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[SuperfluousNinja]

Vivax, if you answer my question in post 4453, I'll cast the hammer vote!

Don't get in the way of progress, Vivax

Hammer please.

Ask him to answer the questions!

[SuperfluousNinja]

Come on Grack, do you want to get hammered or what? Put that pressure on Vivax with me!

[Grackaroni]

Vivax, if you answer my question in post 4453, I'll cast the hammer vote!

Don't get in the way of progress, Vivax

Hammer please.

Ask him to answer the questions!

I don't even know what the questions are. I got caught up replying to DP's attempt to bury me with his scum-motivated crap.

I do think Vivax was very shifty in his reply to me.

[SuperfluousNinja]

They are in post 4453.

[SuperfluousNinja]

Grack, if you are town, why not put up more of a fight? You know that if we get this wrong, we have just one chance left. Why put all this pressure on us townies to get the next two right?

[Grackaroni]

Come on Grack, do you want to get hammered or what? Put that pressure on Vivax with me!

Honestly I do. Everyone is convinced I'm scum and I don't have a great idea of what's going on anyways.

[SuperfluousNinja]

Okay.

Well if someone is going to hammer you, it's not going to be me.

I'm deeply concerned that DP / Vivax are playing us. No way in hell is it smart to give them what they want so fast, if they are the scum team.

When you are tired, Grack, learn to rest, not to quit.

Get some sleep and let's sort this all out over the course of the day. No need to rush into such an early hammer.

I'm going to sleep.

[Gypyx]

4.2

Grackaroni (3) :

Naerys / DarthPunk / Vivax

Vivax (1) :

SuperfluousNinja

DarthPunk (1) :

Grackaroni

Not Voting (2):

Hu Tao / Luca Blight

With 7 Alive, it takes 4 to secure an execution.

Day Four ends in (expired on 2024-02-27 16:38:49)

Mod Notes

sorry for the delay.

[Vivax]

I almost forgot the homework assignment I pursued over the night phase. I documented the vote wagon on Dunnstral to see if anything interesting came up. The full history of votes on Dunnstral on Day 1:

Grack - 1st vote on Dunnstral (pg 29)
Darth - 2nd (pg 29)
Hu Tao - 3rd (pg 35)
Oats - 4th (pg 36)
Dannflor - 5th (pg 36)

Then OOO yells at Oats and Dannflor, and Dannflor immediately switches off Dunnstral and votes Roden

That's absolutely very fucking stupid, both of you!!!

Then Darth unvotes (pg 37), followed by Oats (pg 38), followed by Hu Tao (pg 39)
Only Grack is voting Dunnstral at this point

Much later, Grack switches to Gob (pg 62), 0 votes on Dunnstral

On Wednesday, a new Dunnstral vote begins:
Gob - 1st (pg 79)
Vivax - 2nd (pg 79)

Then Vivax switches his vote to Roden (pg 80) which puts Roden at -1
Only Gob on Dunnstral

Voting continues some pages later:
Luca - 2nd (pg 92)
OOO - 3rd (pg 93)

Then OOO hops off Dunnstral to vote Hu Tao, then Darth immediately votes Hu Tao, then OOO immediately puts his vote right back on Dunnstral (pg 94)

Darth - 4th (pg 95), after light encouragement from Oats to vote Dunnstral
Oats - 5th (pg 95)
Vivax - 6th (pg 95) which puts Dunnstral at -1
Dannflor - 7th (pg 97), hammer vote

This one ?
I just can‘t get much from the Dunnstral elim in terms of information.

Maybe if Grack flips mafia we can tell that mafia initiated the wagon on him twice?

Does that answer it ?

[Vivax]

Maybe if I had an anime avatar, Keckaroni would find me tonally townie as well.

Plot twist: He‘s with Hu Tao

[Grackaroni]

Why is Naerys town to you Vivax?

[Vivax]

Why is Naerys town to you Vivax?

The tone mostly+the jk thing.
And she isn‘t trying to murder me that‘s a bonus.

[Grackaroni]

Why is Naerys town to you Vivax?

The tone mostly+the jk thing.
And she isn‘t trying to murder me that‘s a bonus.

I don't really see why that lead you to banish the idea of her being mafia from reading her ISO.

Her tone has been the same throughout the whole game.

[Luca Blight]

HEAR MY CLAIM.

If that is really your claim, this gon be a real short day.

intent to hammer

Let's not rush this. Remember, you're probably going to be the night-kill and won't be able to influence the game further, so it's important we carefully consider everything now.

My son had an accident at school, so I'm not going to be on the the rest of the day. Hopefully review everything Tomorrow.

[Naerys]

Why is Naerys town to you Vivax?

The tone mostly+the jk thing.
And she isn‘t trying to murder me that‘s a bonus.

Just for ur info i am SR you along with Grack

[DarthPunk]

UNVOTE: grackaroni


I am too busy to keep up. Happy to sort out the fallout from whatever just happened later

[Luca Blight]

Just looking over some of Grack's interactions with/about Gob, this string of posts caught my eye:

Spoiler:

Grack now that I explained my Oates read can you please explain your inexplicable gob read.

There's not much behind it beyond what I've said. He seems to just throw out scum reads on people without any concern at all for how his posts may look in the thread.

He may be just giggling in the scum chat like Vivax for all I know. I've just never seen anyone play scum like this before.

Grack now that I explained my Oates read can you please explain your inexplicable gob read.

There's not much behind it beyond what I've said. He seems to just throw out scum reads on people without any concern at all for how his posts may look in the thread.

He may be just giggling in the scum chat like Vivax for all I know. I've just never seen anyone play scum like this before.

So how do we test his thinking at all? Can he just do whatever and face no consequences for it?

Eh actually you're probably right. He should be pressured a lot more. These posts read like one of my attempts at bussing a teammate from 12 years ago. The trust me guys, I know dann just reads so heavily as "I'm on a team with dann and I will be vindicated."

Dannfloor is the mafia btw. I'm pretty sure. I'm not really feeling up to casing him rn.... because idk, i started doordashing to make extra money tbh. Taking up my time and enrgy.

I'm going to go over everything one more time before EoD though.

VOTE: Dannfloor

Ninja, Oatmasters. Hop on this to pressure Dann. Trust me on this one, i know dann.

I legit cannot remember why I thought dannfloor was scummy... I had a good reason why he was the right vote at work but i forgot it.

VOTE: DarthPunk

so im switching gears.

Grack now that I explained my Oates read can you please explain your inexplicable gob read.

There's not much behind it beyond what I've said. He seems to just throw out scum reads on people without any concern at all for how his posts may look in the thread.

He may be just giggling in the scum chat like Vivax for all I know. I've just never seen anyone play scum like this before.

So how do we test his thinking at all? Can he just do whatever and face no consequences for it?

Eh actually you're probably right. He should be pressured a lot more. These posts read like one of my attempts at bussing a teammate from 12 years ago. The trust me guys, I know dann just reads so heavily as "I'm on a team with dann and I will be vindicated."

Dannfloor is the mafia btw. I'm pretty sure. I'm not really feeling up to casing him rn.... because idk, i started doordashing to make extra money tbh. Taking up my time and enrgy.

I'm going to go over everything one more time before EoD though.

VOTE: Dannfloor

Ninja, Oatmasters. Hop on this to pressure Dann. Trust me on this one, i know dann.

I legit cannot remember why I thought dannfloor was scummy... I had a good reason why he was the right vote at work but i forgot it.

VOTE: DarthPunk

so im switching gears.

So why did I have to push you into that position grack? cause it has been clear to me that I have been right this whole time.

One of my first posts was that he wouldn't be mafia from his thread entrance. I haven't been paying close attention to him and you directed my attention towards him.

Grack now that I explained my Oates read can you please explain your inexplicable gob read.

There's not much behind it beyond what I've said. He seems to just throw out scum reads on people without any concern at all for how his posts may look in the thread.

He may be just giggling in the scum chat like Vivax for all I know. I've just never seen anyone play scum like this before.

So how do we test his thinking at all? Can he just do whatever and face no consequences for it?

Eh actually you're probably right. He should be pressured a lot more. These posts read like one of my attempts at bussing a teammate from 12 years ago. The trust me guys, I know dann just reads so heavily as "I'm on a team with dann and I will be vindicated."

Dannfloor is the mafia btw. I'm pretty sure. I'm not really feeling up to casing him rn.... because idk, i started doordashing to make extra money tbh. Taking up my time and enrgy.

I'm going to go over everything one more time before EoD though.

VOTE: Dannfloor

Ninja, Oatmasters. Hop on this to pressure Dann. Trust me on this one, i know dann.

I legit cannot remember why I thought dannfloor was scummy... I had a good reason why he was the right vote at work but i forgot it.

VOTE: DarthPunk

so im switching gears.

So why did I have to push you into that position grack? cause it has been clear to me that I have been right this whole time.

One of my first posts was that he wouldn't be mafia from his thread entrance. I haven't been paying close attention to him and you directed my attention towards him.

I know you said that, but honestly almost every post he makes is jarring in how ??? it is.

I wrote him off too quickly because his style is so different.

I'm on board with VOTE: gob. If he knows Dann as well as he says he does then he should be able to remember why he was scum reading him.

It makes me feel like Darth is more likely town and Grack more likely scum. The pressure from Darth is good, and probably doesn't come from someone partnered with Gob. Grack's reaction to yield on his read while trying to tie Gob to Dann seems quite forced and uncomfortable, as though he wants to be seen to be he's pushing Gob himself for something and not just meekly wilting under Darth's questioning on the issue.

[Vivax]

Why is Naerys town to you Vivax?

The tone mostly+the jk thing.
And she isn‘t trying to murder me that‘s a bonus.

I don't really see why that lead you to banish the idea of her being mafia from reading her ISO.

Her tone has been the same throughout the whole game.

Okay lets pretend you are right. Why should we yeet her?
I don‘t understand this reverse approach of having me explain why we shouldn‘t.

There‘s that post about gob posting gems while she was scumreading him and also the complaining about long posts. Idk.

UNVOTE:

At most, she feels more aggressive this phase.
She thought I hammered you and decided it was scummy even if you flipped scum. That‘s probably a site culture thing.

She doesn‘t expand on her former thought that Luca at this point has to be mafia.

[SuperfluousNinja]

@Vivax

Why did you try to murder me yesterday?

Fire support for OoO . Same way we attempted to go after Luca D1.
But also cause the way you acted surprised about Dunn getting wagoned as if he was so obviously town made me go scumscum on you.

Do link a scum game of yours please. I'm curious if you're as hyperactive in such a case.

More specifically, why weren't you concerned that mafia would kill you for repeating what OOO said about me? Think about it: if you were town, you just made a crystal clear suspicion against a person. You bolded this text that said "most obvious scum in the game" or some such. And you didn't post any reads on anyone else, so there'd be no need to wonder why you were chosen for the kill.

On top of that, it sure seems to me like people were more suspicious of me yesterday than they were of you. So killing you is an awfully smart move.

Why wouldn't they do this?

[SuperfluousNinja]

To clarify my point a bit, the idea is that mafia can quite obviously kill you to frame me. You emphasize a point that says I'm incredibly scummy, me in particular. Mafia then kills me, then says "yall notice how the guy who brought up OOO's case on Ninja died, and how OOO had a case on Ninja also and he died too? Get ninja" I mean, weren't you concerned that they might do this?

I remind you that you said this after Hu Tao's warning. Did you just not heed their advice? Just not read it?

[Vivax]

I‘m looking for Dannflor‘s N1 check. Was it Grack ?

[SuperfluousNinja]

I just can‘t get much from the Dunnstral elim in terms of information.

Then on what authority can you say something like this to Luca:

I see you writing a lot but not much substance behind it when

you could just look at the wagons

and draw conclusions in a more rational way.

Why are you telling him to "look at the wagons" when you admit there's nothing you can get from the Dunnstral elim? What is Luca supposedly capable of doing that you don't think you yourself can do?

[SuperfluousNinja]

Ok grack is obv mafia lol

UNVOTE: grackaroni


I am too busy to keep up. Happy to sort out the fallout from whatever just happened later

So it's not obvious anymore?

[Vivax]

does anyone have a strong read on grackaroni at all

does anyone have a strong read on grackaroni at all

Not super strong but he's a lean town for me

Why

I just scrolled through his ISO

And idk there is nothing *scummy* exactly but nothing that makes me want to town read him

*twirls*

everything is absurd

kinda town reading grack's posting today

Either he checked Grack or he got jailkept I think.
Dunno, it's too ambiguous.

@ Ninja

I was looking at the live wagons during D2, not the Dunn wagon. One had scum in them and the other is just a consensus scumread who flipped town.

[SuperfluousNinja]

HEAR MY CLAIM.

If that is really your claim, this gon be a real short day.

intent to hammer

Let's not rush this. Remember, you're probably going to be the night-kill and won't be able to influence the game further, so it's important we carefully consider everything now.

My son had an accident at school, so I'm not going to be on the the rest of the day. Hopefully review everything Tomorrow.

Oh no!! I'm sorry give your son a hug for me.

Also I'm not

entirely

sure I will be the night kill, especially if I bungle things today. I'm a good one to keep around if I keep on fucking up. I have nightmares about mafia games where I have gotten outplayed by crafty people, where I made it to the final day and I blew it. Those sorts of things haunt me for years and it's probably why I keep playing, just so I can erase the memory of that. Hopefully I can just secure the right kill today and THEN that will prove once and for all that I'm the best night kill.