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Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:13 pm

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In post 2022, HolySpiritTurtle wrote: You know what I think last two posts makes Lavar town.
The floor is yours sir.
Tell me why Lavar’s town.
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Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:15 pm

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Idk the whole “forcing the read” fiasco just don’t seem like an angle scum would openly take?
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Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:16 pm

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BTW, maybe there is some personal bias seeping in
but I'm not a big fan of how RCE was sorta pushed into pairing with Cakez (and this is lowkey my own fault too lol)
fmpov, RCE was sorta hedging on the fact that he could pair with Cakez, but only went forward once there was support in the thread.
Sorta just feels like scum testing the waters, and I'm gonna call a cigar a cigar and say that he is low effort scum here
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Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:18 pm

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Eh, I think they could easily have just been afraid of rejection.

Ah. Polite scum.

Fuck.
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Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:20 pm

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Eh. This is what I mean though. Lavar’s last two posts are super townie, but their posts before it aren’t really, their grammar also improved.
And they stopped typing like they’re using their grandma’s flip phone.
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Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:21 pm

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Insincere, but not necessarily scum.
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Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:21 pm

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Bell can you devote some words to your ffery scum read?
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Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:21 pm

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This isn’t what I mean though.
I was going on about something else and this is just unrelated.

I used it incorrectly, the turn of phrase, I mean.
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Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:22 pm

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In post 2014, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 2006, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1988, Spiffeh wrote: I'm really not in a position to give out more town reads but I think SirCakez is town after all.
What changed your mind here?
This game, you're not trying too hard to look like you're trying hard like I would expect you to as scum.

The specific moment I started feeling this way was here:
In post 1838, SirCakez wrote: *pollutes game environment wildly*
I think scum!SirCakez who has been largely absent throughout the game and already on his back foot doesn't take the time for a jokey, nothing post like this with no other content. I think as scum you would try to emulate a carefree attitude but fill out your posts with something that could be considered content, rather than make a silly comment that doesn't state opinions or take *effort*.

The lack of caring about how you come across is something I don't see in your scum game typically.
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Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:23 pm

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In post 2027, LavarManos wrote: BTW, maybe there is some personal bias seeping in
but I'm not a big fan of how RCE was sorta pushed into pairing with Cakez (and this is lowkey my own fault too lol)
fmpov, RCE was sorta hedging on the fact that he could pair with Cakez, but only went forward once there was support in the thread.
Sorta just feels like scum testing the waters, and I'm gonna call a cigar a cigar and say that he is low effort scum here
there was a gap between when RCE asked me and I actually accepted. Why didn't you say anything in between?
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Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:24 pm

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In post 2031, Spiffeh wrote: Bell can you devote some words to your ffery scum read?
I feel like I already did.

1. I think how they approached suspicion of them was scummy.
2. I think their confidence in some reads and not others feels wrong. I do think the first player they pushed as obv town is town though.
Though I already forgot who they were talking about.
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Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:26 pm

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I know there was a whole thing about how FF as scum has a guilt complex when pushed and they would never be underhanded as scum because that reflects a self esteem or willingness to lower themselves to get town read. Or at least, left alone.

But I just think it’s on the tin. Their engagement just isn’t right.
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Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:27 pm

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In post 2028, Bell wrote: Eh, I think they could easily have just been afraid of rejection.

Ah. Polite scum.

Fuck.
Why would someone being afraid of rejection would openly state that they are forcing a fake read to request to dance? Like, sure, transparency doesn’t always mean town, but I don’t think that’s the case here.
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Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:29 pm

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In post 2037, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:
In post 2028, Bell wrote: Eh, I think they could easily have just been afraid of rejection.

Ah. Polite scum.

Fuck.
Why would someone being afraid of rejection would openly state that they are forcing a fake read to request to dance? Like, sure, transparency doesn’t always mean town, but I don’t think that’s the case here.

Was talking about RCE.
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Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:30 pm

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Oh ok
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Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:31 pm

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Since ultimately it’s up to FIR.
I’d be super grateful if you gave a solve Lavar!
Sorry for trying to murder you and then ask for things to help me out.
I can be kind of a jerk.
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Post Post #2041 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:34 pm

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In post 2034, SirCakez wrote: there was a gap between when RCE asked me and I actually accepted. Why didn't you say anything in between?
I wasn't online
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Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:34 pm

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But if there’s one thing that absolutely will help you survive it’s a real reads list,
Since enchant is incapable of advocating for themselves! They can’t compete with your resume. Because theirs is just a picture of a fairy!
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Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:56 pm

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In post 2018, Spiffeh wrote: @ffery can you update me on your Cabd read? I get if you don't want to reveal much and just sort him in the neighborhood but I am curious about your perspective on him.
Cabd read is still ~60% Schrodinger's cat. There are some posts that ring town. But there's a fair bit of completely NAI stuff in his ISO that looks pretty but has no fire and no effort.
In post 2020, Spiffeh wrote: HST's reaction to the "scum slip" is incredibly town, btw
The reaction looks absolutely town. I dunno if I agree with the conclusion. And I question my sanity for thinking Enchant could be town here.
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Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:08 pm

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In post 2008, skitter30 wrote: i'm not convinced that's a slip
in other news i'm low-key scumreading cabd
so is fferryllt town for u now
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Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:32 pm

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ill pair up tomorrow morning i am somewhat conflicted
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Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:55 pm

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In post 2045, fireisredsir wrote: ill pair up tomorrow morning i am somewhat conflicted
Before you accept an invitation, I'd really like you to explain in detail what you're conflicted about your choices.
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Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:01 pm

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I don't think there is any real conflict
except who he thinks will be most useful to keep around.
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Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:14 pm

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Alright, this isn't for you Bell, but for the rest of the game in case I die

Thoughts:
firebringer/skitter - they've both pinged me positively in the sense that they both frequently produce original thoughts and question old ones. I would keep an eye on what kind of reads they're trying to push through, but none of them seem malicious so far imo

fferyllt/cabd - I still think a lot of her posts sound very manufactured and stilted, but it's growing on me more that perhaps she is just indignant town. On the other hand, I don't have as great of a grasp on Cabd. It feels like he has a lot of presence in the thread, but he doesn't seem to be solving as much comparatively. This is sort of a cop out, but my final verdict is that yall should hold them accountable and make sure they exit before intermission. I'm glad they don't seem opposed.

sircakez/gypyx - I agree w/ what spiffeh said about cakez, and fsr idt scum!cakez would care to question why I didn't say anything about rce proposing to him. Gypyx sounds p pure and genuine in questioning/attacking, and apparently is not known to enjoy scum so i think it's safe to go town here. Out of the two, I think I'm more confident in cakez being town, but I lump them together because it seems like there's noticable deviation from their typical scumgame.

std - I still have no clue why he achieved consensus town so quickly in the game, but his recent interactions w/ cabd and ff seem pretty earnest which I like. Honestly, there's a paranoia with this slot, but I can't rlly justify it so ig it's a case of more data needed

lld - Don't remember her too much recently, but probably in std tier

spiffeh - scum if ff town, town if ff scum. Ok, that's sorta lazy, but I also feel like his reads are a bit suspect (so many townreads, only me+fireisred as scum?). Keep an eye on this guy :cop:

rce - stated in prev post

bell/hst - still think this pair should endgame. Overall body of work + individual moments

rh9/ydrasse/fireisred/enchant - no comment
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Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:33 pm

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Eh, I feel like both of Lavar and enchant are the right choice and the wrong choice.

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