Mini Normal 2326 | Everything has exploded !

[DarthPunk]

Day 1 distancing with gob and then never really goes there again.

[Hu Tao]

I was also thinking Dannflor as likely scum coming in to today.

I was expecting DP to be night killed today.

(was expecting OutofOrder the night before)

It's possible Dann was role copped by gob. Which is what I'm assuming at least

[Grackaroni]

I‘m not fond of the way Grack adressed Oats regarding HT‘s fakeclaim and all.

The way he reacted to said claim was one of the reasons I had him as town.

Then why didn't you say any of that in the previous phase?

Yeah, Vivax, why can‘t you just do everything at once ?

I was busy with Luca and Oats and his zany theory about us being partnered.

It is why I'm doubting you though.

When I played with you on mafia universe you were actively trying to get people to yeet me throughout the game. In the last phase you were placing me in teams, but you weren't trying to convince anyone to yeet me or even mentioning the things I was doing that you found scummy - and obviously I'm the front runner to be yeeted now and you mention this for the first time.

[SuperfluousNinja]

New page, new repeat of my question, which will continue on every new page until this is resolved.

Of course I argue when it's convenient for me, ergo when it helps me to murder mafia, which replying to you about that particular point isn't doing, because looking at the Dunnstral wagon isn't going to help me case Luca.

I don't care about Luca. Forget about Luca for the time being. Let's pretend Luca doesn't exist.

I'm talking about this world I live in where I posted the full voting history on Dunnstral. You completely ignored it and didn't use it at all. Why?

[Grackaroni]

I was also thinking Dannflor as likely scum coming in to today.

I was expecting DP to be night killed today.

(was expecting OutofOrder the night before)

It's possible Dann was role copped by gob. Which is what I'm assuming at least

It's possible they had a good read on him.

He's also still high on the list of who I'd expect to be killed. He was definitely one of the more persuasive players.

[Vivax]

I‘m not fond of the way Grack adressed Oats regarding HT‘s fakeclaim and all.

The way he reacted to said claim was one of the reasons I had him as town.

Then why didn't you say any of that in the previous phase?

Yeah, Vivax, why can‘t you just do everything at once ?

I was busy with Luca and Oats and his zany theory about us being partnered.

It is why I'm doubting you though.

When I played with you on mafia universe you were actively trying to get people to yeet me throughout the game. In the last phase you were placing me in teams, but you weren't trying to convince anyone to yeet me or even mentioning the things I was doing that you found scummy - and obviously I'm the front runner to be yeeted now and you mention this for the first time.

Yeah that‘s why my vote is on Luca Blight.
Anything else ?

[SuperfluousNinja]

Yeah, Grack told me he really wants you to answer post 4453

[DarthPunk]

I am thinking its just grack.

POE, I don't really see a team that makes sense without him in it unless it's exactly luca/ht
and the wagonomics look really really damning.

1.) grack parked his vote on gob for most of day 1

Spoiler:

1.11

Roden (3) :

Luca Blight / SuperflousNinja / oatsmaster

Luca Blight (3) :

Vivax / outoforder / Hu Tao

DarthPunk (2) :

Dannflor / gob

gob (1) :

Grackaroni

SuperfluousNinja (1) :

Roden

oatsmaster (1) :

Naerys

Dannflor (1) :

DarthPunk

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-12 04:48:03)

Mod Notes

bzzzt

Flavor

Spoiler:

wow, already on our 11th votecount? times sure flies when you're having fun !

another thing that happened with each episode and that kinda gets dropped later on is that basically episode 2/3/4 were each shamelessly inspired from popular horror subgenres, 2 is litterally "The Thing", 3 is high school horror or like, whatever name that kind of thing has been given and 4 is a slasher movie, and while it's honestly a pretty interesting way to go about things ! Only problem is that 1, this wasn't at all part of what one would expect when starting to watch this series, and 2, this makes each episode feel completely disconnected from the other, sure like, the plot goes fowards, but it's riddled with timeskips, the worst one i'll detail in the next flavor bit

like seriously, in episode 4 we get teased the idea of "Zombie drones", i sure wonder where this is going ! (nowhere, this is going nowhere why did they do this just to stop midway)

1.12

Roden (3) :

Luca Blight / SuperflousNinja / oatsmaster

Luca Blight (3) :

outoforder / Hu Tao / DarthPunk

DarthPunk (3) :

Dannflor / gob / Roden

gob (1) :

Grackaroni

oatsmaster (1) :

Naerys

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral / Vivax

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-12 04:48:03)

Mod Notes

didn't count oatsmaster's unvote at it appears to be accidental, if you accidentally make a vote / unvote you didn't want to please correct it manually for clarity purposes

Flavor

Spoiler:

I mean i'm not being very fair here, we *do* see a zombie drone but like, only for litterally 10 seconds at the start of episode 5, like

*We're in a scrapyard, with plenty of deactivated drones in a pile*

*zoom into the pile*

*we see a drone getting back to life, who looks understeandably a bit frightened by everything*

and that's it, not like really that's IT, this place / drone / THIS WHOLE IDEA never comes up again

1.13

Luca Blight (4) :

outoforder / Hu Tao / DarthPunk / Vivax

[Exe-3]

Roden (3) :

Luca Blight / SuperflousNinja / oatsmaster

DarthPunk (3) :

Dannflor / gob / Roden

gob (1) :

Grackaroni

oatsmaster (1) :

Naerys

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-12 04:48:03)

Mod Notes

Flavor filled out from VC 10 to the current one !

Flavor

Spoiler:

Ok so i'm gonna be real i didn't plan for this day to go up to page 13 so things are gonna get mostly improvised here, like, i swear i have a lot to talk about still, but i wouldn't wanna get

too

far on scheduele, so instead let's talk get more lighthearted !

the soundtrack is *really* good, like, extremely, the only thing that is sad about it is that a lot of them actually work around the dialogue and get more calm when it happens, so it's a bit tough to listen to it individually

the style is a mix of rock / dark electro and it works really well, here would be my 2 personal favorites !

1.14

Roden (4) :

Luca Blight / SuperflousNinja / oatsmaster / Dannflor

[Exe-3]

Luca Blight (2) :

outoforder / Hu Tao

DarthPunk (2) :

/ gob / Roden

Hu Tao (2) :

DarthPunk / Vivax

oatsmaster (1) :

Naerys

gob (1) :

Grackaroni

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-12 04:48:03)

Mod Notes

Empty

Flavor

Spoiler:

All the music is done by AJ Dispirito, i strongly encourage you to check out his channel where he posted every ost if you were curious about those ! It's certainely one of the only things about this series that is consistently good

anyways i'll probably throw random murder drones related images until end of day (yes picture me as in flavor throwing you printed memes, that is my artistic intent here)

1.15

Roden (4) :

Luca Blight / SuperflousNinja / oatsmaster / Dannflor

[Exe-3]

Vivax (2) :

Hu Tao / Naerys

Dunnstral (2) :

gob / Vivax

DarthPunk (1) :

Roden

Hu Tao (1) :

DarthPunk

gob (1) :

Grackaroni

Luca Blight (1) :

outoforder

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-12 04:48:03)

Mod Notes

Empty

Flavor

Spoiler:

Here, the 13 of you can see a crudely drawn picture of the murder drones characters "V" and "Lizzy" passionately making out

this image is humorous both by it's simplistic nature, which only serves to exacerbate the passion depicted in their show of love, and by the caption above, deepening the shock value of such an art piece by pointing it out for the viewer to reflect upon

2.) this vote on oats is really suspect, in terms of timing when the balance is Oats/gob particularly in light of the day 1 gob vote.

Spoiler:

2.10

Oatsmaster (4) :

SuperfluousNinja / Dannflor / Luca Blight / gob

[Exe-2]

Gob (3) :

Naerys / DarthPunk / Hu Tao

[Exe-3]

SuperfluousNinja (2) :

outoforder / Vivax

Luca Blight (1) :

oatsmaster

Not Voting (1):

Grackaroni

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to secure an execution.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2024-02-18 14:43:52)

Mod Notes

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2.11

Oatsmaster (4) :

SuperfluousNinja / Dannflor / Luca Blight / Grackaroni

[Exe-2]

Gob (3) :

Naerys / Hu Tao / Darth Punk

[Exe-3]

SuperfluousNinja (1) :

outoforder

Luca Blight (1) :

oatsmaster

outoforder (1) :

gob

Not Voting (1):

Vivax

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to secure an execution.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2024-02-18 14:43:52)

Mod Notes

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3.) Leading my counter wagon to gob here.

Spoiler:

2.6

DarthPunk (4) :

Grackaroni / Luca Blight / Hu Tao / gob

[Exe-2]

Gob (4) :

Naerys / outoforder / DarthPunk / Dannflor

[Exe-2]

Luca Blight (2) :

oatsmaster / Vivax

Oatsmaster (1) :

SuperfluousNinja

Not Voting (0):

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to secure an execution.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2024-02-18 14:43:52)

Mod Notes

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no thoughts?

[Vivax]

I don‘t answer to violence and coercion.

[SuperfluousNinja]

I'm not using violence or coercion dude. Where is this coming from?

[SuperfluousNinja]

By playing this game, you agree to participate in it. If I am breaking any rules by answering the question, the mod is free to tell me so. Short of mod telling me that my question is too violent and coercive, you should be safe to answer the question.

[Luca Blight]

This reminds me of another question Vivax had continuously avoided:

Ergo Dannflor is mafia, cause he ignores that, votes Oats, but still should rather vote DP if he was town adhering to his stated beliefs.
The gob vote was a distancing attempt.

Do you think dann could fake the introspection and adjustment to his approach with the TL players this game?

I found that really townie to be honest.

I don't know about that but he should form the two following thoughts:

Are these wagons town on town?
He voted gob previously so clearly he doesn't think that.

If he thought gob was mafia, why vote Oats who was just coming around to vote gob (unless he assumed that was a setup for a bus)?

If Oats isn't bussing he can only be partnered with you, so if he thinks gob is the mafia being wagoned, how can he ever suspect Oats for prepping a vote on him?

I don't get this way of looking at the game at all. You can hold two separate scumreads on the two main wagons and change your mind based on subsequent posts. I don't get your point about oats only being able to be partnered with Darth, either. You seem to be operating from the perspective than Gob is definitely scum, even though you townread him not too long ago?

I operated from both perspectives as evidenced by me also trying to take gob's perspective on who he should scumread if he was analyzing both wagons knowing he was town and believing that DP was mafia.

What is so hard to understand ?
If me and Oats and Superfluousninja had at least two mafia we would both be working to hammer the town of the two wagons instead of delaying.

Then you show up and randomly say me and Oats can be mafia together because you haven't put a shred of decent analysis into the wagon formation. That's another reason for me to be unable to townread you.

Mafia isn't so black and white that you can say 'when the wagons are like this, scum do this', unless it's melo and scum can literally win the game by quick hammering. Until that point anything is possible, and pre-flip wagon analysis is quite often pointless.

The fact you're so aware of the wagons yourself means that if you were scum, you would play in a way that you could manipulate the wagons to portray yourself or your buddies as being town with such reasoning.

Ah the good old perpetual wifom approach.
If i were scum, do you think I'd position myself to vote gob instead of DP when I started the day portraying DP as mafia?

Or were those genuine doubts?

Because I am tempted to move DP back into mafia territory when I read your posts and see how quickly you decided to townread him.

Tell me, what is gob doing that looks like he

doesn't

want to be eliminated?

What is this question about? It made no sense in the context of what was being discussed, and you ignored my attempts to clarify what you were talking about here. And if it's an actual question, why would you not want to follow up on it?

[SuperfluousNinja]

I almost want to demand that literally nobody else be allowed to talk about anything until Vivax answers this stuff. He is getting away with absolute murder by dodging all of this. I won't be surprised if he comes in here with "welp, would you look at the time! I gotta get to work and / or sleep, bye!" only to pretend that the questions don't exist.

The question avoidance is probably the #1 reason I scumread him.

[SuperfluousNinja]

And frankly it insults my intelligence for him to think he can get away with it.

[Luca Blight]

I am thinking its just grack.

POE, I don't really see a team that makes sense without him in it unless it's exactly luca/ht
and the wagonomics look really really damning.

1.) grack parked his vote on gob for most of day 1

Spoiler:

1.11

Roden (3) :

Luca Blight / SuperflousNinja / oatsmaster

Luca Blight (3) :

Vivax / outoforder / Hu Tao

DarthPunk (2) :

Dannflor / gob

gob (1) :

Grackaroni

SuperfluousNinja (1) :

Roden

oatsmaster (1) :

Naerys

Dannflor (1) :

DarthPunk

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-12 04:48:03)

Mod Notes

bzzzt

Flavor

Spoiler:

wow, already on our 11th votecount? times sure flies when you're having fun !

another thing that happened with each episode and that kinda gets dropped later on is that basically episode 2/3/4 were each shamelessly inspired from popular horror subgenres, 2 is litterally "The Thing", 3 is high school horror or like, whatever name that kind of thing has been given and 4 is a slasher movie, and while it's honestly a pretty interesting way to go about things ! Only problem is that 1, this wasn't at all part of what one would expect when starting to watch this series, and 2, this makes each episode feel completely disconnected from the other, sure like, the plot goes fowards, but it's riddled with timeskips, the worst one i'll detail in the next flavor bit

like seriously, in episode 4 we get teased the idea of "Zombie drones", i sure wonder where this is going ! (nowhere, this is going nowhere why did they do this just to stop midway)

1.12

Roden (3) :

Luca Blight / SuperflousNinja / oatsmaster

Luca Blight (3) :

outoforder / Hu Tao / DarthPunk

DarthPunk (3) :

Dannflor / gob / Roden

gob (1) :

Grackaroni

oatsmaster (1) :

Naerys

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral / Vivax

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-12 04:48:03)

Mod Notes

didn't count oatsmaster's unvote at it appears to be accidental, if you accidentally make a vote / unvote you didn't want to please correct it manually for clarity purposes

Flavor

Spoiler:

I mean i'm not being very fair here, we *do* see a zombie drone but like, only for litterally 10 seconds at the start of episode 5, like

*We're in a scrapyard, with plenty of deactivated drones in a pile*

*zoom into the pile*

*we see a drone getting back to life, who looks understeandably a bit frightened by everything*

and that's it, not like really that's IT, this place / drone / THIS WHOLE IDEA never comes up again

1.13

Luca Blight (4) :

outoforder / Hu Tao / DarthPunk / Vivax

[Exe-3]

Roden (3) :

Luca Blight / SuperflousNinja / oatsmaster

DarthPunk (3) :

Dannflor / gob / Roden

gob (1) :

Grackaroni

oatsmaster (1) :

Naerys

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-12 04:48:03)

Mod Notes

Flavor filled out from VC 10 to the current one !

Flavor

Spoiler:

Ok so i'm gonna be real i didn't plan for this day to go up to page 13 so things are gonna get mostly improvised here, like, i swear i have a lot to talk about still, but i wouldn't wanna get

too

far on scheduele, so instead let's talk get more lighthearted !

the soundtrack is *really* good, like, extremely, the only thing that is sad about it is that a lot of them actually work around the dialogue and get more calm when it happens, so it's a bit tough to listen to it individually

the style is a mix of rock / dark electro and it works really well, here would be my 2 personal favorites !

1.14

Roden (4) :

Luca Blight / SuperflousNinja / oatsmaster / Dannflor

[Exe-3]

Luca Blight (2) :

outoforder / Hu Tao

DarthPunk (2) :

/ gob / Roden

Hu Tao (2) :

DarthPunk / Vivax

oatsmaster (1) :

Naerys

gob (1) :

Grackaroni

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-12 04:48:03)

Mod Notes

Empty

Flavor

Spoiler:

All the music is done by AJ Dispirito, i strongly encourage you to check out his channel where he posted every ost if you were curious about those ! It's certainely one of the only things about this series that is consistently good

anyways i'll probably throw random murder drones related images until end of day (yes picture me as in flavor throwing you printed memes, that is my artistic intent here)

1.15

Roden (4) :

Luca Blight / SuperflousNinja / oatsmaster / Dannflor

[Exe-3]

Vivax (2) :

Hu Tao / Naerys

Dunnstral (2) :

gob / Vivax

DarthPunk (1) :

Roden

Hu Tao (1) :

DarthPunk

gob (1) :

Grackaroni

Luca Blight (1) :

outoforder

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to secure an execution.

Day One ends in (expired on 2024-02-12 04:48:03)

Mod Notes

Empty

Flavor

Spoiler:

Here, the 13 of you can see a crudely drawn picture of the murder drones characters "V" and "Lizzy" passionately making out

this image is humorous both by it's simplistic nature, which only serves to exacerbate the passion depicted in their show of love, and by the caption above, deepening the shock value of such an art piece by pointing it out for the viewer to reflect upon

2.) this vote on oats is really suspect, in terms of timing when the balance is Oats/gob particularly in light of the day 1 gob vote.

Spoiler:

2.10

Oatsmaster (4) :

SuperfluousNinja / Dannflor / Luca Blight / gob

[Exe-2]

Gob (3) :

Naerys / DarthPunk / Hu Tao

[Exe-3]

SuperfluousNinja (2) :

outoforder / Vivax

Luca Blight (1) :

oatsmaster

Not Voting (1):

Grackaroni

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to secure an execution.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2024-02-18 14:43:52)

Mod Notes

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2.11

Oatsmaster (4) :

SuperfluousNinja / Dannflor / Luca Blight / Grackaroni

[Exe-2]

Gob (3) :

Naerys / Hu Tao / Darth Punk

[Exe-3]

SuperfluousNinja (1) :

outoforder

Luca Blight (1) :

oatsmaster

outoforder (1) :

gob

Not Voting (1):

Vivax

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to secure an execution.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2024-02-18 14:43:52)

Mod Notes

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3.) Leading my counter wagon to gob here.

Spoiler:

2.6

DarthPunk (4) :

Grackaroni / Luca Blight / Hu Tao / gob

[Exe-2]

Gob (4) :

Naerys / outoforder / DarthPunk / Dannflor

[Exe-2]

Luca Blight (2) :

oatsmaster / Vivax

Oatsmaster (1) :

SuperfluousNinja

Not Voting (0):

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to secure an execution.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2024-02-18 14:43:52)

Mod Notes

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no thoughts?

I think it's interesting. Parking your vote harmlessly on your partner D1 can be a good strategy for scum. I need to spend more time reviewing Grack in general, though.

[Vivax]

I'm not using violence or coercion dude. Where is this coming from?

Extorting attention is a form of violence I am familiar with.

I will not answer your question.

[SuperfluousNinja]

BTW you can draw a sharp contrast between how Vivax handles questions and how Luca handles questions. I don't think Luca has dodged a single question that was directed at him, for this entire game (correct me if I'm wrong). But it sure seems to me like he's willing to answer everything.

[Luca Blight]

I'm not using violence or coercion dude. Where is this coming from?

Extorting attention is a form of violence I am familiar with.

I will not answer your question.

Will you answer my question in 4461?

[SuperfluousNinja]

I'm not using violence or coercion dude. Where is this coming from?

Extorting attention is a form of violence I am familiar with.

I will not answer your question.

It's not about attention at all. If I had a way to drop my question into an anonymous question box to be answered by anyone, I would.

Accusing me of being attention-seeking is making this personal when this isn't personal at all. I know it sucks to lose a game that you've spent weeks on, but it still isn't personal in that case. I want fuck-all to do with attention and I resent the implication that that's what I'm after.

[SuperfluousNinja]

It's not about attention at all. If I had a way to drop my question into an anonymous question box to be

ASKED

by anyone, I would.

Fixed.

[Vivax]

I'm not using violence or coercion dude. Where is this coming from?

Extorting attention is a form of violence I am familiar with.

I will not answer your question.

Will you answer my question in 4461?

I think I have been vocal about assuming gob was too scummy to be scum for most of the game.

I wasn‘t really floating him as a mafia member, but also not really opposed to hin being yeeted if we exclude the diarrhea joke.

[DarthPunk]

BTW you can draw a sharp contrast between how Vivax handles questions and how Luca handles questions. I don't think Luca has dodged a single question that was directed at him, for this entire game (correct me if I'm wrong). But it sure seems to me like he's willing to answer everything.

I don’t really agree with this. Regardless of alignment I think Luca has definitely had moments of talking his way around questions.

This has all been covered by myself and ooo previously.

[Luca Blight]

I'm not using violence or coercion dude. Where is this coming from?

Extorting attention is a form of violence I am familiar with.

I will not answer your question.

Will you answer my question in 4461?

I think I have been vocal about assuming gob was too scummy to be scum for most of the game.

I wasn‘t really floating him as a mafia member, but also not really opposed to hin being yeeted if we exclude the diarrhea joke.

I still don't understand the question in the context of what we were talking about. We were discussing your points about the wagons, and then you suddenly throw in your question about Gob which was irrelevant to what we were discussing.

Were you trying to convince me Gob was town?

[Vivax]

I'm not using violence or coercion dude. Where is this coming from?

Extorting attention is a form of violence I am familiar with.

I will not answer your question.

Will you answer my question in 4461?

I think I have been vocal about assuming gob was too scummy to be scum for most of the game.

I wasn‘t really floating him as a mafia member, but also not really opposed to hin being yeeted if we exclude the diarrhea joke.

I still don't understand the question in the context of what we were talking about. We were discussing your points about the wagons, and then you suddenly throw in your question about Gob which was irrelevant to what we were discussing.

Were you trying to convince me Gob was town?

Mostly I was trying to convince everyone that you‘d have been a better target than him.

Not because I dislike you or anything, I just thought your odds of flipping mafia were higher.

[Vivax]

I think you are very sneaky. That‘s what I‘m on the lookout for.

I will have to dig more even though the argument presented today should have sufficed in my opinion.