely to set off in-thread hurt and now it's gonna happen anyways...

I felt the need to add at least one other name who is good at the game but whose most recent post ITT had also been before hers to prevent that. You fit both criteria.
I actually don't fit at least one of that criteria, I posted after her...
Dunno what to tell you dude, you either believe I did this with the thought process i just outlined, or you think I'm mafia and you're gonna get my flip so you can be happy. Or you're mafia with gypyx and laughing your ass off and like, I'll take that L if so.
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Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:37 am

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Hmmm i'll need to sit on that theory and process it a bit, not sure how it aligns with how i'm viewing the game
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Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:38 am

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In post 1711, Cabd wrote:
In post 1709, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1702, Cabd wrote:
In post 1696, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1686, Cabd wrote:
In post 1683, Cabd wrote: I don't know how many other people subscribe to my state decay theory of the game.
Nobody wanted to hear about this but heck I don't care, you get to read it anyways.

In a dance setup, the start is chaos and the end is arranged pairs.
The real way to catch people is to see who is working on getting to arrangements (without being desperate) and who is trying to slow that natural process down.
In a game with this many "known strong" players, knocking people known to be emotionally easy to "get" is the easiest way to achieve that sort of decay from the norm. And it's a major factor in my ffery town read. Not to say that all of, or even the majority of, the people scum reading her aggressively are scum in and of themselves, but just one or two of them can cause a pile-on like we're seeing now.

I don't recall ever seeing mafia at risk of being unpaired QUITE so detached as these gentlemen, which also points towards "we're stuck leaving out a townie" as a possibility here?
So i very much agree with the bolded but i'm having a hard time following the jump to where you start talking abt the implications for ffery's alignment
Ffery is exactly the kind of player whose town game is so self-confident of being able to bleed town that when it fails to occur and she's under the water like this, it's like a big hornet's nest of prickly snark and derailing.

It's sort of an unpatched flaw in that when she's mafia and being suspected, the barbs aren't nearly as sharp.
Like you're saying: focusing on who's trying to get paird/is worried abt being unpaired is a good eay to find mafia

But town-ffery being tilted can cause enuf ~chaos overall to detract from that and mask these leads, so scum is motivates to continue pushing her

Is that what ur saying?
pretty much.
Especially in a player list where she has direct history and connectivity such that she can potentially also chaos-share with folks like Bell and HST. (and me, obviously, but I tend to be a little more aware of that flaw of hers and less likely to tilt due to it, I think)
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Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:39 am

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I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

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Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:39 am

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Well that was fun, see you all after my next panel.

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Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:40 am

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In post 1708, Cabd wrote: Quick, everyone lock in an officially official guess as to mine and ffery's alignments, no take-backsies. Accuracy will be graded postgame.
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Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:41 am

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In post 1715, Enchant wrote: I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

Hello?
I mean, this is litterally just Town / Mafia being exed discussion right now
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Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:41 am

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And yes I am town reading Cabd again, idc what anyone thinks about it
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Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:42 am

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I know i'm not scum doing that tho, and i'm one of the main proponents of scum-ffery

The other loud people pushing that that come to mind are cakez, fire (in the beginning) and idk if they would approach the game with the pov of: i need to tilt town-ffery

Like ig who do you think is scum who is doing this?

Like sure i can see you doing this, but i don't think you're pushing ffery as scum particularly loudly

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Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:42 am

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In post 1708, Cabd wrote:
In post 1706, Enchant wrote: We can just call you mafia every game until you roll mafia
Shit. You're right.

Quick, everyone lock in an officially official guess as to mine and ffery's alignments, no take-backsies. Accuracy will be graded postgame.

Or in the dead thread roast.
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Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:43 am

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In post 1686, Cabd wrote:
In post 1683, Cabd wrote: I don't know how many other people subscribe to my state decay theory of the game.
Nobody wanted to hear about this but heck I don't care, you get to read it anyways.

In a dance setup, the start is chaos and the end is arranged pairs. The real way to catch people is to see who is working on getting to arrangements (without being desperate) and who is trying to slow that natural process down. In a game with this many "known strong" players, knocking people known to be emotionally easy to "get" is the easiest way to achieve that sort of decay from the norm. And it's a major factor in my ffery town read. Not to say that all of, or even the majority of, the people scum reading her aggressively are scum in and of themselves, but just one or two of them can cause a pile-on like we're seeing now.

I don't recall ever seeing mafia at risk of being unpaired QUITE so detached as these gentlemen, which also points towards "we're stuck leaving out a townie" as a possibility here?
I didn't come into this game with a theory about how to read the pairing process, but this does appear to be how it's worked out.

There aren't a huge number of players who know how easy I can be to get, given the right circumstances, but a very few are in this game. Including you. A couple of your instant reads bother me. You haven't been active enough to have much influence on the pairings, and if you're scum you had some dicey considerations to think about re accepting my invitation.
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Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:45 am

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In post 1718, Gypyx wrote:
In post 1715, Enchant wrote: I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

Hello?
I mean, this is litterally just Town / Mafia being exed discussion right now
How it's related
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Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:50 am

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In post 1723, Enchant wrote:
In post 1718, Gypyx wrote:
In post 1715, Enchant wrote: I want to raise question, but, why town should be calm at possiblity of being left out?

Hello?
I mean, this is litterally just Town / Mafia being exed discussion right now
How it's related
The only difference between being left / exed is that one is popular vote and the other is the choice of 1 person except they get influence by popular opinion too
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