Mini Normal 2327: Bird Species (Game Over)

[Aristeia]

Why didn't you help me push either of them when I voted for them

why would I help you if I think you're mafia?

I'm confused by this question

If you think they could be my scumbuddies then pushing them with me a) let's you glean my reaction to their wagons and b) has a decent chance of flipping scum if the wagons actually go through. You're not doing anything with your vote actually and that kinda concerns me considering you seem to have all these scumreads

Your read on me seems lazy

(1) my suspicion of them comes from my suspicion of you - you'd have to flip scum first before I consider looking for bussing votes.
(2) seeing how they interact with you normally without my interference is a better way to glean alignment information than pegging you to a counterwagon by giving you support.
(3) allowing you to yeet a bussing teammate doesn't help me win the game - it moves you into a better position in the game thread, allows you to take more thread control and you can potentially use that to yeet the people who voted you originally but are town.
(4) my vote would be on you if I was using it, I have chosen not to and I've laid out the strategic reasons why in 251 and 252
(5) my read on you is pretty lazy I'll agree on that. is there something you're doing that you think I should be townreading you for?

[Black]

What worries me about Ari is she seems to be running alongside my wagon instead of jumping on. She's supporting it but it feels like she doesn't want to get her hands dirty

That combined with her sideline approach this game just feels bad. It doesn't feel like she has any real interest in sorting me. Her scumread feels convenient

[Aristeia]

He thinks this whole "Black is a threat" push will be believable

I don't know anyone who actually believes in this other than gob?

I think you're suspicious because of the way you reacted to him and the way you are interacting in the thread.

I don't really believe in yeeting people for their scum rep.

[Black]

(5) my read on you is pretty lazy I'll agree on that. is there something you're doing that you think I should be townreading you for?

I don't think I've done anything for you to scumread me enough to build teams based on my flip. And yeah I mean I feel like I'm being transparent with my thoughts and trying to solve what little of the game there is to solve. So I guess I should ask why do you think I'm scum?

[Black]

He thinks this whole "Black is a threat" push will be believable

I don't know anyone who actually believes in this other than gob?

I think you're suspicious because of the way you reacted to him and the way you are interacting in the thread.

I don't really believe in yeeting people for their scum rep.

StD and Naerys were both in that game

I still don't understand how my reaction to him was scummy but whatever, you don't seem to want to budge there or even discuss it furthher. How are my interactions with the thread scummy?

[Aristeia]

I don't think I've done anything for you to scumread me enough to build teams based on my flip.

I was responding to a question you were asking someone else about potential scum teams with you in it

[Aristeia]

StD and Naerys were both in that game

ok and neither of them seem interested in fearyeeting you?

[Black]

StD and Naerys were both in that game

ok and neither of them seem interested in fearyeeting you?

My original point was he could make that push because he knew it would be believable and an easy coast D1. For some reason you're turning it into a different argument trying to say no one believes him. Why are you doing that?

[Black]

Interacting with you is very difficult. You just seem like you always have to be right or something

[Black]

This game is frustrating me

[Black]

I guess I should have chilled in the shadows and not tried to figure out gob's motives for pushing me. Would that have been better for you Ari? Would that have been more townie of me? Now this god awful gob push is being twisted into a legitimate wagon and it makes me want to rip my hair out

[Aristeia]

I still don't understand how my reaction to him was scummy but whatever, you don't seem to want to budge there or even discuss it furthher. How are my interactions with the thread scummy?

I thought your reaction to gob initially was to talk to him as if he's town treating you unfairly 36 - the sense I got reading the post was that you felt it was unfair he was treating you the way he was because you beat him previously and not because of what you've done in the game so far. The reason I felt it was a scummy reaction is because you're assuming that he wants to yeet you because of your brilliant scumplay in a previous game and not because he's mafia who's trying to push a mislim, the way you talk to him in that post feels like scum frustration to me.

As for how your interactions with the thread - it feels overall like you're not sure what to do and you're just pulling catchphrases out of your go to list of things to say. I'm not sure you believe anything you've posted in terms of alignment/solving. I liked what STD said about you not believing in your gob scumread, it felt like you were trying to get somewhere rather getting there organically.

[Aristeia]

Interacting with you is very difficult. You just seem like you always have to be right or something

I'm sorry for being difficult.

I try to be right, I am often wrong.

[Aristeia]

This game is frustrating me

yea I can kind of feel that frustration sorry <3

[gob]

This game is frustrating me

im chillin

[Aristeia]

I guess I should have chilled in the shadows and not tried to figure out gob's motives for pushing me. Would that have been better for you Ari? Would that have been more townie of me? Now this god awful gob push is being twisted into a legitimate wagon and it makes me want to rip my hair out

I agree that there's not a lot of options for you as either alignment in a stagnant game state. That's another reason why I felt voting you would be bad because so many people aren't really doing anything.

I'm not like some kind of judge who's going to say whether what you're doing is right or wrong and I don't think you should think of me that way - we're just playing a game. I don't want you to rip your hair out as either alignment, I want to give you time to do townie things if you're town and if I can't get there in the end that's my fault and not yours.

[Black]

I thought your reaction to gob initially was to talk to him as if he's town treating you unfairly 36 - the sense I got reading the post was that you felt it was unfair he was treating you the way he was because you beat him previously and not because of what you've done in the game so far. The reason I felt it was a scummy reaction is because you're assuming that he wants to yeet you because of your brilliant scumplay in a previous game and not because he's mafia who's trying to push a mislim, the way you talk to him in that post feels like scum frustration to me.

I already told you I wasn't assuming he was town. I guess you're just not going to budge here for whatever reason. If you're town this is an extremely weak reason to want to fade someone. If you're scum then you're holding onto this because you don't have anything else and you can taste my mislim

As for how your interactions with the thread - it feels overall like you're not sure what to do and you're just pulling catchphrases out of your go to list of things to say. I'm not sure you believe anything you've posted in terms of alignment/solving. I liked what STD said about you not believing in your gob scumread, it felt like you were trying to get somewhere rather getting there organically.

This is something that gets said about me a lot when I'm town. That my thoughts don't feel genuine or it doesn't feel like I believe what I'm posting. Yet for some reason no matter how many times I flip town people keep saying this about me. If you are actually town here then can you just go look at some of my other town games and see if you get that same feeling? I don't know what else to say here. You're just flat out wrong about this

[Black]

This game is frustrating me

im chillin

Yeah I'm sure you're loving this

[gob]

This game is frustrating me

im chillin

Yeah I'm sure you're loving this

Eh. I dont even really disagree with what people have said. But i still want to lim you.

[Black]

Cool

[Black]

So StD and Ari are positioning to hop on my wagon. Do we have one more to seal the deal?

[gob]

Feeling kinda bad about this.

[gob]

its like in Ocarina of time where link fights dark link.

i am fighting dark gobln

[Black]

If you think I'm scum then you shouldn't feel bad. You should be viewing this as as ploy to get people off of me

[gob]

If you think I'm scum then you shouldn't feel bad. You should be viewing this as as ploy to get people off of me

Nah i still feel bad.