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I'm going to take a step back and consider the game from the perspective that Vivax might be town. The last thing I want is to get tunnelled again.
I'll be back later with some analysis.-
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DarthPunk He/HimGoonHe/Him
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I really don't like grack just getting on the vivax train without really saying much else after 4 days of not posting."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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I don't deny I was the most responsible for pushing the yeet on to Oats and have probably acted as scum's best ally throughout the course of this game.In post 4457, DarthPunk wrote:
no thoughts?In post 4446, DarthPunk wrote: I am thinking its just grack.
POE, I don't really see a team that makes sense without him in it unless it's exactly luca/ht
and the wagonomics look really really damning.
1.) grack parked his vote on gob for most of day 1
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2.) this vote on oats is really suspect, in terms of timing when the balance is Oats/gob particularly in light of the day 1 gob vote.
Spoiler:
3.) Leading my counter wagon to gob here.
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From what I recall when I pushed on to you the main focus was on Luca rather than Gob. I'd guess Gob's wagon probably formed after the Luca wagon dissipated, which is different from the agenda that you're suggesting.
I'd like to heavily caution everybody that the scum team was very likely aware that Gob would be flipped in this game and that they would be cautious of how their posts would be viewed after his flip. I'm looking at the two wagons of Ninja/Dann/Luca/me versus Hu-Tao/nearys/DarthPunk and it's just overwhelmingly more likely that mafia was pushing Gob rather than trying to save him.
I played the last day in a very unclean way that was bound to lead me to getting in a lot of trouble. I came in with the assumption that Gob was probably mafia. Without waiting for a flip I foolishly jumped on a post Oats had made about Gob that I didn't think could come from a townie and took the lead in executing Oats. This is not how I would play as mafia. As mafia I would be want to be seen as in favor of yeeting Gob and then wait to start connecting him to other people to him after he has already flipped when my push will be viewed as logical to most of the player base.
This is what you/Naerys are doing at the moment with this vote wagon case imo.-
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so you think me and naerys are scum now?In post 4477, Grackaroni wrote:
I don't deny I was the most responsible for pushing the yeet on to Oats and have probably acted as scum's best ally throughout the course of this game.In post 4457, DarthPunk wrote:
no thoughts?In post 4446, DarthPunk wrote: I am thinking its just grack.
POE, I don't really see a team that makes sense without him in it unless it's exactly luca/ht
and the wagonomics look really really damning.
1.) grack parked his vote on gob for most of day 1
Spoiler:
2.) this vote on oats is really suspect, in terms of timing when the balance is Oats/gob particularly in light of the day 1 gob vote.
Spoiler:
3.) Leading my counter wagon to gob here.
Spoiler:
From what I recall when I pushed on to you the main focus was on Luca rather than Gob. I'd guess Gob's wagon probably formed after the Luca wagon dissipated, which is different from the agenda that you're suggesting.
I'd like to heavily caution everybody that the scum team was very likely aware that Gob would be flipped in this game and that they would be cautious of how their posts would be viewed after his flip. I'm looking at the two wagons of Ninja/Dann/Luca/me versus Hu-Tao/nearys/DarthPunk and it's just overwhelmingly more likely that mafia was pushing Gob rather than trying to save him.
I played the last day in a very unclean way that was bound to lead me to getting in a lot of trouble. I came in with the assumption that Gob was probably mafia. Without waiting for a flip I foolishly jumped on a post Oats had made about Gob that I didn't think could come from a townie and took the lead in executing Oats. This is not how I would play as mafia. As mafia I would be want to be seen as in favor of yeeting Gob and then wait to start connecting him to other people to him after he has already flipped when my push will be viewed as logical to most of the player base.
This is what you/Naerys are doing at the moment with this vote wagon case imo."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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Grack, regardless of alignment you know people are always going to look at the wagons like this right?"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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DarthPunk He/HimGoonHe/Him
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Can you just post your reads on the game. So that I can evaluate if how you view things makes any sense.
I legit have no idea about your worldview right now."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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Ok - but it isn't me.In post 4479, DarthPunk wrote: Grack, regardless of alignment you know people are always going to look at the wagons like this right?
I'm basically notorious for bussing to make myself look good.
Is this really the game and Gob the player where I decide that I really need to put myself out on a limb to save my teammate?
Let's consider I get executed and flip town. Does that now mean that Luca was the player protecting Gob? Or do you think that if I'm town then mafia was ok with Gob being yeeted?-
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1.) I don't really have a meta read on you, I can't recall playing with you that much back in the day. I will take your word on that though.In post 4481, Grackaroni wrote:
Ok - but it isn't me.In post 4479, DarthPunk wrote: Grack, regardless of alignment you know people are always going to look at the wagons like this right?
I'm basically notorious for bussing to make myself look good.
Is this really the game and Gob the player where I decide that I really need to put myself out on a limb to save my teammate?
Let's consider I get executed and flip town. Does that now mean that Luca was the player protecting Gob? Or do you think that if I'm town then mafia was ok with Gob being yeeted?
2.) WIFOM, I don't really think you did put yourself out there to protect him though, its more you were just always on the wrong wagons while not really having a read on him. - this is scummier and more plausible imo.
3.) I know who i think is mafia if you are town, who do you think is mafia first?"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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DarthPunk He/HimGoonHe/Him
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In post 4480, DarthPunk wrote: Can you just post your reads on the game. So that I can evaluate if how you view things makes any sense.
I legit have no idea about your worldview right now."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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I think it's Dp and Vivax.-
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what did you mean by this then?In post 4477, Grackaroni wrote:
I don't deny I was the most responsible for pushing the yeet on to Oats and have probably acted as scum's best ally throughout the course of this game.In post 4457, DarthPunk wrote:
no thoughts?In post 4446, DarthPunk wrote: I am thinking its just grack.
POE, I don't really see a team that makes sense without him in it unless it's exactly luca/ht
and the wagonomics look really really damning.
1.) grack parked his vote on gob for most of day 1
Spoiler:
2.) this vote on oats is really suspect, in terms of timing when the balance is Oats/gob particularly in light of the day 1 gob vote.
Spoiler:
3.) Leading my counter wagon to gob here.
Spoiler:
From what I recall when I pushed on to you the main focus was on Luca rather than Gob. I'd guess Gob's wagon probably formed after the Luca wagon dissipated, which is different from the agenda that you're suggesting.
I'd like to heavily caution everybody that the scum team was very likely aware that Gob would be flipped in this game and that they would be cautious of how their posts would be viewed after his flip. I'm looking at the two wagons of Ninja/Dann/Luca/me versus Hu-Tao/nearys/DarthPunk and it's just overwhelmingly more likely that mafia was pushing Gob rather than trying to save him.
I played the last day in a very unclean way that was bound to lead me to getting in a lot of trouble. I came in with the assumption that Gob was probably mafia. Without waiting for a flip I foolishly jumped on a post Oats had made about Gob that I didn't think could come from a townie and took the lead in executing Oats. This is not how I would play as mafia. As mafia I would be want to be seen as in favor of yeeting Gob and then wait to start connecting him to other people to him after he has already flipped when my push will be viewed as logical to most of the player base.
This is what you/Naerys are doing at the moment with this vote wagon case imo."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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You think I would hard defend vivax like this as Maf/maf?In post 4484, Grackaroni wrote: I think it's Dp and Vivax."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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VOTE: Grackaroni"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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lolIn post 4484, Grackaroni wrote: I think it's Dp and Vivax.
Okay, sign this please:
We convince everyone in the game that it's either DP and me or you and Luca and each day we yeet one from each team.
Guess who wins?-
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In post 4486, DarthPunk wrote:
You think I would hard defend vivax like this as Maf/maf?In post 4484, Grackaroni wrote: I think it's Dp and Vivax.
How the hell should we know?
I think Grack is right.-
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I think he is mafia.In post 4489, SuperfluousNinja wrote:In post 4486, DarthPunk wrote:
You think I would hard defend vivax like this as Maf/maf?In post 4484, Grackaroni wrote: I think it's Dp and Vivax.
How the hell should we know?
I think Grack is right."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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I think you are so tunnelled on vivax that you are going to throw the game away ninja tbh."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was.-
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lolIn post 4492, SuperfluousNinja wrote: If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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I am not sure who the last mafia is TBH. I think grack is mafia though.In post 4488, Vivax wrote:
lolIn post 4484, Grackaroni wrote: I think it's Dp and Vivax.
Okay, sign this please:
We convince everyone in the game that it's either DP and me or you and Luca and each day we yeet one from each team.
Guess who wins?"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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What happened to this Ninja?In post 4193, SuperfluousNinja wrote: Current reads:
TOWN
Luca
Darth
Dannflor
Hu Tao
NULL
Naerys
Grack
SCUM
Gob
Vivax
I feel quite good about the town pool and the scum reads. Final scum has got to be one of Naerys / Grack. I admit that my strong scum read of Vivax has caused me to kinda use him as a focal point and see what others have said about him, how they have interacted with him.Grack seems to have largely avoided talking to Vivax or talking about him, so although he was previously a town read for me, that's moved him into the null column for me.
But I can also easily see a world where the final scum is just Naerys.
Mostly, I think at this point I just will drop my jaw if any of my town reads are actually scum. Luca, Darth, and Dann in particular have done lots of poking and prodding and good investigative work, and Hu Tao has also, though with Hu Tao it's honestly more about how unlikely it is to me that they would pull these gambits that they have pulled if they were scum. If you fooled me, Hu Tao, welp, I tip my cap to you, I guess, and I'll keep my mind open to any interesting evidence I missed before, but I can't convince myself you're scum."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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By his own admission, grack is likely to be bussing vivax right now even if Vivax is mafia.
To me you are so fixated on your vivax read that you just think anyone who disagrees with you is mafia. But you are honestly more likely to get pocketed right now by mafia than anything else, particularly as you have shown throughout the game that you have a tendency to scum read people that don't agree with your reads.
I know this is WIFOM but it is -also- why I am not mafia, if I was mafia I would have just pocketed you and moved along with your vivax yeet.
But I am town and I am also good at reading vivax, so you are on the wrong track here.
You are confirmed town, so you are probably just going to do what you are going to do, but at least I will be able to point to this later and you will see where the game went off the rails."If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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In post 4488, Vivax wrote:
lolIn post 4484, Grackaroni wrote: I think it's Dp and Vivax.
Okay, sign this please:
We convince everyone in the game that it's either DP and me or you and Luca and each day we yeet one from each team.
Guess who wins?
Which of you and DP do we yeet first in this scenario?-
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ok lost cause lol.In post 4497, SuperfluousNinja wrote:In post 4488, Vivax wrote:
lolIn post 4484, Grackaroni wrote: I think it's Dp and Vivax.
Okay, sign this please:
We convince everyone in the game that it's either DP and me or you and Luca and each day we yeet one from each team.
Guess who wins?
Which of you and DP do we yeet first in this scenario?"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."-
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Yeah I think his approach to the game today reeked of a malicious angle.In post 4494, DarthPunk wrote:
I am not sure who the last mafia is TBH. I think grack is mafia though.In post 4488, Vivax wrote:
lolIn post 4484, Grackaroni wrote: I think it's Dp and Vivax.
Okay, sign this please:
We convince everyone in the game that it's either DP and me or you and Luca and each day we yeet one from each team.
Guess who wins?
Saying I was instantly ready to hop on him is quite the misrep. I think I have put in the legwork.
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