Kemusan - Game Over

[Bell]

I need to talk to Gyphx. About how they show their town.

I kind of need them to do so, since I feel pretty comfortable with town binning Spiff.

[SirCakez]

I agree that Cabd's suicide means scum is somewhere well positioned and not in the obvious suspects
I also think that might make Spiff town

I unfortunately think Fire/LLD may be a good pair to yeet here

These are contradictory thought processes, how do you go from one to the other.

*I think scum are in the townread people*
*Suggests eliminating a pair with two widely townread people from predance*

What's the issue

[Bell]

I need to talk to Gyphx. About how she shows she’s town.

I kind of need her to do so, since I feel pretty comfortable with town binning Spiff.

Ebwop.

[Bell]

How was neighborhood chat Spiff?

[RCEnigma]

How’d skitter’s and your (enigma)
Neighborhood good over the break?

It was short, I gave a little bit on why I flipped from skitter!Scum to skitter!town with enchant flipping scum and that there was probably scum in one of the consensus townreads (I specified slots that I wasn’t convinced convinced was town) and they brought up spiffeh/HST.

Idk about spiffeh but HST was the first slot that came to mind for me so.

[SirCakez]

do u think LLD can convince me not to leave or something

thats at @cakez and RCE

nah this is just a scumsiding push to eliminate us because scum is worried i'll land on them and be right at this point.

They need me dead to win, not because I'll live to endgame but because I actually give a fuck now and I'm right and when I'm right on things I tend to have my solves come together.

Yeah but which is doing it, cause i lean on cakez

Bro I am not going to endgame again, that's just not gonna happen esp with RCE attached who people probably will elim at some point, and me LMAO

[Bell]

I don’t think HST is scum, I know their main and they’ve kind of been in a scum funk lately. Trust ff there.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I agree that Cabd's suicide means scum is somewhere well positioned and not in the obvious suspects
I also think that might make Spiff town

I unfortunately think Fire/LLD may be a good pair to yeet here

These are contradictory thought processes, how do you go from one to the other.

*I think scum are in the townread people*
*Suggests eliminating a pair with two widely townread people from predance*

What's the issue

How am I a widely townread person? I'm a "kill at this point so no sense reading them in pre-dance" person".

How do you not see the contradiction of "Cabd wants to let his ace in the hole live to win" and "LLD has agreed to die, and can't escape that"

[RCEnigma]

I don’t think HST is scum, I know their main and they’ve kind of been in a scum funk lately. Trust ff there.

I want to trust in FF’ solve but also my strongest 2 townreads are you/skitter.

[RCEnigma]

I agree that Cabd's suicide means scum is somewhere well positioned and not in the obvious suspects
I also think that might make Spiff town

I unfortunately think Fire/LLD may be a good pair to yeet here

These are contradictory thought processes, how do you go from one to the other.

*I think scum are in the townread people*
*Suggests eliminating a pair with two widely townread people from predance*

What's the issue

How am I a widely townread person? I'm a "kill at this point so no sense reading them in pre-dance" person".

How do you not see the contradiction of "Cabd wants to let his ace in the hole live to win" and "LLD has agreed to die, and can't escape that"

For me you aren’t the endgame part of the scum duo. But you have a fair bit of agency with the way you angled against Cabd specifically and I don’t think that’s just by happy coincidence.

[RCEnigma]

I should say that I think that’s your leverage*

[Bell]

I don’t think HST is scum, I know their main and they’ve kind of been in a scum funk lately. Trust ff there.

I want to trust in FF’ solve but also my strongest 2 townreads are you/skitter.

You don’t have to trust their solve. Just trust the HST read. It was one of their more confident ones and they had the prerequisite reasoning.

[Bell]

FB already made the historical case that scum just always kill t-t pairings IC pairings and that significantly weakens the “well they needed to kill the obvious town pair, the fact they didn’t says a lot”

It pretty much says nothing apparently.

[RCEnigma]

Idk what that’s in reference to.

[SirCakez]

I agree that Cabd's suicide means scum is somewhere well positioned and not in the obvious suspects
I also think that might make Spiff town

I unfortunately think Fire/LLD may be a good pair to yeet here

These are contradictory thought processes, how do you go from one to the other.

*I think scum are in the townread people*
*Suggests eliminating a pair with two widely townread people from predance*

What's the issue

How am I a widely townread person? I'm a "kill at this point so no sense reading them in pre-dance" person".

How do you not see the contradiction of "Cabd wants to let his ace in the hole live to win" and "LLD has agreed to die, and can't escape that"

Who pushed you predance? The tides have turned at this point but Cabd couldn't have predicted how it would go. It also just seems like he shit the bed in general this game

[Bell]

The fact we’re alive has more to do with the IC pairing than that one of us is scum.

[RCEnigma]

I’m not arguing HST is scum because you didn’t die over the IC pairing.

Just that Cabd/enchant making the choice to instadie suggests they are comfortable with the position one or both of the remaining scum are in.

I guess that’s a point in LLDs favor.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ah, I see how this is.

If I'm right, it's because I'm scum who knows too much.

and if I'm wrong, it's because I'm scum misleading you.

I missed the part where I was scummy in either case. You've not presented anything I've done, you're literally just spewing conjecture that "oh well she COULD be scum who just knew it was cabd!"

OR I COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVING LIKE A TOWNIE AND NOW I'M BEING PUSHED OUT

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The fact that I, as a player, pushed EXTENSIVELY and LOUDLY for Enchant to be LEFT OUT PRE-DANCE.

Would make CABD'S PLAN UNDOABLE. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TWO SCUM TO LEAVE TO END THE DANCE AND KILL YDRA.

I would have had to have been playing ANTI MY ALIGNMENT'S WINCON.

[Bell]

I had an email etiquette training and I was told that all caps was bad because they might think you’re yelling at someone.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

how the fuck are people gonna go "oh you were right about enchant and we should have left enchant out pre-dance we'd be in a much better spot, oh but you COULD BE SCUM so I'm gonna say we remove you on paranoia"

Fucking, bitch please. At least let me fucking play the god damned game. I'm literally the most townie I've ever been in this moment. I feel like I'm playing Mtn Dew Mafia with how locked in on the game I am. The only difference is in THAT game I was a fucking innocent child so people HAD to listen to me instead of discrediting me with "oh but she COULD just be mafia"

Fucking El. Oh. El.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I had an email etiquette training and I was told that all caps was bad because they might think you’re yelling at someone.

Might think? Oh no, who would get that impression, lol.

[Bell]

Compared to this day phase, I would not say you extensively and loudly pushed for their death.

You didn’t even use all caps.

[RCEnigma]

Ah, I see how this is.

If I'm right, it's because I'm scum who knows too much.

and if I'm wrong, it's because I'm scum misleading you.

I missed the part where I was scummy in either case. You've not presented anything I've done, you're literally just spewing conjecture that "oh well she COULD be scum who just knew it was cabd!"

OR I COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVING LIKE A TOWNIE AND NOW I'M BEING PUSHED OUT

You could be town, I said that. But Cabd would have put a shadow over you regardless.

[RCEnigma]

I think I’m inclined to voted std today.